The Interview movie release canceled by theaters after hacker threats

[JirinPanthosa]

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This is America. You can make any terrible movie you want!

I may think your movie is shit, but I will defend to the death your right to show it!

 

[ALF]

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This is totally weird and sets a terrible precedent. Is this going to be the future landscape of entertainment? Who would want to be involved in this business where any dumbass can make an anonymous threat online and shut down something as major as release as this? Weapons-grade assfuckery of the highest quality. The theatres/studios were wrong to cave in the name of safety, think of the kids, etc. I don't see the feasibility of ramming two airliners into each theatre that showed the film.... really if anyone thought about it for 15 seconds they would come to the same conclusion.

By the way, I call total bullshit on Sony's prediction that they will never release it. Pfft. It may be their final golden goose. Maybe it's the best fucking movie ever made? Maybe it's this generation's Citizen Kane? [Laugh track] I read an article yesterday praising Randall Park and Diana Bang's performances and argued that the film was worth enduring for those two. It changed my mind about seeing it, for sure. It will be interesting for all that screened the film, the reviewers and winners of advance screening tix and such.

Put it online. There's no way North Korea can trace who is watching/streaming/downloading it with a country full of computers running Windows Millennium Edition, and then a great deal of that much-coveted freedom can be defended.

 

[Davros]

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For a movie with a cancelled release, I'm still seeing a lot of ads for it.

 

[ALF]

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For a movie with a cancelled release, I'm still seeing a lot of ads for it.

I think it was canceled, like, three hours ago or so. James Franco and Seth Rogen probably doesn't even know about it yet. I'd love to see the looks on their faces when they climb out from under the green clouds they're hiding under! They'll be all like . . .

 

[HIjol]

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This is America. You can make any terrible movie you want!

I may think your movie is shit, but I will defend to the death your right to show it!

One if by land, two if by sea, three if by Internet...

"Allamaraine, count to four,
Allamaraine, then three more,
Allamaraine, if you can see,
Allamaraine, you'll come with me..."

Except this is no game. Like other posters have asked, "Where does it end?"

And if it is some Punk-ass Piss-ant would-be dictator doing this, and the Little F*ck wants to Dance, then Let's F*cking Dance.
Becuase this stopped being about a movie about .02 FS after Sony No Baloney decided to ween out. Putin and the rest of those c*cks*ckers must be really having a laugh.

Somebody PLEASE teach me how to post the clip of Picard yelling,

"The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!!!"

F*CK.

 

[Dr. Funkenstein]

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I, too, think it sets a horrible precedent.

But, to be fair, it does put Sony in a pickle. If they did have the balls to ignore it, as they should have, and by some miracle one of their showings resulted in some kind of attack, everyone would be lambasting them for not having pulled the movie.

They really couldn't win in this scenario. They're fucked either way, though honestly, they had a significantly less chance of being fucked if they manned up rather than suffer through this guaranteed shitstorm of PR.

 

[B.J.]

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Probably the best response to Sony cancelling showings of The Interview comes from Alamo Draft House, as they will show Team America: World Police instead.

Unfortunately, Paramount has told theaters that they can't screen the movie.

 

[Starbreaker]

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We just got bullied by a bunch of Korean neckbeards.

 

[Relayer1]

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We just got bullied by a bunch of Korean neckbeards.

No, you got pressured by a bunch of Korean neckbeards.

You got bullied and owned by the out of control litigation culture you have. Had the slightest thing happened, real or imagined, as result of releasing the movie, American lawyers would have gleefully sued the studio out of existence.

Anyway, why the 'we' ? Aren't Sony a Japanese company ?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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You got bullied and owned by the out of control litigation culture you have. Had the slightest thing happened, real or imagined, as result of releasing the movie, American lawyers would have gleefully sued the studio out of existence.

The "out of control litigation culture" in the US is a myth perpetuated by corporations to drum up support for passing stringent tort reform laws that limit consumer/patient/victim/employee rights to sue while granting the corporations even greater protections from lawsuits and drastically limiting awards. Frivolous lawsuits can be brought, but they are overwhelmingly dismissed before they progress very far, often at great cost to the plaintiff (and no, the McDonald's coffee lady was not a frivolous lawsuit despite that frequently getting tossed around as the worst example).

I don't know why people assist in perpetuating this myth in the age of Citizens United, Wall Street and banks getting away with murder, and corporations writing legislation for politicians they control to gain even more power and protections. Corporations can easily outspend, outlast, and out-lawyer legitimate suits from citizens. Are you honestly under the impression that multi-billion dollar corporations are seriously in danger of going out of business because of a single lawsuit? Corporations are not victims of predatory consumers.

https://www.justice.org/what-we-do/promote-accountability-safety/debunking-myths

http://www.jerebeasleyreport.com/20...ut-out-by-the-tort-reformers-must-be-exposed/

http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp

https://books.google.com/books?id=cIOoqyoQrx4C&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=myth+litigation+is+out+of+control+in+the+us&source=bl&ots=ieUpWbiskY&sig=hsbOcFKV43sVZ5KKPrlQvU0hoBI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=knKTVIKLGoTYoATkkIKgCQ&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=myth%20litigation%20is%20out%20of%20control%20in%20the%20us&f=false

 

[JirinPanthosa]

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In Poland, right before World War II, they censored plays that portrayed Hitler in a negative light.

You know, because they were worried what might happen if they upset Hitler.

Because as we know, murderous dictators always back down from threats of violence after you appease them.

 

[E-DUB]

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To paraphrase Mitt Romney: "Corporations are pussies, my friend."

 

[JirinPanthosa]

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Wait, wait, let me try something.

Sony, send me a free PS4, or I'll...stop being your best friend!

 

[Trekker4747]

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You got bullied and owned by the out of control litigation culture you have. Had the slightest thing happened, real or imagined, as result of releasing the movie, American lawyers would have gleefully sued the studio out of existence.

The "out of control litigation culture" in the US is a myth perpetuated by corporations to drum up support for passing stringent tort reform laws that limit consumer/patient/victim/employee rights to sue while granting the corporations even greater protections from lawsuits and drastically limiting awards. Frivolous lawsuits can be brought, but they are overwhelmingly dismissed before they progress very far, often at great cost to the plaintiff (and no, the McDonald's coffee lady was not a frivolous lawsuit despite that frequently getting tossed around as the worst example).

I don't know why people assist in perpetuating this myth in the age of Citizens United, Wall Street and banks getting away with murder, and corporations writing legislation for politicians they control to gain even more power and protections. Corporations can easily outspend, outlast, and out-lawyer legitimate suits from citizens. Are you honestly under the impression that multi-billion dollar corporations are seriously in danger of going out of business because of a single lawsuit? Corporations are not victims of predatory consumers.

All true, still, you know that if the movie were released as planned and if something had happened, you know people would sue Sony, the theater, or whomever they could.

Which would have been a hassle and cost, however small to the company, that they probably just rather not deal with.

Kudos, for pointing out the Hot Coffee lady was a for reals, legit, lawsuit.

 

[MacLeod]

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And in the aforementioned lawsuit wasn't the plantive found to be partially at fault?

As to it being a frivilous lawsuit or not, perhaps it wasn't. But had the incident say happened in a different country would it have gone to court?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Re: The Interview movie release canceled by theaters after hacker thre

You got bullied and owned by the out of control litigation culture you have. Had the slightest thing happened, real or imagined, as result of releasing the movie, American lawyers would have gleefully sued the studio out of existence.

The "out of control litigation culture" in the US is a myth perpetuated by corporations to drum up support for passing stringent tort reform laws that limit consumer/patient/victim/employee rights to sue while granting the corporations even greater protections from lawsuits and drastically limiting awards. Frivolous lawsuits can be brought, but they are overwhelmingly dismissed before they progress very far, often at great cost to the plaintiff (and no, the McDonald's coffee lady was not a frivolous lawsuit despite that frequently getting tossed around as the worst example).

I don't know why people assist in perpetuating this myth in the age of Citizens United, Wall Street and banks getting away with murder, and corporations writing legislation for politicians they control to gain even more power and protections. Corporations can easily outspend, outlast, and out-lawyer legitimate suits from citizens. Are you honestly under the impression that multi-billion dollar corporations are seriously in danger of going out of business because of a single lawsuit? Corporations are not victims of predatory consumers.

https://www.justice.org/what-we-do/promote-accountability-safety/debunking-myths

http://www.jerebeasleyreport.com/20...ut-out-by-the-tort-reformers-must-be-exposed/

http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp

https://books.google.com/books?id=cIOoqyoQrx4C&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=myth+litigation+is+out+of+control+in+the+us&source=bl&ots=ieUpWbiskY&sig=hsbOcFKV43sVZ5KKPrlQvU0hoBI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=knKTVIKLGoTYoATkkIKgCQ&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=myth%20litigation%20is%20out%20of%20control%20in%20the%20us&f=false

While I'd generally agree with you, in this case you're wrong and the person you quoted is right.

The major theater chains in the US all pulled the film from their schedules because, with outstanding threats against pretty much everyone associated with it, they face tremendous legal liability should anything actually happen. I think the chances of a terrorist attack actually happening at a showing are vanishingly small, however I don't run AMC and so forth and I can understand not being willing to stake the entire company on a gut feeling. Corporations aren't crusaders for freedom, after all. As another wrinkle, insurance policies (such as those theaters would have) generally don't cover terrorist attacks, leaving the companies themselves fully exposed for any damages and resulting lawsuits.

I'm less clear on why Sony wouldn't just let the theaters show it that want to, but maybe they're worried about liability, as well. As I understand it, Guardians of Peace also claim to have more information that they haven't yet leaked, and threatened to release it if Sony goes forward with showing the film. That may be behind Sony's decision to shelve the film entirely.

So, all the way around, it's corporations being gutless and protecting themselves. Not that I am totally against companies protecting themselves from liability, but it'd be kind of nice to just see them give NK the finger.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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^ I wasn't talking about the Sony situation specifically (except partially in the section where I said a multi-billion dollar corporation wouldn't cease to exist because of a lawsuit), just the assertion that there's an out of control litigation culture in this country in general, which is a damaging myth corporations love to promote because it provides justification for sweeping and misleading tort reform legislation and the continued whittling away of consumer rights and safeguards.

I've no doubt that they and the theater chains pulled the film in large part for fear of an incident and subsequent lawsuit, but that doesn't mean it's part of some trend of poor downtrodden big business being victimized by predatory citizens looking to cash in on their misery.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

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And in the aforementioned lawsuit wasn't the plantive found to be partially at fault?

Yes. 20% her responsibility, 80% McDonald's. That doesn't make the case frivolous. She suffered third degree burns requiring skin grafts and was permanently disfigured. Yet all she had originally asked for in a settlement was $20,000 for the cost of her past and upcoming medical expenses and lost wages while she was temporarily disabled, and McDonald's chose to be assholes about it and only offered her $800, then refused to send their lawyers to any additional settlement meetings. She wasn't looking to screw McDonald's out of millions, they did that by repeatedly being callous and dismissive of her reasonable claims.

As to it being a frivilous lawsuit or not, perhaps it wasn't. But had the incident say happened in a different country would it have gone to court?

An almost identical (but class action) case went to court in the UK.

http://www.mondaq.com/x/18973/Consu...Bogle+Others+v+McDonalds+Restaurants+Ltd+2002

It failed, but that doesn't mean anything about the larger issue because the same case could fail here too in a different court. Also, take note of the last paragraph where it says there had been other similar successful claims in the UK under the Consumer Protection Act 1987 to dispel the notion that this kind of thing is virtually unheard of there.

I don't want to take the thread further on a tangent from the Sony issue (and there's plenty of info out there to read or watch about this case), but I hate the idea of this woman constantly being demonized for her very reasonable settlement request being escalated as a result of McDonald's own dickishness.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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I never thought I'd use this phrase, but: I gotta quote George Clooney on this. Linky

 

[Magellan]

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I was actually going to see this movie just as a screw you to North Korean censorship. It's sad Well if Sony doesn't want the movie why not sell it to somebody else who could release it? I've got a couple bucks in my wallet......