The IDW Nu Trek missions so far...

[F. King Daniel]

It also wouldn't fix Kirk and McCoy boarding a shuttle with large nacelles underneath, and arriving on the Enterprise in a shuttle with small nacelles on top.

...unless they encountered a quantum fissure en route, of course!

 

[nightwind1]

I for one don't understand how Kirk and crew could be encounter these same situations in 2258, when these things happened before in 2266/2267. Why is the plague that Enterprise responded to in Galileo 7 happening almost a decade earlier? Why is Deneva under attack from the mysterious parasites 10 years earlier? It doesn't make logical sense to me, and the writers don't offer any logical explanation in the comics, as far as I see... it really draws me out of the story, because it doesn't make sense. Also, why would Mitchell have been friends with Kirk back in the Academy... his history wouldn't have been changed by the Nero incident in 2233, so wouldn't he have already graduated the academy by the time nuKirk entered, in 2255?

Because, in TOS, no dates were ever given for when those episodes took place?

 

[Christopher]

Because, in TOS, no dates were ever given for when those episodes took place?

That doesn't matter. It was stated outright in "The Deadly Years" that Kirk was 34 years old at the time, so we know that TOS happens when Kirk is in his early 30s. But the dates given in ST2009 make it clear that Kirk is 25 during the main events of the film. And we know that he was born in the same year in both timelines, because the divergence only happened when Nero arrived just before Jim's birth. At most, Abramsverse Kirk was born a week or two prematurely due to the stress of the attack, while Kirk Prime was born in Iowa once the Kelvin got back to Earth.

So given that the events in the comics are only a few months after the movie, that means they are happening nearly a decade before "The Deadly Years," and thus probably a good number of years earlier than they happened in the Prime timeline -- unless you choose to believe that there's an unchronicled 9-year gap between the first and second seasons of TOS. (Which would pretty badly screw up the dates in "The Menagerie.")

 

[vegaslover62]

See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. People take a beloved adventure we've seen hundreds of times before, alter it slightly, then sell it to us like it's something completely new. This is exactly what I fear NuTrek is turning into, and that all-new, original adventures and characters are going to go the way of the dodo.

 

[JD]

Well, the next arc is their first original story, so I don't see where you're fear comes from. And they've been pretty open from the beginning that they're adapting stories, so I don't see them trying to sell something new.

 

[Therin of Andor]

This is exactly what I fear NuTrek is turning into, and that all-new, original adventures and characters are going to go the way of the dodo.

In order not to have the comics' storylines interfere in the new canonical adventures being chronicled onscreen, Bad Robot requested that IDW, for the most part, remake TOS episodes. However the next two-parter is an all-new adventure. There have also been three all-new YA novels from Simon Spotlight.

 

[DimesDan]

This is exactly what I fear NuTrek is turning into, and that all-new, original adventures and characters are going to go the way of the dodo.

In order not to have the comics' storylines interfere in the new canonical adventures being chronicled onscreen, Bad Robot requested that IDW, for the most part, remake TOS episodes. However the next two-parter is an all-new adventure. There have also been three all-new YA novels from Simon Spotlight.

Are we sure about this or is it just speculating as what you're saying is coming across very authoritative on the subject.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Are we sure about this or is it just speculating as what you're saying is coming across very authoritative on the subject.

IIRC, there were press releases explaining all this when "Star Trek Ongoing" was announced. Sorry I didn't memorize the URLs for you. Ah, these might help. I guess my posts are as speculative as you usually believe. Hence my usual sig, which should cover it. I don't work for Pocket, IDW, CBS or Bad Robot, so my posts are always speculative.

http://www.digitalspy.com.au/comics/news/a325591/star-trek-ongoing-series-announced-by-idw.html?rss

http://trekmovie.com/2011/09/30/orci-star-trek-sequel-scouting-underway-comics-to-foreshadow-sequel/

http://www.idwpublishing.com/news/article/1973/

We can also perhaps extrapolate from this quote:

"With last summer’s blockbuster STAR TREK movie, JJ Abrams created a new vibrant, layered version of the Star Trek universe. After careful consideration, we (Pocket Books) decided to hold off on telling new stories while JJ and his team continue to develop his vision."

http://trekmovie.com/2010/01/14/poc...vie-tie-ins-4-novels-pulled-from-summer-2010/

 

[Christopher]

Partly what Therin's saying is just common sense and can be extrapolated by anyone who has experience with how media tie-ins in general tend to work. As a rule, tie-ins are supposed to stay out of the canon's way, so they often end up having a different focus and emphasis than the core work, one that doesn't advance the core narrative the same way the canonical productions get to do. For instance, Marvel's Star Wars comic in the '70s and '80s, released while the original film trilogy was still in production, was required to avoid doing stories that directly confronted the core conflict between Rebellion and Empire or between Luke and Vader, or otherwise to advance any of the major plot points that the movies reserved for themselves; so they mostly told side stories about original characters and species.

So really, it's just not reasonable to look at a tie-in comic and expect it to be representative of the style and focus of the film canon it's based on. They're two separate things with separate creative teams (aside from Orci's supervisory role on the tie-ins) and separate storytelling goals. The goal of the Abrams Trek films is to define and advance the major events in the new continuity; the goal of the tie-in comics is to avoid doing the same.

 

[BritishSeaPower]

My understanding is that Bad Robot has a heavy hand in the nuTrek tie-ins as well, which prompted a lot of the schedule changes/snafus for the Starfleet Aacademy books. (The Edge being the first book, but coming out second. The third book being 4 months after the other 2, the 4th book being pushed back 10 months!) Since we only have one major data point to base the new universe off of, it's not a bad idea to have tighter control so that ideas from the movies aren't done in another form before the movie comes out. I've been enjoying the retellings for the most part, though they seem a bit too compressed in just two issues. Granted, they've been told before so it's not a huge problem, but the pace was off in "Where No Man..." for me and I didn't like cutting Dehner from the story.

 

[Pauln6]

I've been enjoying the retellings for the most part, though they seem a bit too compressed in just two issues. Granted, they've been told before so it's not a huge problem, but the pace was off in "Where No Man..." for me and I didn't like cutting Dehner from the story.

This is precisely how I feel but I also understand why they kept the stories to 2 issues only. Firstly, they wanted to build some momentum and 3 part stories would require a greater investment for casual readers. Secondly, as you say, these stories have been seen before, so fans can read a lot between the lines. This has to balanced against the naysayers who berate them for re-hashing old stories.

With 2-part stories they get to tell 5 rehashes and one original story in their first year, with possibly a similar number in the second year, perhaps with an original story acting as a direct prequel to the new movie. Or they can gradually increase the number of original stories as time progresses, eventually reversing the ratio so that we view the re-hashes as special treats in among the original content.

For my part I'd like to see the stories lead into each other a bit more, with recurring guest stars cropping up where relevant to the story, whether they were in the original episode or not. Thus I approve of Yeoman Rand being re-introduced into the Gallileo 7 but I disapprove of Dehner being written out and not replaced by Noel, who could easily have filled that mental health role. More generally, I think they should put more effort to introduce more women, more aliens, and more alien women in the crew. I won't shed too many tears if the Butterfly Effect leads to some of the bland, minor characters being replaced to even up the sexes and make the crew more diverse. Thus far, this does not seem to be something that has occurred to the writers or artists.