The idea of T'Pol being half-Romulan...

[KendraW]

Romulans are different to vulcans, the were once the same but now quite different, in TNG you have that klingon/romulan/transfusion episode thing that tells us that.

As much as i love ent, if they were going to make my fav character, t'pol, half romulan i would have stopped watching. Her appeal is that she's Vulcan and going through alot of stuff. I mean i can see how a half romulan story thing would be fun, (not for me) but i just don't want it involved with t'pol.

I can't even read fan fic about it, it just turns me right off.

I want to hear about humans and vulcans, i couldn't care less about romulans.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

After watching 'Carbon Creek'....I found that they don't necessarily give 'upswept' eyebrows to all Vulcans....

As we know, Romulans don't have the upswept eyebrows, only the ears and the green-blood.

Unless Treklit does something with it, I guess it'll be left up to fan speculation....

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

As much as i love ent, if they were going to make my fav character, t'pol, half romulan i would have stopped watching. Her appeal is that she's Vulcan and going through alot of stuff.

Yes her appeal is that she is a very flawed Vulcan.. and giving her a possibly biological excuse for this by making her half Romulan would make her a lot less interesting.

 

[pookha]

i also have issues with tpol's father being romulan due to all the deep scans ,tests ect pholx would have had to do dealing with all the things that happened to tpol.
there are biological differences between vulcans and romulans.

There shouldn't be, though. The whole point was supposed to be that Vulcans and Romulans were one and the same, with only ideology separating them. I don't understand why TPTB decided to make the Romulans so biologically distinct from the Vulcans.

all the way back to enterprise incident we find out that yes there were some biological differences.

as to why keep the connection quiet ...
for political and other reasons.
it is very possible things were very fragile after the romulan war.
and the way to ensure vulcan coming into the federation was to keep this quiet. both to partial prevent a civil war on vulcan and to keep the other allies from not trusting the vulcans.

i just dont see how no romulan body was ever seen.
when ship is attacked bodies are often lost into space.

i could even see a special directive sent out the bodies were believed to be booby trapped and only special units would be allowed to handle them.

and even if they did this to tpol it still wouldnt help explain all the other vulcans who didnt fit some type of narrow norm .

ps..
just had a thought.
since sarek knew the execution thing it is possible he himself had been ex vulcan intelligence.
what if he knew of the secret and another reason he didnt want spock in starfleet was in case he would come across this.

 

[Bones2]

Maybe this is where the idea of the Remans can come in handy. They may have been used a soldiers for many of the engagements. So it's known that the Romulans are the ones who control things, but no one knows what they look like, only the Remans.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Both the Remans and Betazoids are something I'd advise ENT use. Both because of their established telepathic ability... neatly getting around a treaty negotiated by subspace radio, where neither side actually physically met to end the war. I'm surprised the tele-presence aspect of their warfare doesn't already use Remans, in the absence of having a large supply of Aenar.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Just to add some thoughts:

I can kinda get both sides; however, I think it would have been cool to get more into T'Pol's issues rather than having it thrown on the audience.

I'm recalling Trek 2009 where we have Spock fighting to live amongst Vulcans who know of his half-human heritage...and the fact that they don't seem to respect Sarek because he married a human.

Even if the half-Romulan aspect wasn't there, I think we needed more to satisfy the question of why--as a full-blooded Vulcan--was she acting this way?

I can understand the Romulan aspect may be an easy cop-out to some people, but that means the writers had to do their homework a bit more...

To go back to Trek 2009, Sarek and Spock are having a conversation on the ENT, I believe...and there is a question of why Sarek married Amanda in the first place...

...Sarek tells Spock something to the effect, 'Because I loved her...'

We accept it because Sarek obviously a man who lives life...logically...and according to his own terms; this is something he relates to his son, and--if I remember correctly--advice as Spock pursues a relationship with a human...i.e. the hot-looking Uhura...

*Now, what was I saying? I kinda got side-tracked for a moment*

Oh, yes...

Maybe we'll have something in a novel or some-such (is that a term or a figure of speech?) where we have some idea of why T'Pol changed from her 'by the book' Vulcan ways to a Vulcan with 'issues.'

Spock Prime even changed from the series to the movies...and later Trek incarnations; this was due to him being around humans, dealing with certain situations where the idea of using 'gut-feelings' rather than logical is more practical...

I'm disgressing a bit, but I think you get the picture...

 

[USS Triumphant]

I'm a big fan of Spock's World and The Romulan Way, and so I would put forward the following explanation for Romulan forehead ridges AND the reason why Worf was the only available donor for a Romulan:

S'task's followers went through considerable effort on the long journey between Vulcan and the twin homeworlds of the Romulan Empire to differentiate themselves from the people they were leaving behind, going so far as to devolve and re-evolve their very language, religion, and culture. I would speculate that this process of reinventing themselves never entirely stopped. One such adaptation, performed to allow colonization of the dark side of ch'Havran (Remus), may have resulted in the Remans. Another, attempted to imbue Romulans with certain of the superior Klingon physical traits, may have been performed between TOS and TNG and resulted in the forehead ridges - and maybe other changes we don't know about. Like propagation of Klingon blood types or at least Klingon blood elements in the Romulan people.

Alternate theory: The Romulans screwed themselves up with a retrovirus some of their scientists developed to try to fully cure the Klingons afflicted with the Augment virus - also resulting in Romulans with forehead ridges and Klingon blood types.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

^^
Interesting theories...

Btw, I've wanted to read The Romulan Way for the longest, but I'm always putting it aside for other novels....[It's definitely on my list of 'to read' books]...