The Husnock ship

[Vanyel]

I know it was never established, but do you think the she the Enterprise encountered in The Survivors was a recreation of the Husnock ship or was it a ship that Uxbridge came up with and used against both the Enterprise and Husnock?

I get the feeling it was not a Husnock ship, but one of Uxbridge's creation. I have no real proof, but I do offer as proof the line he gave to Picard about using the same tactic he used against the Husnock as he did against the Enterprise. Pretty slim I know, but still possible.

So do you agree or not? Please explain your reasoning.

 

[Kegek]

I think it was a Husnock ship. He knew what the Husnock ships looked like. Repeating a tactic doesn't mean repeating what the ship looked like.

 

[Finn]

Who are the Husnock?

 

[Kegek]

^
An alien species who attacked the planet Uxbridge lived on, killing his wife. In his rage, he wiped out the entire species.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Why didn't he just recreate the entire species?

Picard never even asked if Uxbridge could do it. I think Jean Luc just hoped to get in on an Husnock homeworld time share scheme or some shit.

"An entire race's resources....ours for the picking!"

 

[Vanyel]

MeanJoePhaser said:
Why didn't he just recreate the entire species?

Picard never even asked if Uxbridge could do it. I think Jean Luc just hoped to get in on an Husnock homeworld time share scheme or some shit.

"An entire race's resources....ours for the picking!"

Well he didn't mention actually destroying anything but the Husnock. So conceivably, their could be seemingly abandoned ships drifting through space just waiting to be found and whole planets, devoid of intelligent life with an infrastructure just waiting for inhabitants.

Edited to add:

That could be a plot line for a new reoccurring race or Federation enemy for a future series that takes place after the return of Voyager.

 

[GalaxyX]

I think the implication was that this Alien had very similar powers to Q, but not as advanced as Q has.

He could destroy entire races, but could not bring them back. He could create a facsimile of his wife, but could not bring the real one back from the dead. All in all it was a very loophole plot worthy episode LOL

 

[-Brett-]

I'd always assumed that the ship was a recreation of the real deal, but I guess the guy could have created it from scratch.

The part I was always curious about was how Picard knew it was the guy that was the god-like alien in disguise rather than the wife.

 

[Vic Sixx]

Speaking about the ship. Picard kept remarking about how gigantic that ship was, but on screen, it didn't look that much bigger. Maybe it was scale or something, certainly not like a borg cube. Like the ship they wound up using didn't match the writer's description.

 

[Angel4576]

Agree with the concensus on this one. Can't see there being much logic in it NOT being a husnock ship. As mentioned above, he may have exaggerated the scale somewhat, but yes, I'd imagine it WAS a Husnock ship.

 

[Vanyel]

If it was the Husnock ship; I wonder what ship he used against the Husnock?

 

[SmoothieX]

That could be a plot line for a new reoccurring race or Federation enemy for a future series that takes place after the return of Voyager.

How? They were all wiped out.

 

[Kegek]

^
But they left their stuff. Think of it: A whole alien empire, full of junk and tech, completely abandoned.

 

[Vanyel]

SmoothieX said:

That could be a plot line for a new reoccurring race or Federation enemy for a future series that takes place after the return of Voyager.

How? They were all wiped out.

Kegek said:
^
But they left their stuff. Think of it: A whole alien empire, full of junk and tech, completely abandoned.

Precisely.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Yes, I believe it was for the simple fact that he and his "wife" lived in isolation until the Enterprise found them and he had no way of knowing if the Federation knew what a Husnock ship looked like (maybe from records of other species), so he had to maintain the facade.

 

[Vanyel]

Tharpdevenport said:
Yes, I believe it was for the simple fact that he and his "wife" lived in isolation until the Enterprise found them and he had no way of knowing if the Federation knew what a Husnock ship looked like (maybe from records of other species), so he had to maintain the facade.

As I recall neither Uxbridge or anyone else mention the Husnock until the end of the episode when he confesses his crime to Picard.

 

[LeadHead]

I'd say it was a Husnock ship, he had no reason to just invent a type of ship.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Vanyel said:

Tharpdevenport said:
Yes, I believe it was for the simple fact that he and his "wife" lived in isolation until the Enterprise found them and he had no way of knowing if the Federation knew what a Husnock ship looked like (maybe from records of other species), so he had to maintain the facade.

As I recall neither Uxbridge or anyone else mention the Husnock until the end of the episode when he confesses his crime to Picard.

You're talking viewing wise, but plotwise Picard didn't have to know, it was Uxbridge who didn't know Picard didn't know. His power must not extend to mind reading, or esle he'd have know they were still in orbit.

 

[Vanyel]

Tharpdevenport said:

Vanyel said:

Tharpdevenport said:
Yes, I believe it was for the simple fact that he and his "wife" lived in isolation until the Enterprise found them and he had no way of knowing if the Federation knew what a Husnock ship looked like (maybe from records of other species), so he had to maintain the facade.

As I recall neither Uxbridge or anyone else mention the Husnock until the end of the episode when he confesses his crime to Picard.

You're talking viewing wise, but plotwise Picard didn't have to know, it was Uxbridge who didn't know Picard didn't know. His power must not extend to mind reading, or esle he'd have know they were still in orbit.

Uxbridge had to have some sense of others thought or presence. He was able to match the Enterpris's acceleration curve to keep the "Husnock" ship from being caught. He also had to have some sense of what was going on in space or his creation could have killed people on board rather than just collapse the shields.

He is a contradiction. He has enough "sense" to guide his ship to stay just ahead of the Enterprise and to fire with just enough power to hurt the Enterprise without killing anyone. He was also able to sense Deanna's power to sense emotion and block that ability with the music in her head.

As for not knowing Picard didn't know, he could have made a good guess since no one on the away teams mentioned the Husnock, just that a ship attacked them.

 

[Timo]

Uxbridge might have needed to actively look for things in order to see them, even if his vision extended across interstellar ranges. And he'd be plenty distracted/distraught throughout most of the episode.

The part I was always curious about was how Picard knew it was the guy that was the god-like alien in disguise rather than the wife.

Well, Kevin was the one making all the verbal evasions... But granted, ignoring the possibility of Rishon being the culprit may have been male chauvinist thinking on Picard's part.

Timo Saloniemi