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The Hunger Games: Grade, Review, Discuss, Sequel news **SPOILERS**

How would you rate The Hunger Games?

  • A

    Votes: 37 45.1%

  • B

    Votes: 30 36.6%

  • C

    Votes: 10 12.2%

  • D

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • F

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .
Yes, you are right he overheard. In the book he overheard but also questioned Katniss over it so it was more obvious he ended up with more info about it in the book (Katniss told him about singing to Rue as she died and also told him about the flowers).
 
superdeluxe said:
Is it known in the books how the younger ones would have any shot in beating the career tributes? It seems like you are essentially cannon fodder.
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Again without giving too much away, Haymitch eventually explains how he won, he certainly was far from a favourite when he did. However Haymitch was about 15 years old at the time if I remember correctly.
 
superdeluxe said:
Is it known in the books how the younger ones would have any shot in beating the career tributes? It seems like you are essentially cannon fodder.
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The careers are more likely to win than not, but all the districts have won at some point (in 12's case, Haymitch is one of only two winners, and the only one living, some 24 years earlier).

In the second book, each of the twelve districts is able to field both a male and female winner to compete in a "Tournament of Champions", even if in several instances there was only one of a particular gender to choose from.

There's one champion who won because the Gamemakers flooded the whole arena to make things more interesting and she was the only one living at that point who knew how to swim.
 
Kosh Naranek said:
I felt that the games were a bit of a letdown though. I did not feel the urgency watching the film. But, Rue's death was still gutting.
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Yeah I know we're in the minority, but I really think the movie softened things up too much when it came to the violence. It almost felt more like Katniss was being chased by a bunch of schoolyard bullies than by people who were literally out to cut her throat or bash her head in with a rock.

Hell, there were episodes of 24 that were more violent and intense than this. And that was on network TV.
 
Admiral_Young said:
I think they want to start shooting fairly soon (just my guess), Gary Ross has stated he wants to film back in North Carolina again...Jennifer Lawrence is contracted again for "X-Men: First Class 2"...I think I saw "Catching Fire" is slated for a November 2013 release, and they will probably start shooting the First Class sequel sometime next year for a 2014 release. It is possible her schedules may overlap.
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That'll be tough on Jennifer. She said that one movie was tiring enough and acted horrified at the idea of shooting two back to back, never mind adding X-Men to the schedule.
 
I'll agree that the careers in the movie felt more like school bullies than ruthless fighters trained to kill. Clove was the only one I thought really came close to the brutality of her counterpart in the novel. As they were skipping and giggling through the woods I couldn't help but roll my eyes a bit. I've liked Leven Rambin in other things in the past (Glimmer), but I was disappointed with her in the movie.

That said, from another angle, their portrayal was in some ways more chilling than what I had imagined in the books. The impression that especially Marvel and Glimmer gave, of this being a game with obstacles to be disposed of, it just seems like a gross exaggeration of how battle games are viewed today. How many generations are we truly away from considering people disposable in pursuit of our goals? Certainly some of our reality competition crazes promote that mindset to a lesser degree - the ones who win are often the ones who will step on and betray whoever they have to in order to get what they want.

Yes, it is an extreme extrapolation. But that's kind of the point, and certainly what Suzanne Collins was commenting on with her story. There's an interview with her included with one of the audio books (I honestly forget which one) where she talks about what she was trying to say and what she hoped young people would consider as a result of reading her books.
 
Perhaps to some extent, given the different ages between the tributes of different districts, that's how some of them see it. Cato makes remarks just before his death that while he expected to win initially, he knows it's ultimately just a show. And you can hear a bit of regret in his voice, because he says he's never known any other purpose than to be a tribute. To kill opponents or die trying.

I don't know if that sort of thing is reflected in the books or not, given the first person perspective, but from the movie's third person perspective I think it's something that perhaps works better. It makes characters like Katniss and Rue a bit more human. YMMV naturally.
 
@CaptainCanada...Jennifer made $500 K for "The Hunger Games" which while nothing to scoff at, isn't leading lady salary. She was still relatively unknown and just announced as Mystique by Fox when she signed the Hunger Games contract a mere few months later. She made less for First Class. It's possible she could get more for "Catching Fire" or First Class 2 but she's not making huge amounts of money, and as anyone who has worked on a film set knows, it isn't all peaches and cream. It can be tough, intense work just as any other job is.
 
Sakrysta said:
I'll agree that the careers in the movie felt more like school bullies than ruthless fighters trained to kill. Clove was the only one I thought really came close to the brutality of her counterpart in the novel. As they were skipping and giggling through the woods I couldn't help but roll my eyes a bit. I've liked Leven Rambin in other things in the past (Glimmer), but I was disappointed with her in the movie.

That said, from another angle, their portrayal was in some ways more chilling than what I had imagined in the books. The impression that especially Marvel and Glimmer gave, of this being a game with obstacles to be disposed of, it just seems like a gross exaggeration of how battle games are viewed today. How many generations are we truly away from considering people disposable in pursuit of our goals? Certainly some of our reality competition crazes promote that mindset to a lesser degree - the ones who win are often the ones who will step on and betray whoever they have to in order to get what they want.

Yes, it is an extreme extrapolation. But that's kind of the point, and certainly what Suzanne Collins was commenting on with her story. There's an interview with her included with one of the audio books (I honestly forget which one) where she talks about what she was trying to say and what she hoped young people would consider as a result of reading her books.
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Yeah, I found it disturbing just how much they treated it like a game and they were having a blast.
 
DarthPipes said:
Sakrysta said:
I'll agree that the careers in the movie felt more like school bullies than ruthless fighters trained to kill. Clove was the only one I thought really came close to the brutality of her counterpart in the novel. As they were skipping and giggling through the woods I couldn't help but roll my eyes a bit. I've liked Leven Rambin in other things in the past (Glimmer), but I was disappointed with her in the movie.

That said, from another angle, their portrayal was in some ways more chilling than what I had imagined in the books. The impression that especially Marvel and Glimmer gave, of this being a game with obstacles to be disposed of, it just seems like a gross exaggeration of how battle games are viewed today. How many generations are we truly away from considering people disposable in pursuit of our goals? Certainly some of our reality competition crazes promote that mindset to a lesser degree - the ones who win are often the ones who will step on and betray whoever they have to in order to get what they want.

Yes, it is an extreme extrapolation. But that's kind of the point, and certainly what Suzanne Collins was commenting on with her story. There's an interview with her included with one of the audio books (I honestly forget which one) where she talks about what she was trying to say and what she hoped young people would consider as a result of reading her books.
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Yeah, I found it disturbing just how much they treated it like a game and they were having a blast.
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It seemed strange that only the folks from D-12 knew that they were slaves. An interesting story would be the D-1 kids who were raised going in with the certainty that they would be the survivor
 
In the book the people from District 11 knew that they were slaves, in fact they were worse off than District 12.

Which is why I am disappointed with Rue's conversation with Katniss about D11 being left out.
 
When they mentioned the tributes from District 9, I was half expecting a group of insectoid aliens from South Africa to show up.
 
CaptainCanada said:
In other news, a number of racist fans of the book were apparently alarmed to discover that Rue was black.
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Those Twitter folks are horrible. Plus it shows they clearly didn't read the book. Granted I read it two weeks before so descriptions were clearer in my mind but I thought Rue and Thresh were spot on. While Cinna was in up the air, as that article mentions, I thought Kravitz nailed the role with the time he was given. That scene especially before Katniss goes up the tube to the arena floor. Lawrence and Kravitz do a great job of showing support and trepidation. Great scene. I'm digressing from Rue, sorry.

I actually told the friend I saw it with that I wish the movie were sci-fi enough to some how bring Rue back. The actress had that much presence about her.
 
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