Oh, nice catch! I guess I'll have to go watch it again. Damn.
I didn't think of that during that moment but you're right. There's a lovely connection there, even if it's probably unintentional.
Spoilers The Good Place Season 4
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Your post reminds me of an episode of Stargate SG-1 where Daniel, who used to be ascended, explains that the universe is infinite because it is not just exploring physical places, it is the pursuit of knowledge and deeper understanding. And that pursuit of knowledge and understanding is never ending because there are always more questions to ponder. And even if they explore this universe, they could witness the end of this universe in the Big Crunch and maybe the birth of a new universe. They could also explore the multiverse if such a thing existed. Really, there should be no end to the amazing questions they could explore.
Best finale of a show in a long, long time.
Well done.
Loved that wave metaphor Chidi told Eleanor.
Well done.
Loved that wave metaphor Chidi told Eleanor.
I don't think it's about just feeling good all the time. It's about feeling empty on the inside and nothing really matters anymore.
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I think the finale kinda explained it better. It's about feeling that sense of peace and rightness that your existence has reached its natural conclusion because you've accomplished your purpose in life and done everything that gave meaning to your life. We see that with all the characters. Jason accomplished his goals with his dad. Tahani accomplished her entire list that she had (although she chooses to pursue a new purpose rather than ending it). Chidi accomplished all his goals of learning everything about philosophy, reading every book he ever wanted to read, and having a good life with Eleanor and friends. And Eleanor accomplished her true purpose, not just with her life with Chidi but also with convincing the lady in the Medium Place to take the test and finally with helping Michael become human. At that point, she had fulfilled her true life purpose. So she felt at peace with walking through the door.
I know Goodbye, Farewell and Amen is M*A*SH*, Sleeping in Light is Babylon 5, and All Good Things is TNG. I think The End is Buffy? But I don't recognize the others, what are they?
I know before I was talking about them going through the door being a sad ending, but while watching the finale, I realized that that is the happy ending. Being stuck bored for eternity after they had done everything that wanted would have been the sad ending.
The endings each of the characters got was perfect.
My favorite was Micheal becoming a human.
The biggest disappointment was that we didn't get to see Eleanor's reunion with her mother. The fact that they made so many references to her, but never actually showed her makes me wonder if the actress wasn't available.
Jason's big final goal being a perfect game of Madden was perfect.
Eleanor and Chidi's big farewell was pretty emotional.
It really was a perfect ending from the show.
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I loved it, and cried a lot. ♥
Oh, yeah Lost. Nice to know I'm not the only person who actually liked the end of Lost.
"START" is The Americans (the best show no one watched and one of the best of the decade period), "-30-" is The Wire (the perfect title for anyone who knows journalism), "Felina" is Breaking Bad, "Meanwhile" is Futurama (and arguably its best series finale), and "The Book of Nora" is The Leftovers (correction, this is the best show no one watched).
Sounds like you have some excellent shows to start watching now that The Good Place is over.
I said it last season & I'll say it again. William Jackson Harper, more than anyone on the cast, & perhaps anyone in comedy right now, deserves an Emmy for this show. I had never heard of him before this, & yet I don't think they could've done this show without him. His influence is that integral. He creates something, in rather short order, that allows for the rest of the thing to sail on a momentum, that he fuels. I believe his character's authenticity more than any of the others.
He has given the most profoundly ranged, diverse, & nuanced performance, of the bunch. I know Eleanor is the principle lead, & Kristen Bell is pretty much the star of the show, but without having him to play off of, in the very special way he put his performances together, none of this works as well as it did imho
I was really surprised that they actually went to Greece and Paris for the finale. Watching the scenes I thought they looked real, but they've gotten pretty good at faking those kind of locations, so I wasn't sure until they mentioned it on the special after the end of the episode.
I just watched episodes 3-11 today so I wouldn't read spoilers by waiting for the finale.
The beginning on the season was really slow, just felt like it went on for too long. Then when it finally was getting to the end it picked up greatly. The little joke about baby boomers was the best line of the season.
The beginning on the season was really slow, just felt like it went on for too long. Then when it finally was getting to the end it picked up greatly. The little joke about baby boomers was the best line of the season.
Another great nugget from the podcast was that the chair Nick Offerman praised was in real life poorly crafted and he knew he was going to be mocked by all of his woodworking pals for praising it.
Agreed to all of that but I am still annoyed D'Arcy Carden didn't even get a nomination for "Janet(s)."
Yup. I think she was the next biggest breakout talent on the show. She also displays quite a varied & diverse set of comedy skills throughout the run, however more of a broad comedic skillset, like a modern day Carol Burnett. I think this finale was maybe some of the most genuine moments she's had on the show, though there have been others for sure
Harper had all that too, plus more than every other character, takes you on a palpable journey of a character changing. I will give a nod to Manny too, because I was pretty touched by how at the end, in an ironic, but not farcical twist, he's legitimately reached the Zen of the Buddhist Monk he'd initially been impersonating... without actually having to know it. It was a last minute touch that I very much appreciated.
I watched the finale last night. It was perfect in every way.
My only complaint about the season is we spent too much time with the test and the characters they added weren't up to par. If they took 1-2 episodes away from the test and did one more for The Good Place I think it would have been better.
But I can't think of a more better finale recently. More so in comedy.
My only complaint about the season is we spent too much time with the test and the characters they added weren't up to par. If they took 1-2 episodes away from the test and did one more for The Good Place I think it would have been better.
But I can't think of a more better finale recently. More so in comedy.
Just watched the finale last night. After starting the week dealing with the deaths of Kobe Bryant, his daughter, and the others in the heli crash, “Whenever You’re Ready” (title is so simple, straightforward, and beautiful), just messed me up some more.
In the end, I was just like Eleanor, I didn’t want it to end for my sake, despite the show’s need to end.
What I loved was that Whenever took it’s entire time on screen to show us what the characters had learned from their journeys and how it played into their walk into eternity..Too many TV writers don’t take into account how much fans who have invested in a show’s characters, value seeing what happens to them after they’ve won that final battle.
My fav ending might have been Jason’s. I ragged on him earlier in Place’s run for being the only one dimensional character on the show. From the start of season 4 we see he has changed, and it all comes to a head when he becomes the first of the group to realize that his purpose in life had been fulfilled, but in the most “Jason” way possible; by finishing a video game. He remained in character throughout.
i don’t know if there’s ever been a show like this on TV before and not feeling like we’ll ever see it’s like again, especially in terms of quality.
God, I’m going to miss it.
In the end, I was just like Eleanor, I didn’t want it to end for my sake, despite the show’s need to end.
What I loved was that Whenever took it’s entire time on screen to show us what the characters had learned from their journeys and how it played into their walk into eternity..Too many TV writers don’t take into account how much fans who have invested in a show’s characters, value seeing what happens to them after they’ve won that final battle.
My fav ending might have been Jason’s. I ragged on him earlier in Place’s run for being the only one dimensional character on the show. From the start of season 4 we see he has changed, and it all comes to a head when he becomes the first of the group to realize that his purpose in life had been fulfilled, but in the most “Jason” way possible; by finishing a video game. He remained in character throughout.
i don’t know if there’s ever been a show like this on TV before and not feeling like we’ll ever see it’s like again, especially in terms of quality.
God, I’m going to miss it.
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