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The General Knight Rider thread.

I kinda feel like the original K.I.T.T. look is just too iconic; in the same way that Doctor Who has continued to use the old London Police Box shape decades after they ceased to be produced, I think I’d want a new Knight Rider to keep the black Trans Am chassis, outdatedness be damned.
 
I kinda feel like the original K.I.T.T. look is just too iconic; in the same way that Doctor Who has continued to use the old London Police Box shape decades after they ceased to be produced, I think I’d want a new Knight Rider to keep the black Trans Am chassis, outdatedness be damned.
I think it just needs to be a common Black Sports Car, something that you can find on the road.

That's why I didn't mind when KR (2008) chose the Mustang.
 
He's in the beginning of the pilot.
The pilot had a much different, more serious tone, than the rest of the series. I mentioned earlier in the thread that Michael's identity and the concept of a man operating in the shadows could be a major premise of the technology's important to the story. Part of KITTs purpose could be to protect Michael's presence in the stories and his connection with Michael Long who is supposed to be dead.
 
The pilot had a much different, more serious tone, than the rest of the series. I mentioned earlier in the thread that Michael's identity and the concept of a man operating in the shadows could be a major premise of the technology's important to the story. Part of KITTs purpose could be to protect Michael's presence in the stories and his connection with Michael Long who is supposed to be dead.
For me, the show hit ludicrous levels when a bunch of kids fixed up KITT and give it super pursuit mode in the fourth season. The show starts off as more of a buddy cop show between Michael and KITT, and then it turns cartoon like as it progresses. A-Team also had this problem, but I actually liked where the show was going when it was canceled. And some episodes were far more serious than others.

I really need to do a re-watch of Knight Rider once I finish up other series I have started.
 
From the pilot

He was dubbed by David Hasselhoff.

His old identity plays an important role in some episodes

Episode 210: Knightmares

Michael & Kitt are looking for a stolen substance called Alidium. After tracking a suspect to the Bedford dam, Michael is caught in an explosion and loses part of his memory. He wakes up thinking he's still police officer Michael Long.


Then Michael Long's ex lover (Stephanie Mason) appeared in three episodes.

Season 1
Episode 118: White Bird
Season 2
Episode 220: Let it Be Me
Season 4
Episode 411: The Scent of Roses

With these exceptions (and obviously the pilot), his old life is virtually never mentioned. He's never expressed remorse or nostalgia. Keep in mind that the Foundation changed his face and identity without his consent.

When they show him his new face and tell him that Michael Long is dead his reaction in the pilot is like, "Uh, okay.". He doesn't show the slightest concern for his old friends, relatives, or even his lover.

It was a different time.
 
By the way, like every other protagonist of an 80's TV show, he obviously fought in Vietnam. And like them, he wasn't just a grunt who did a tour of duty and came home, but he was a green beret who stayed there for 3 years.
 
I kinda feel like the original K.I.T.T. look is just too iconic; in the same way that Doctor Who has continued to use the old London Police Box shape decades after they ceased to be produced, I think I’d want a new Knight Rider to keep the black Trans Am chassis, outdatedness be damned.

Makes sense to me. After all, plenty of people drive classic cars.


With these exceptions (and obviously the pilot), his old life is virtually never mentioned. He's never expressed remorse or nostalgia. Keep in mind that the Foundation changed his face and identity without his consent.

When they show him his new face and tell him that Michael Long is dead his reaction in the pilot is like, "Uh, okay.". He doesn't show the slightest concern for his old friends, relatives, or even his lover.

It was a different time.

It wasn't about the times. I mean, this was the same era as Hill Street Blues and Lou Grant and Cagney & Lacey and the final seasons of M*A*S*H. There were plenty of shows then, and in earlier decades, that did a lot to explore their characters' personal and emotional lives. But Knight Rider wasn't one of them, because it was one of the dumber, shallower shows of the era. Every era has a spectrum of quality and intelligence in its entertainment, and Knight Rider was toward the bottom of the intelligence spectrum for 1980s TV. It was popular because it aimed for the lowest common denominator.
 
Every era has a spectrum of quality and intelligence in its entertainment, and Knight Rider was toward the bottom of the intelligence spectrum for 1980s TV.
All true, but I can't imagine a modern show considered "dumb" where the protagonist, while unconscious, is falsely declared dead, given a new identity, a new face (which is the same as the son of the person who organized it all) without his consent, and his first reaction upon waking up is "Uh, okay. Now what?" I think the minimum standards for writing have risen a bit in 40 years, at least when it comes to certain tropes.
 
All true, but I can't imagine a modern show considered "dumb" where the protagonist, while unconscious, is falsely declared dead, given a new identity, a new face (which is the same as the son of the person who organized it all) without his consent, and his first reaction upon waking up is "Uh, okay. Now what?" I think the minimum standards for writing have risen a bit in 40 years, at least when it comes to certain tropes.

Hmm, maybe, but I think it's more because home video and streaming have shifted the emphasis more toward the whole rather than the individual parts, so there's a stronger incentive to develop ongoing character arcs. That doesn't necessarily make the worst of them any smarter or better-written than the worst of '80s TV, though. Serialized character writing has its own dumb tropes, like always having the case-of-the-week be coincidentally relevant to whatever the main characters are going through in their personal lives that week, or having characters overreact to every problem to manufacture shocking dramatic twists.
 
I kinda feel like the original K.I.T.T. look is just too iconic; in the same way that Doctor Who has continued to use the old London Police Box shape decades after they ceased to be produced, I think I’d want a new Knight Rider to keep the black Trans Am chassis, outdatedness be damned.

Yeah, there's that. Kind of like how iconic the DeLorean is to BTTF. If Pontiac is revived, there's a good chance they could revive the Trans-Am with a more modern design and be a fitting choice for a new KITT.
 
All true, but I can't imagine a modern show considered "dumb" where the protagonist, while unconscious, is falsely declared dead, given a new identity, a new face (which is the same as the son of the person who organized it all) without his consent, and his first reaction upon waking up is "Uh, okay. Now what?" I think the minimum standards for writing have risen a bit in 40 years, at least when it comes to certain tropes.
I may be misremembering, but I think the premise was that Michael Long was nearly killed and his face was horribly damaged. It wasn't like the Knight Foundation just decided to change his face, but rather that they repaired it and used the face of Michael Knight.
 
I may be misremembering, but I think the premise was that Michael Long was nearly killed and his face was horribly damaged. It wasn't like the Knight Foundation just decided to change his face, but rather that they repaired it and used the face of Michael Knight.
It's the classic "magical" plastic surgery from movies and TV (although I don't recall any recent examples, another trope that's almost extinct after decades).

Yes, his face was damaged. But just as they could have given him a perfect reproduction of Wilton Knight's face as a young man, they could also have given him back his old appearance. And anyway, they did it all while he was unconscious without asking him anything.
 
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