The four-year wait for INTO DARKNESS

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by MakeshiftPython, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. Nyotarules

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    No, only peels of laughter (which happened where I saw the movie)
     
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  2. JonnyQuest037

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    Honestly, I knew that Cumberbatch was going to be Khan as soon as he asked how many torpedoes there were and Kirk answered 72. I knew from doing my TOS timeline that that was the exact number of survivors on the Botany Bay in "Space Seed." I was simultaneously disappointed and angry that they weren't even creative enough to change the damn number. After that, it was just waiting for the inevitable "shocking" reveal. :rolleyes:
     
  3. thribs

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    A reveal that doesn’t work since Kirk has no idea who he is. Might as well say his name is Bob and get the same affect.
     
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  4. M'Sharak

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    To be fair, that's little different from the effect the name had in "Space Seed". It could have been "Bob" there, too, for all the impact it had on Kirk at that moment:

    KIRK: James Kirk, commanding the starship Enterprise.
    KHAN: I see.
    KIRK: And your name?
    KHAN: I have a few questions first. What is your heading?
    KIRK: Our heading is Starbase Twelve, a planet in the Gamma 400 star system. Our command base in this sector. Is that of any use to you?
    KHAN: And my people?
    KIRK: Seventy two of your life-support canisters are still functioning.
    KHAN: You will revive them.
    KIRK: As soon as we reach Starbase Twelve.
    KHAN: I see.
    KIRK: And now
    KHAN: Khan is my name.
    KIRK: Khan. Nothing else?
    KHAN: Khan.
    KIRK: What was the exact date of your lift off? We know it was sometime in the early 1990s, but
    KHAN: I find myself growing fatigued, Doctor. May we continue this questioning at some other time?
    KIRK: The facts I need, Mister Khan, will take very little time. For example, the nature of your expedition.

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  5. fireproof78

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    Worked fine for me :shrug: I didn't expect a shock or anything.
     
  6. Smellmet

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    Let's face it, the khan reveal was for the fans, not for the good of the story.
     
  7. fireproof78

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    If you mean the story would have worked well without it, I tend to agree. However, as presented in the story overall it was not distracting by any means for me.

    But, I know it is a point of contention.
     
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  8. Lance

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    The 4 year wait was unfortunate, but wasn't as damaging as other things. But the 2009 movie certainly had a buzz that needed to be captured fast, and all the um-ing and ah-ing certainly killed the momentum a little.

    Beyond suffered similarly.

    Paramount does not have a great track record promoting Star Trek features to their full potential :lol: