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The Forgotten Enterprise (Pre-1701 - Robert April)

Shouldn't it just have looked like the TOS Enterprise, and the April launch would have come before the timeline rewrite?
 
Although there is a deleted scene from Into Darkness, where Marcus is shown in his office receiving the suicide bombing officer's message. Above him is a huge Original Series style Constitution model with the name U.S.S. Biddeford for some reason. Probably only a temp shot awaiting a more Abramsverse style ship design.
 
^ But why would they have gone to all that trouble creating a TOS-style ship (with a unique name, no less) if they didn't intend to use it? That wasn't just stock footage, it was a brand new shot.

And so, perhaps the forgotten Enterprise really did look like that? Food for thought...well, not particularly good food, more like marshmallow or beef jerky for thought. :lol:

As for April himself, I'm wondering what happened to him in the Kelvin timeline to turn him into a bad guy. The prime April wasn't like that...
 
Although there is a deleted scene from Into Darkness, where Marcus is shown in his office receiving the suicide bombing officer's message. Above him is a huge Original Series style Constitution model with the name U.S.S. Biddeford for some reason. Probably only a temp shot awaiting a more Abramsverse style ship design.

Not necessarily, since there are so many other models of familiar Trek spacecraft in Marcus's office. If the timeline split was only 12 years before the Prime Enterprise was launched, then it's possible that some things remained unchanged enough to allow the Constitution-class design to go forward in that form.
 
We know so little about April in the prime timeline, what if he turned into a bad guy there too? Maybe there is a reason no one talks about him, and Pike / Kirk are the hero ships. Ya never know....
 
Although there is a deleted scene from Into Darkness, where Marcus is shown in his office receiving the suicide bombing officer's message. Above him is a huge Original Series style Constitution model with the name U.S.S. Biddeford for some reason. Probably only a temp shot awaiting a more Abramsverse style ship design.
Well given that ship's low registry, it might have been a Constitution-class built before the NCC-1701 Enterprise and before the timeline split in 2233. The "Constitution-class" NuEnterprise could actually be a sort of refit based on new technology available in the Kelvin timeline post-2233.
 
It's worse than that, it was the TMP refit 1701, but with NCC-1701-D written on the hull. Seriously, I'm not even making that up. There was another issue where the characters were actually slapping their chest insignia for communications, like they were wearing 24th century comm badges.

I will add this to my list of reasons not to bother with Ida Trek.
 
The original plan for the 2009 film was to have the original Enterprise take the place of the Kelvin but Paramount told them not to as they didn't want the ship destroyed.
 
IIRC, it's already been confirmed that due to miscommunication or some sort of mistake somewhere, the artist just drew the regular Kelvin-timeline Enterprise NCC-1701 in that panel not realizing it was supposed to be April's ship. The comics make a lot of art goofs, just notice how often 24th century LCARS computer displays are seen, even on alien ships!
They're not really "goofs" IMO. I think the artists are just rushed for time and not really paying attention to the minutia so they use art designs from literally anywhere they can. So far in the IDW series, I've seen ships from the Alien movies, some obscure Star Wars ships/props and even a few TNG-era shuttlecraft being passed off as either alien ships or civilian Federation designs. It's bee noticeable to me ever since I caught a crude drawing of the Nostromo being passed off as a "Federation transport ship" in the Khan series and it took me 15 seconds worth of googling to find the exact image the drawing was based (traced?) from.

Just saying, the comic series has pretty good story ideas, but the execution of those stories -- plus the artwork -- leave much to be desired.
 
Yeah, but even so, two different ships should not both be NCC-1701. The whole purpose of registry numbers is to be unique. They don't go with the names, they go with the ships (which is why the letter-suffix tradition is ridiculous).

Didn't the replacement Defiant at the end of DS9 use the same registry number as the one that had just got blown up?
 
^ Yeah, after DS9 got ahold of the Sao Paulo they changed its name, and also altered its registry number to the same one the old Defiant had (NX-74205).

(Only reason they changed the number was out-of-universe: so the stock footage of the old Defiant would still be useable.)
 
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Any examples?
I can't remember the issue at the moment, but I did catch them passing off one of the Republic dreadnoughts as an alien ship in a recent issue. I'll come back and point them out if I catch a specific example during a re-read.
 
The original plan for the 2009 film was to have the original Enterprise take the place of the Kelvin but Paramount told them not to as they didn't want the ship destroyed.

I've heard this rumor before but have never seen any evidence that this was the case.
 
They're not really "goofs" IMO. I think the artists are just rushed for time and not really paying attention to the minutia so they use art designs from literally anywhere they can. So far in the IDW series, I've seen ships from the Alien movies, some obscure Star Wars ships/props and even a few TNG-era shuttlecraft being passed off as either alien ships or civilian Federation designs. It's bee noticeable to me ever since I caught a crude drawing of the Nostromo being passed off as a "Federation transport ship" in the Khan series and it took me 15 seconds worth of googling to find the exact image the drawing was based (traced?) from.
There was also the one story where Orion ships were shown, and they were Battlestars with Stargates bolted on top.
I've heard this rumor before but have never seen any evidence that this was the case.
I can't remember what page it was on, but Orci himself confirmed it on Trekmovie once.
 
The original plan for the 2009 film was to have the original Enterprise take the place of the Kelvin but Paramount told them not to as they didn't want the ship destroyed.
I've heard this rumor before but have never seen any evidence that this was the case.
The only place that's been reported outside of this forum is IMDB.
I can't remember what page it was on, but Orci himself confirmed it on Trekmovie once.
I'll need a link on that, it it's true. Besides, even if we entertain the idea that it was true, I don't see why they would still keep Captain April (who the rumour claims the scene would have featured) instead of creating Captain Robau. Hell, they'd still be able to keep Faran Tahir as Captain April.
 
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