Imagine if he'd asked to see the bridge of the A. He'd have to spend ages trying to narrow it down to the right bridge.
The Forgotten Enterprise (Pre-1701 - Robert April)
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How did it know which bridge of the original he wanted - Cage/TOS/Animated/TMP and it picks the TOS one purposefully.
I forgot how many times the old one changed.
Scotty walking into the TAS bridge would have been epic
Don't forget the difference between TMP, TWOK, and TSFS.
Scotty: "No bloody A, B, C, D, or E"
Computer: "Please specify the year for exact configuration preference."
Scotty: "Oh... well... I spent most of my time on the bridge in 2268, but I actually miss the version we had in 2272. So show me that one."
Computer: "Please indicate the exact date and time of year."
Scotty: "Dammit... um... september, maybe? Right after the V'ger mission."
Computer: "Before or after that Tuesday when they moved the science console to the other side of the room?"
Scotty: "Before... no, AFTER! Roomier that way."
Computer: <beeps> "Enter when ready."
That's way more than Kirk's familial circumstances ever got. And really, it shouldn't take even two lines - one should be plenty enough.
There's no requirement placed on canon in that respect - we and the writers can rationalize everything and anything if need be. But what is the point of having Star Trek if everything there is just a dream sequence even in-universe - if nothing ever happens or matters because it will be explained away at the earliest convenience?
Because fiction doesn't evolve through "making room", but through the opposite. You get stories by closing some of the infinite paths, by debunking some of the possibilities, and by slamming the door on some of the might-have-beens.
Sure, a very good story might warrant resurrecting a character (hey, what if Ilia didn't die and just walks out of a sonic shower as if nothing happened?) or contradicting in-universe reality big time. But another Enterprise is a pretty unlikely way to bring something new and interesting to the Star Trek universe - just see how much the show by that name was despised for being the show by that name (and never mind how VOY lost points for being just another Enterprise by another name).
Timo Saloniemi
Once upon a time there was a little girl whose name wasn't Julie, Rachel, Geneveve or Kathy. Her name definitely wasn't anything but Goldilocks. One day while not skipping, not running, not jogging or shuffling languidly through a wooded area that was definitely not a national park or forest preserve but was in fact an actual forest and nothing else, she encountered a wooden cottage that was not more than one story high and had fewer than five windows. It lacked nameplate that might have identified its owner, and it lacked a second chimney, but it had a first chimney through which smoke was not failing to emerge. The girl whose name wasn't anything other than Goldilocks smelled something delicious coming from that house and said to herself "I definitely know I am not supposed to enter that house and I can narrow down my motivation for breaking into that house as being attracted by the smell of the food inside and I know for sure that food is porridge and not anything else so no one should ever need to speculate on why I am now braking into this house with no nameplate so I don't know that it is owned by three bears..."
"Space. The final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five year mission is NOT to host circus performances, bring toys to children, rescue stranded astronauts from traps caused by ancient still-working alien technology, but we still do those things in a pinch, even though they are not our mission. Also, to explore strange new worlds, but not worlds that have no atmosphere or aren't earthlike, or that reside in someone else's territory, or that are ugly or smell funny, or that we've been ordered not to explore, or are not strange enough that we find them boring. To seek out new life and new civilizations, just not Category 4 civilizations because those are really dangerous, and not civilizations that don't like us, or civilizations that time travel because they're scary and weird. Also, to boldly go where no man has gone before, though not ONLY where no man has gone before, and not excluding where man has gone before but lost the records to so we don't know he's gone there before, and also not excluding starbases, vacation planets, cheesy bars on harbor planets and other places where men have definitely gone before but we will not rule out going there because we also sometimes go places where man has gone before."
Yeah, I'm not really buying it.
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Which is not how storytelling works, Timo, hence the reason none of those stories were actually told that way.
Because a story that was told by "Closing some of the infinite paths, by debunking some of the possibilities, and by slamming the door on some of the might-have-beens" would be stupid as hell.
The idea of Captain April having an USS Enterprise of his own within the Kelvin timeline makes quite a bit of sense. I hope it's eventually made canon.
Edit: As far as an Enterprise between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701, it's possible. They could have a non-Federation starship named Enterprise or two or they could figure out a way
to explain one more Federation Enterprise in the gap maybe. The latter option would take some creativity, but isn't impossible.
Edit: As far as an Enterprise between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701, it's possible. They could have a non-Federation starship named Enterprise or two or they could figure out a way
to explain one more Federation Enterprise in the gap maybe. The latter option would take some creativity, but isn't impossible.
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