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Meh?
Are you old enough to remember POP Up video?
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Spoilers The Flash - Season 6
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Pshaw.
Optional alternate audio commentary tracks where "things" are said.
Meh?
Are you old enough to remember POP Up video?
Tattoo the movie with fun facts.
A number of cinematic and TV historical features have this option—Rome and John Adams from HBO, and Gladiator by Ridley Scott are just a few I’ve used in class relatively recently.
Yep I liked Pop Up Video. Back when people were just starting to complain about MTV not playing music videos but they still had them a little bit.
Jason
Flash is a bad show.
It should die.
It should die.
It's not. It's best not to use words one's not clear on the meaning of.
When you work for a company or another organization that has a public image to protect, you are required to follow expectations. A school teacher cannot post racist or hateful attitudes, and could lose their job for posting images of themselves behaving inappropriately (or even if some else posts them). CW has a brand based on tolerance and diversity and the actors are the public face of that brand. Yes they should have vetted their actor a little more closely--maybe they even gave him chance to delete his posts or make a statement. Having seen these situations elsewhere, my guess is that the truth is more complex than we have been told publicly.
I don't think it would bother so much, because people have been fired for this kind of stuff in the past, if censorship and a kind of attack on free speech and the need to silence people hadn't become so prevalent in social media and our culture. It's one thing maybe when you got a company doing something like this but when you got your average person just searching for stuff to destroy people's lives just so they can get some clicks and some attention it really does reflect badly on them more than even the people they ruin
. People have been saying dumb things and making mistakes forever but I couldn't ever imagine when I was a kid feeling the need to basically go get revenge on someone because they might not be the nicest most decent person. Maybe tell them off or give them the middle finger but to go all nuclear and do this stuff or to dox someone. This stuff seems very unethical to me. It's hard to create a decent society if people don't even have any kind of principles or standards for their own behavior.
Jason
The show should end with Barry going to jail for marrying his sister.
No one is freaking attacking free speech.
Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.
If you said some of the shit Hartley did on these forums you’d probably be banned.
Everyone understands their is consequences to freedom of speech but the question is should someone being fired be one? Does the punishment fit the crime even though we understand the business logic of it from CW? Also just how much right should a business have over people's behavior when they aren't on the job? Do people really want their daily lives being judged by their boss? Do people even have to comply with their companies polices even when they aren't punching the clock. Maybe the company has the legal right but it doesn't mean it's ethically right to allow them to have that much influence over people's lives.
Jason
Things work a bit differently when you are in as high profiles position as an actor on a show like The Flash.
When you are in a position like that, you are one of the public faces of that show and every action you take, even when you aren't actually on the set, reflects back on that show. So when you behave inappropriately it makes the show look bad, and the network look bad for having that show on the network, and makes the company that owns the network look bad for owning a network that has a show that hired a person who behaved badly.
When you are in a position like that, you are one of the public faces of that show and every action you take, even when you aren't actually on the set, reflects back on that show. So when you behave inappropriately it makes the show look bad, and the network look bad for having that show on the network, and makes the company that owns the network look bad for owning a network that has a show that hired a person who behaved badly.
JD basically said what I was going to say.
I sort of understand somewhat when it comes to the CW but the fact is if someone hadn't dug and looked hard for these tweets for no other reason than to fuck this guy over for some attention then nobody would have been impacted by 8 year old deleted tweets. To me the company action bothers me less than that of the people who search this stuff out for really no reason at all other than they want clicks and attention. When he gets fired their shitty behavior gets rewarded. Which then creates a atmosphere of trying to censor and silence and control speech of other people on social media. They are not looking for truly unforgivable behavior but really are just bullies. Looking for any excuse to nail people ignoring any context of what people do and say and why they do and say them.
Jason
No, not in this era. I'm half black, and watched Gone With the Wind, read the book, understood its effect in the era in which it was produced, and the very slow drive to move away from characterizations like that of McDaniel's in the film, but I did not hand wring or have some reaction (as in calls for it to be shelved and/or banned) to what I was watching, even though I found it distasteful, as I knew the how and why of the film, how it was not a representation of black people in 1939, nor did I expect a film from that time--and about that subject (key) to be any example of self empowerment for my people.
The only people failing to understand this....or I should some with the biggest public platform are usually those who should not address such issues in the first place (many self-important white liberals), as its rarely from a place of understanding, but one of bandwagon-ing for sociopolitical reasons they do not have to live with, but it makes them feel good anointing themselves the "champions" of others who did not ask for or needed their questionable sense of knighthood. But its a suit they don selectively, since they do hold hypocritical beliefs...
On that note, what's worse is when such characterizations still rear their heads in this allegedly more "enlightened" era of culture & filmmaking, as in the example of the black buffoon Finn in the Star Wars sequels, when Kennedy, et al., knew damn well that of all of the types of character traits they could attribute to him, they made him a scared, sweating ex-janitor with no agency--no behavior that spoke to his unique identity working for an oppressive government. They knew exactly what they were doing. That's far more offensive as a character sold in the 21st century, as there's no excuse for that particular racial legacy to exist / be produced by the most enlightened, progressive people on the face of the earth (or so they continue to say that about themselves).
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I agree with you 100% on this. As a white guy, I knew something rubbed me the wrong way about Finn's character but I couldn't put it into words. I just felt the character was written more poorly than any SW character since AotC C3P0. Thank you for the insightful comments that really helped put into perspective what I've been feeling since TLJ.
What was the lines from Clerks?
"Do you think your average Storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main?"
Finn's entire existence invalidates Kevin Smith's world view.
"Do you think your average Storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main?"
Finn's entire existence invalidates Kevin Smith's world view.
The problem with Finn is the same problem that drags the whole ST down: lack of forethought. JJ is habitually guilty of coming up with good elevator pitches, but not taking the time to develop them into coherent concepts. Most of TFA's half-baked ideas have "well that's the next movie's problem" written all over them. RJ to his credit actually tried to do something interesting and meaningful (though I could still have done without the pointless Casino Planet escapade.)
As a result, they just threw a Stormtrooper deserter in there because it's a cool visual and never been done before, but never bothered to develop a real backstory for Finn or chart an arc for him beyond the first movie. The bit about him having done sanitation duty on SKB was clearly just thrown in as a joke line. I have no clue if they'd always intended for him to be black or if that's just how the casting process shook out (I've honestly never looked into the BTS on this one much) so I can't speak intelligently about what element came first.
I will say though that as someone that grew up around the military, the idea that a soldier was an "ex-janitor" is a bit of a misnomer. Generally speaking, army camps don't have a janitorial staff because that's exactly the kind of thing you make the lower ranks do on a duty roster. Especially in the barracks.
As a result, they just threw a Stormtrooper deserter in there because it's a cool visual and never been done before, but never bothered to develop a real backstory for Finn or chart an arc for him beyond the first movie. The bit about him having done sanitation duty on SKB was clearly just thrown in as a joke line. I have no clue if they'd always intended for him to be black or if that's just how the casting process shook out (I've honestly never looked into the BTS on this one much) so I can't speak intelligently about what element came first.
I will say though that as someone that grew up around the military, the idea that a soldier was an "ex-janitor" is a bit of a misnomer. Generally speaking, army camps don't have a janitorial staff because that's exactly the kind of thing you make the lower ranks do on a duty roster. Especially in the barracks.
Exactly.
We saw him on his first mission as a soldier.
They described his training as being in a vr brainwashing isotank for most of his life since his kidnapping as a 5 year old.
But for health reasons he probably wasn't in the tank 24/7 for 15 years.
Children slave cadets as janitors, while they are too small to fight well.