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Spoilers The Flash - Season 6

Thawne is a lying bastard.

He's telling Nash that Real-Young-Barry is not a deal taking bastard... But Thawne also knows so much better Old Barry from the Distant Future, who has to be a little more callous than this kid version of the Flash.
 
Guy Gardener said:
Thawne is a lying bastard.

He's telling Nash that Real-Young-Barry is not a deal taking bastard... But Thawne also knows so much better Old Barry from the Distant Future, who has to be a little more callous than this kid version of the Flash.
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That looked like Harry Wells to me. I didn’t get Thawn from that scene.
 
Thawne should not be part of the mix.

He's not a cross dimensional twin.

Did Thawn's disguise alter his dna to Wells DNA?

Doh!
 
Kind of a shame to end the season with the heroes failing and the villain winning so completely, but obviously it couldn't be helped. At least it does make a decent cliffhanger, a decisive end of one phase of the story and start of the next.

I wasn't a fan of the design of Carver's panic room. "Not a single mirror" -- but plenty of polished metal objects and large glass-screened monitors. Are you kidding me?

The twist of Eva framing Sue Dearbon for Carver's murder is strange. Why Sue? I mean, obviously it's an excuse to keep Sue involved in the story so she and Ralph can get closer, but that's the writers' reason. What's the character's reason? Why would Eva choose to frame Sue instead of someone else? Why not Ralph,the disreputable PI? Or Barry, who's already been tried for murder once and whom many people might thus be quick to presume guilty? Or Nash, who's a dead ringer for the notorious criminal Harrison Wells? Or Allegra, a former juvenile delinquent from a family of criminals? Come to think of it, this is a pretty disreputable bunch. Sue might be an actual international thief, but her reputation is that of a harmless, flighty heiress, so she's not the most natural choice to pin the crime on. It seems like an arbitrary decision.

No Cisco this week. I guess the bit about him heading to Atlantis last week was to set up another absence. Too bad it works out to him missing the finale.


tomalak301 said:
I wasn't a fan of the Nash telling Barry about the deal though.
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What do you mean? Nash didn't tell Barry about the deal. Carver offered Barry deal, Nash saw Barry hesitate and consider it, and then he confronted Barry about it afterward.

When Harry said the Barry he knew would never consider that deal, I wondered if it meant we'd find that Barry had been replaced by a mirror double. I expected Iris to go to that hospital expecting to find Singh and discover the real Barry there instead. Which would've been a heck of a cliffhanger.


tomalak301 said:
That looked like Harry Wells to me. I didn’t get Thawn from that scene.
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Oh, yes, quite clearly Harry. That's obvious just from the glasses and the gruff attitude, not to mention that Nash actually said the name "Harry" when telling Barry about it later.
 
^I think Carter did something to the walls around the room, not just that door, to the point where he believed the polished metal and shiny things in the room would be inaccessible to Eva.

I'm not trying to think too much about it.
 
Sexual identity standards aside, Eva should be Mirror Mistress, not Mirror Master, becuase it's funnier.

"I don't want to call you mistress."

"I call you Flash Barry, the least you do is call me by my name too."

"MY WIFE IS WATCHING!"
 
Finn said:
^I think Carter did something to the walls around the room, not just that door, to the point where he believed the polished metal and shiny things in the room would be inaccessible to Eva.

I'm not trying to think too much about it.
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I think it's more that the producers and set designers didn't think about it.
 
Christopher said:
tomalak301 said:
Guy Gardener said:
Thawne is a lying bastard.

He's telling Nash that Real-Young-Barry is not a deal taking bastard... But Thawne also knows so much better Old Barry from the Distant Future, who has to be a little more callous than this kid version of the Flash.
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That looked like Harry Wells to me. I didn’t get Thawn from that scene.
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Oh, yes, quite clearly Harry. That's obvious just from the glasses and the gruff attitude, not to mention that Nash actually said the name "Harry" when telling Barry about it later.
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Thawne being purged from Nash five episodes back is also a major indicator that it's Harry and not Thawne pretending to be Harry.


Guy Gardener said:
Did Thawn's disguise alter his dna to Wells DNA?!
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I think it did alter his DNA to Wells's. If I remember right, as Wells, he wasn't a match for his own blood he left behind when he killed Barry's mother. He got Wells's memories too didn't he? I might be misremembering but I thought he mentioned that tidbit somewhere.
 
Christopher said:
The twist of Eva framing Sue Dearbon for Carver's murder is strange. Why Sue? I mean, obviously it's an excuse to keep Sue involved in the story so she and Ralph can get closer, but that's the writers' reason. What's the character's reason? Why would Eva choose to frame Sue instead of someone else? Why not Ralph,the disreputable PI? Or Barry, who's already been tried for murder once and whom many people might thus be quick to presume guilty? Or Nash, who's a dead ringer for the notorious criminal Harrison Wells? Or Allegra, a former juvenile delinquent from a family of criminals? Come to think of it, this is a pretty disreputable bunch. Sue might be an actual international thief, but her reputation is that of a harmless, flighty heiress, so she's not the most natural choice to pin the crime on. It seems like an arbitrary decision.
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Yeah, that bugged me too. She hadn't even had anything to do with Sue so it seemed weird that out of all of the people around she's the one she would go after.
I would think Joe, would have also been a good choice for a target since he had a pretty serious grudge against Carter, or even Barry since his wife was going after him.
Other than that, I enjoyed this one. It's always a nice little twist when the heroes have to protect a bad guy.
The big fight with the team vs Sunshine, Ultraviolet, and Dr. Light was pretty cool.
I was pretty shocked they actually killed off Carter, that's a pretty big win for Eva. I'm curious what they are going to do with her now that she's killed Carter.
I thought this actually worked pretty well as a season finale, it ended on a nice big cliffhanger.
 
Unfortunately, not a very good finale to a so so season. The only real plot line I enjoyed was the Crisis itself, as the show basically has become the Iris show. Post-Crisis has been the "where is Iris" show.

Meanwhile, they barely have Barry doing anything speed related, which kind of defeats the purpose of The Flash. I give them a pass on this being a bad finale because of the virus, but it wasn't a very good season overall. They need to make the show about The Flash, and get rid of some characters.
 
EW.com has an interview with The Flash showrunner Eric Wallace, where he talks a bit about what is going to be happening in what were originally the last 3 episodes of this season and will now be the first three of next season.
The big fight in the last episode was originally 12 1/2 minutes long before they edited it down to fit the 42 minute episode, and part of the reason they did the split screen was to squeeze in more footage.
There was also a scene with Sue confronting Carver that ended up not making it into the final episode.
I'm happy to hear that they aren't changing the end of the arc, I was afraid they were going to try to stretch it out to fill more of next season.
They are changing some of the first part of next story arc to connect it a bit more to the end of the this arc, since there won't be a summer break between them now.
I'm curious who the big surprise returning guest star is.
 
JD said:
There was also a scene with Sue confronting Carver that ended up not making it into the final episode.
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Hey, that probably answers the question of why Eva framed Sue for Carver's murder. Since he was blackmailing her, that gave her a motive.
 
Why do new seasons start in the fall anyway? Other than tradition? I assume that there had been a reason at some point. Why not start new seasons in January?
 
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