I saw a T-Shirt recently that had written on it "I fuck what I kill"
There are worse maxims to live by.
There are worse maxims to live by.
I know, I said that. I'm trying to figure out if/when everyone, or at least other team members, found out Barry wasn't the hero after all - or is what really happened still only known by Barry?
It seemed pretty clear that the team knew what happened. There's no reason Barry or Stein would hide it from them. As for why they didn't tell the general public, maybe there are reasons to keep Firestorm's sacrifice a secret, especially considering that half of Firestorm is still alive. It might prove difficult to explain what happened without jeopardizing some secret identities.
Besides, it was a team effort. Firestorm wouldn't have been able to shut down the singularity if the Flash hadn't stabilized it first. Barry may not consider himself worthy of the praise, but he did contribute to the solution. (Leaving aside the fact that it was his decision to time-travel that caused the singularity in the first place. But I think that was implicitly acknowledged in the lines about everyone involved having made choices that day and having to live with them.)
I'm guessing Barry has already told everyone at least the broad strokes of his belief that he wasn't the hero that day. They AREN'T talking about it because they already know.
Moreover, his guilt is perhaps overplayed, but in his mind it's certainly well-deserved. After all, if you look at last year's finale and the immediate consequences, we see that the payoff for his selfish decision to (not) alter time was huge. He goes back intent on saving his mom, but instead watches her die. Then he comes back, and literally within minutes Eddie's dead, Ronnie's dead, and the City is trashed with who knows how many casualties.
Sure, he saved the WORLD, but the whole thing branches from that one decision to try to save one person who was already dead. The ultimate payoff was springing his dad, but methinks time travel won't cross his mind all too often from now on.
Mark
I know, I said that. I'm trying to figure out if/when everyone, or at least other team members, found out Barry wasn't the hero after all - or is what really happened still only known by Barry?
It seemed pretty clear that the team knew what happened. There's no reason Barry or Stein would hide it from them. As for why they didn't tell the general public, maybe there are reasons to keep Firestorm's sacrifice a secret, especially considering that half of Firestorm is still alive. It might prove difficult to explain what happened without jeopardizing some secret identities.
Besides, it was a team effort. Firestorm wouldn't have been able to shut down the singularity if the Flash hadn't stabilized it first. Barry may not consider himself worthy of the praise, but he did contribute to the solution. (Leaving aside the fact that it was his decision to time-travel that caused the singularity in the first place. But I think that was implicitly acknowledged in the lines about everyone involved having made choices that day and having to live with them.)
I also think it is pretty clear that the other team members, including Caitlin, believe that Barry is a hero worthy of the attention that has been given to him. Ronny might be an unsung hero given that it was a team effort but Caitlin certainly hasn't taken anything away from what Barry did. At one point Barry is even told that everyone had a role to play in the decisions that led to the formation of the wormhole and he shouldn't be trying to take all the blame of the consequences upon himself.
The entire theme of the episode is that Barry is truly a hero, even if he doesn't really feel that way at the moment.
Stephen Amell said the reason his first picture in costume was released so quickly, and with a lot of inspection before was because of the negative reactions to location pictures for that Wonder Woman pilot that never was picked up.
The Flash, The Atom, Supergirl, Hawkgirl and Hawkman all have had official costume pictures released before location filming began. You never really that before these types of leaked images could be so easily circulated online.
The lines on that WW costume were just all wrong. It's like they were fighting to hide Adrienne's natural curves.
Star Labs no doubt has a number of patents that it has licensed and receives royalties for. This would pay for property taxes, etc. When the lawyer said he was instructed to put it into receivership if Barry didn't watch the video, it meant that creditors would continue to go unpaid regardless of any income and assets would be sold to cover liabilities.So does Barry own Star Labs now?
^ And would you cut your hands if you ran them through too fast? Never thought of that before.
Superman 4.
They stole some of Kal-El's hair from a museum.
It was suspending a hundred pound weight as an exhibit.
^ And would you cut your hands if you ran them through too fast? Never thought of that before.
Go watch Chasing Amy, there some.. interesting.. discussion going on about superheroes, especially Superman![]()
Superman 4.
They stole some of Kal-El's hair from a museum.
It was suspending a hundred pound weight as an exhibit.
And yet they cut the hair with an ordinary pair of scissors when they stole it![]()
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