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Spoilers The Flash - Season 2

Dark Gilligan said:
So the real Jay Garrick (the man in the Iron Mask?) is Earth-2's Henry Allen. Nice. It's a fitting to make John Wesley Shipp the original Flash again.
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Physically Shipp and the Man in the Mask don't match up well.. Shipp is a broad guy whereas Mask Man is more a slim type of physique (more like Grant Gustin) so it could be they used a different type of of body to not make it obvious and we all know they don't care about details when it comes to telling the story.

Anyway.. awesome episode and now an entire week to wait! Obviously Barry is not dead but it remains to be seen what happened. My theory is that Barry entered the Speed Force fully.. what happens there besides getting his speed back is anyone's guess but it would be cool if he met other Speedsters from different universes and time lines.. a good way to have 90s Shipp have a cameo as Flash ;)

Wally and Jessie getting hit is also a more or less obvious way of powering them up, maybe they will join in the final fight and thus be able to defeat Zoom (even untrained as they are though they could cop out and have Barry take them to the Speed Force to train them up quick and not lose real world time).

On the Iris/Barry relationship.. this bugged me all season that they didn't move a bit on their personal relationship after it was such a big deal in season 1. They even had a gf for Barry and Iris seemed very fine with it and "suddenly" she has a 180 and she's in love with Barry? A "Come On!" would have been appropriate if the scene wasn't so well acted but it still came very fast and a little out of the blue even with some hints in past episodes.

Overall a fantastic episode as the show gears up for the finale. One week.. Come on!
 
FPAlpha said:
My theory is that Barry entered the Speed Force fully..
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The visuals made it look like Barry transformed into pure speed force energy, similar to what happened to Trajectory when she ran too fast after getting doped up on velocity 9. I would guess that Wells' experiment worked too well and Barry got a large dose of pure speed force. I am thinking that when Barry returns, we might see the Flash be even faster and more powerful than before because he will have more speed force in him. This would make for a good set up for season 3 where the Flash will be a lot faster but there will also be new speedsters and new meta humans that will be more challenging.
 
My recollection of 90s Flash comics is hazy but aren't there several references to Wally West's Flash coming close to being lost in the Speed Force, with his girlfriend/wife as the anchor that keeps him from being irrevocably lost? I got the sense the Barry-Iris scene was meant to invoke something of those stories.
 
Morpheus 02 said:
This is getting me excited! Cn't wait for the actual reveal....

And going back...i wonder if what we saw a couple weeks erlier actually WAS the trip to Erth-SG, or merely HOW Barry went there... he seemd to imply he visited Earth 3, which hs not happened yet... we'll see
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I think Barry was exaggerating when he said he has been to an Earth where everyone is evil. Obviously he means Earth 2. Where a lot of his friends are super-villains.Caitlin, Cisco, Ronnie, Linda Park. Jay was really Zoom.

I suspect the real Jay Garrick maybe Earth 2 Barry's great grandfather.
 
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Commander Richard said:
The next episode is called "The Runaway Dinosaur".
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Dick Whitman said:
That title was announced last week. It was baffling than and more so after this week's episode and its preview. It might just be a metaphor. It fits nothing in the plot description.
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I was wondering if it was a reference to the Fleischer Superman cartoon with a runaway dinosaur (sort of a proto-Beast From 20,000 Fathoms), but that was called "The Arctic Giant."

Anyway, "The Runaway Dinosaur" is written by Zack Stentz and directed by Kevin Smith, so it should be interesting.
 
On this episode of The Flash, "My Three Dad's".

Could 'dinosaur' mean someone old? so, some old dude running away? like someone from the 90's?
 
Dark Gilligan said:
So the real Jay Garrick (the man in the Iron Mask?) is Earth-2's Henry Allen. Nice. It's a fitting to make John Wesley Shipp the original Flash again.
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Yeah it would definitely be pretty cool to see Shipp in the Jay Garrick Flash costume that Zoom was wearing for a while. Unless maybe they're planning to retcon the 90s Flash into being the Jay Garrick of Earth 2 instead? Or maybe he's from yet another Earth?
 
Flash back to its best with the only exception being the Iris/Barry angle needed more build up than that. The ending was amazing and I can't wait for the final episodes but they still need to fix the issues about Zoom's origin to reach season 1's level by the end...WHO IS THE GUY IN THE MASK FFS :P
 
It's starting to look like E2 Henry. At first, I thought something must have happened to Grandpa Allen before they got married (Henry was illegitimate- It mean something for that generation. But that doesn't explain how E2 Barry still had the name Allen (or did he?)
 
I'm a bit disappointed Barry's not actually dead. The ending of the episode, knowing that he couldn't die, failed to impress me. So I rewatched it trying to convince myself he had actually been decimated. Wow. That was good, and I mean really good, as if it was the intended interpretation. And would have been one major twist. We have two Flashes to replace him, after all, and capitulating to Zoom was a firing offence. And even though I like this Wells, I sometimes wish he got stripped out of his arrogance for good.

I'm unsure whether I would like whatever gimmick is going to explain his absence (“trapped in the speedforce” sounds intriguing when you don't think about it), but from the screencaps from the next episode it seems it will be put to very good use. That will be either very very good, or very very bad, but either way I'm thrilled.
 
YellowSubmarine said:
I'm a bit disappointed Barry's not actually dead. The ending of the episode, knowing that he couldn't die
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Considering the death rate of people from the Arrowverse scheduled to appear in the DCEU is really, really high, they had me going there for a second...
 
Ovation said:
My recollection of 90s Flash comics is hazy but aren't there several references to Wally West's Flash coming close to being lost in the Speed Force, with his girlfriend/wife as the anchor that keeps him from being irrevocably lost? I got the sense the Barry-Iris scene was meant to invoke something of those stories.
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Good catch.
 
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