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Spoilers The Flash - Season 2

Thanks for clarifying that Christopher. I forgot that it was a later episode than I thought. I remember when I read that thinking it was odd it would be so much later. I am assuming its because when it would fit best storywise for the Flash.

I would be fascinated to see a combined production schedule for all four series. The Supergirl crossover was filmed only about a month before it will air. Which is much sooner than normal for network television. I imagine partially due to the need to fit it into Grant Gustin's schedule on his own show. Unlike appearing on Arrow, which almost literally shoots next door in Vancouver, he had to fly to Los Angeles to do Supergirl for over a week.

Recently director Joe Dante appeared on Gilbert Gottfried's podcast. He compared the productions of Arrow/Flash/Legends(plus now Supergirl) to the way the big Studios in the Golden Age of Hollywood worked. When actors were under contract to a single studio. So often they could be seen moving around a single backlot to different films in various stages of production. Similar how many of these actors are going back and forth to different series.
 
I figured a pissed-off Barry lighting out of Star Labs at the end of last night's episode would gain enough speed to crack over into the Supergirl universe.

Apparently not.
 
His "NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!" had the power to fracture time and space, flinging him into an alternate timeline!

Makes about as much sense as Superboy Prime recreating the multiverse by punching a hole in reality.
 
Guy Gardener said:
Earlier there was an allusion that Barry "caused" the death of someone Thawne loved.

It was a line like "you know what you did".

Maybe his child died, or maybe this is all because Barry splashed him with puddle water from a gutter and got his suit wet?

An element of "regular" sex is to reach peak levels, or at the least to increase your heart rate. That's not going to happen with a speedster boning at regular human speed. Which means that Eobard learnt tantric sex, or he melts and vaporizes women with his speed-dong.

Maybe he's got family in the future?

Although consider how we saw Thawne a couple weeks back on his way to kill Barry's mother, and he Knows NOTHING about a century ago that Gideon, a computer program invented and built by Barry Allen tells him is the "real" past, it's more than possible that Gideon is telling Thawne about a fantasy timeline that doesn't exist. This would mean that Thawne was living up to history and changing nothing, and the particle accelerator is always built when it's built because the Reverse Flash always kills Harrison Wells and there is no original time line where the accelerator is built 5 years later upstream.
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Are you writing the Mallrats sequel?
 
I was hoping they would come to the conclusion that Trajectory wasn't really dead but instead the origin story of Zoom before he crossed time and dimensions to take over the body of an alternate Jay. That probably would have been too much ridiculousness for one episode, though.
 
Really enjoyed this one. Trajectory was a cool villain, and her story gave us some unexpected connections to Zoom's story. I wonder if it is going to be as simple as him using his speed to be in two places at once, or if the two personalites somehow split. I know they've established that speedsters can be in two places at once, but it seems to me that a lot of what we saw would be hard to do that way. I would think they would have to be pretty close to each other and we saw them in totally different parts of town and I think even on different worlds. We also saw Zoom holding an unconscious Jay, how exactly would that work if they were both the same person?
The new romance for Iris was definitely underwhelming.
Knowing that the comic book version of Jessie is another speedster makes me wonder if it will turn out that the V9 will still have a lasting effect even after the blood transfusion from her father. They made a comment about it being a stronger version, so maybe it was strong enough to turn her permanently into a speedster.
 
Speaking of comic book speedsters, did you notice how Jesse's metahuman detecting watch suddenly started going off more frequently when Wally showed up?
 
Maybe Spoilers... but probably not

My theory about Jay and Zoom,

Now I need to preface this by saying, I'm usually totally wrong when I try to guess about things like this. So I often forewarn people that this maybe no more than wish fulfillment.

1. Jay is Jay from Earth 2.
2. Zoom isn't Jay from Earth 2 but Hunter Solomon from Earth 1
3. That Hunter Solomon was able to go over to Earth 2 with the breaches, where he saw Jay (his counterpart) as Earth 2 Flash
4. Hunter Solomon was very jealous of Jay, didn't understand why he wasn't the Flash on Earth 1
5. That he somehow got the knowledge about Wells developing Speed7 and pretended to be Jay when Wells injected him, giving him his speed.
6. Hunter Solomon may or maynot also work at Mercury Labs or something similar.
7. His being on Earth 2 mostly is why the face tracing software couldn't locate him.
8. There was an important reason why Hunter Solomon was sitting on that bench, we'll learn of it by the end of the season.

Again, not 100% sure any or all of this being accurate, just what I tried to piece together.
 
Mr Light said:
My theory: Trajectory didn't die there, she ran through the Bleed into Earth-2. This episode was establishing how Zoom has the ability to run between dimensions at will.

And, clearly, every time you do this, you show up nekkid in the other world like a Terminator :guffaw: I was seriously expecting a post-credits tag of Trajectory appearing naked in Earth-2 and getting promptly snapped up by Zoom.
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I thought she was absorbed into the Speed Force, like Barry at the end of the original Crisis mini-series. He also left behind just a costume.

During Mark Waid's tenure on the Flash comic, if a speedster tapped too completely into the Speed Force, ran too fast, and wasn't tethered in some way to their starting point; then they would "become one" with the Speed Force and go to a sort of speedsters' Valhalla.

Wally West's love for Linda Park was his tether and it was this love that pulled him back from being essentially swallowed by the Speed Force when he ran too fast once.
 
It also happened to the Flash in an episode of Justice League. I don't remember how he got back, something to do with his friendship with the rest of the league or something.
 
Mr Light said:
My theory: Trajectory didn't die there, she ran through the Bleed into Earth-2. This episode was establishing how Zoom has the ability to run between dimensions at will.

And, clearly, every time you do this, you show up nekkid in the other world like a Terminator :guffaw: I was seriously expecting a post-credits tag of Trajectory appearing naked in Earth-2 and getting promptly snapped up by Zoom.
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Y'know, I approve of this notion.
 
Nice to see the murder of Turtle brought up again. Wonder how the team will react when they find out... water under the Trajectory-destroyed bridge? No use crying over spilt blood? :p
 
I am surprised no one has mentioned that Trajectory leaving behind an empty suit is just waiting to be modified for Jesse when her powers kick in.

http://www.designntrend.com/article...ganger-henry-returns-before-season-2-ends.htm

Barry is going to meet a new doppelganger. Plus Henry Allen is returning. It seems John Wesley Shipp is going to have a large presence towards the end of the season. He is definitely in the episode Kevin Smith directed. Plus whatever episode is filming this week. John is a Facebook friend and he posted that he is hitting the gym after a costume fitting he just did.... Let fan speculation begin... ;)
 
I'm still wondering who the actor is in the Zoom suit. They obviously cut away right before Zoom takes off his mask to reveal the actor who plays Jay. They are two different body types. I wonder if there is more to it than just simply wanting a different body type for Zoom than the one Teddy Sears has, or is there another surprise awaiting us. I still think that Zoom looks an awful like John Wesley Shipp.
 
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Dick Whitman said:
I am surprised no one has mentioned that Trajectory leaving behind an empty suit is just waiting to be modified for Jesse when her powers kick in.

http://www.designntrend.com/article...ganger-henry-returns-before-season-2-ends.htm

Barry is going to meet a new doppelganger. Plus Henry Allen is returning. It seems John Wesley Shipp is going to have a large presence towards the end of the season. He is definitely in the episode Kevin Smith directed. Plus whatever episode is filming this week. John is a Facebook friend and he posted that he is hitting the gym after a costume fitting he just did.... Let fan speculation begin... ;)
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Well I posted this mid-February:

"I'm thinking the man in the iron mask is The Flash from the 90's t.v. show. Maybe he's trying to tell them \ warn them about Jay? When we saw the image of 90's Flash, we thought it was a nice little homage \ shout out to the original tv Flash, but what if it wasn't? I've heard it said that this show doesn't do Easter eggs, and that if you see something, it's for a reason.

They showed Hex, Supergirl and Grodd in the vortex, all of whom will be appearing in the Arrowverse or having Barry meet them, leaving only the Legion and 90's Flash."

Now, whether or not he's the man in the iron mask, I don't know. We know Barry will do some dimensional travelling and maybe he'll travel to 90's Flash Earth. Now because they got Shipp to play Henry Allen, we'll find out that one of Henry's dopplegangers out there in the multiverse was named Barry who became the Flash. Or one of Barry's dopplegangers was named Henry, never became The Flash, but had a son named Barry who did. :)
 
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