The Flash - Season 1
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Earlier I was reading up on Eobard Thawne (Reverse Flash) over at DC Wikia. I never knew his Silver Age origin from his first appearance, but it tracks pretty well with Guy's theory and the things we've seen.
Eobard became the Reverse Flash when a time machine filled with 20th century museum artifacts appeared in front of him. Inside, Thawne found an authentic costume that was worn by the Flash; and Thawne used 25th century tech to harness the latent speed energy embued into the fabric. This allowed Thawne to have super speed but only while he was wearing the suit
We've now seen Wells in what could be a time machine that has an archival newspaper and possibly an A.I. curator. We've now seen Wells attaching a device to a Reverse Flash costume that appears to be augmenting or pulling power from the suit. We've also seen Wells take Blackout's blood because he was likely interested in finding a way to harness the power of the Flash.
Eobard became the Reverse Flash when a time machine filled with 20th century museum artifacts appeared in front of him. Inside, Thawne found an authentic costume that was worn by the Flash; and Thawne used 25th century tech to harness the latent speed energy embued into the fabric. This allowed Thawne to have super speed but only while he was wearing the suit
We've now seen Wells in what could be a time machine that has an archival newspaper and possibly an A.I. curator. We've now seen Wells attaching a device to a Reverse Flash costume that appears to be augmenting or pulling power from the suit. We've also seen Wells take Blackout's blood because he was likely interested in finding a way to harness the power of the Flash.
^ We've also seen evidence suggesting that Wells has used the RF suit several times, including to intimidate Joe and steal Barry's files on his mother's murder case.
One could equally argue that the Reverse Flash was trying to Frame Wells as the Reverse Flash because what happened was too coincidental unless West is an idiot.
^ Why/how would the RF have known about Joe plumbing Wells for information and Wells being irritated angered by that interrogation (which is what precipitated the RF showing up at the West household to intimidate Joe and steal Barry's files)?
Of course, it begs the question, from WHEN did Wells/RF come to intimidate Joe? Present Wells? Future Wells? Past Wells?
On that note:
What if Wells came from the Future as RF, and some how lost his powers? And now he's trying to get them back?
I doubt there is more than one Harrison Wells running around. We don't know how he was able to be in two places at once, but I'm confident we will be finding that out.
Agreed. One is running, the other spends his time in a wheel chair.
Personally, I think there is. I believe the man in the suit is one from farther down Well's timeline than the one we regularly see.
The RF showed up literally hours after Joe interrogated Wells in what was clearly a reprisal for Joe's interrogation of Wells. How/why would a future version of Wells known to do that?
The Wells we see in the wheelchair has to be the person who was inside the yellow suit, meaning he had to have found some way of duplicating himself so he could be in two places at once. It's the only option that makes what we know make sense.
The Wells we see in the wheelchair has to be the person who was inside the yellow suit, meaning he had to have found some way of duplicating himself so he could be in two places at once. It's the only option that makes what we know make sense.
Because that Future Wells REMEMBERED the conversation he had X number of years, months prior.
OR
Present Wells and Future Wells are in communication with each other.
Then, there ARE two of them running around?
But, again, it's NOT the only option that makes sense.
Like I said above, the two Wells's could be in communication with each other OR Future Wells REMEMBERS the beaten that happened, thus his line, "Pleasure to finally meet you" because the time lines are crossing.
How would he not? The interrogation is in his past, so he'd remember it. I don't understand your question. Are you assuming he wouldn't remember the exact date and time because it was so far in his past? He could've made a note of it in a journal. Plus he's got a really sharp mind, so maybe he just remembered.
Anyway, it's confusing to me to see "RF," because to me that means "radio frequency." Due to the way my mind works, I want to call him the Hsalf.
The Wells we know is pretty clearly from the future, so why would he be in touch with a separate future version of himself?
Something allowed the Wells we know to be in two places at once; the question is 'what?'
Something allowed the Wells we know to be in two places at once; the question is 'what?'
1. 21st century electronic surveillance.
2. Timescope monitoring with 25th century technology.
3. Reliving/monitoring timelines and changing the present to make the future more favourable. Investigating the case may have lead to Eddies death that would have unsettled the foundations of his personal timeline, which meant that the universe required course correction.
4. Joe is working for the Reverse Flash, being mind controlled by the Reverse Flash. A sleeper like Boomer on BSG.
5. The Reverse Flash chose when exactly in the past to murder Nora specifically to incriminate Wells.
6. The Reverse Flash paid off the Clerk in charge of looking after the case files, or put a worm in the CCPD computer system to let him know when the files are checked out.
7. The Reverse Flash is Joe West. Maybe the different coloured lightning trails is because the Reverse Flash is Black and Barry is White?
8. Wells and the Reverse Flash are in Cahoots, and Wells suggested Zoom to put the screws on Joe.
9. If the Reverse Flash is (crazy?) Barry from the Future, then there are a series of predestined moves he had to make to insure the integrity of his personal time line, including threatening the woman he loved/loves.
10. The Reverse Flash can move so fast that he might as well be invisible, even in tight enclosed spaces, and routinely monitors everything of importance to his ongoing agenda.
Time travel?
^ What are you suggesting? That the Wells we know came back from a few days in the future and revealed himself to Barry in order to set up his own acquisition of the Tacyhon device and beat himself up in order to cover his own skin?
That's the only way I could see something like what happened being plausible because of time travel.
That's the only way I could see something like what happened being plausible because of time travel.
Why not?
Though, of course, why would be NEED to be, that future version would share his memories. So, maybe, the future version is telling HIM things to do...
TIME. TRAVEL. Crossing time streams.
If indeed RF is a future version of Wells, we don't know how far down along Wells's stream he is. But, yes. Makes a great alibi, doesn't it.
This is what we've been saying.
Wells has an archive of every news paper made for the next ten years.
If shit the Reverse Flash gets up to isn't on the front page, then he can send himself instructions via the personal ads like in Desperately Seeking Susan or Time Trax.
If shit the Reverse Flash gets up to isn't on the front page, then he can send himself instructions via the personal ads like in Desperately Seeking Susan or Time Trax.
Not sure how far apart Wells and the Reverse Flash are timeline wise are. Wells may have traveled from the future using the yellow suit and needs Barry's speed to refuel the suit so he can go home. The Reverse Flash might be from further in the future and kills Barry's mom to ensure there will be a Flash and a fuel source for his suit.
The idea of the RF we saw in this episode being a version of the Wells we know who came back into the past to facilitate his own acquisition of the Tacyhon device is actually a theory I could definitely get behind. It's simplistic enough to work with what we know and has precedent in other works of fiction (such as Harry Potter).
The Reverse Flash could be from Wells' past.
Is the Reverse Flash Young Wells?
This happened in Amazing Spider-Man yesterday.
The Superior Spider-Man (Doctor Octopus mindswitched into Peter Parker for 35ish issues.) met the Amazing Spider-Man on neutral ground in a parallel Universe where Otto assumed that it was he who was upstream of Peter because, for that not to be a past version of Peter Parker standing in front of him, it'd have to mean that the indestructable Doctor Octopus was going lose control of Peter's body and just plain lose period.
UNTHINKABLE!!!!
Is the Reverse Flash Young Wells?
This happened in Amazing Spider-Man yesterday.
The Superior Spider-Man (Doctor Octopus mindswitched into Peter Parker for 35ish issues.) met the Amazing Spider-Man on neutral ground in a parallel Universe where Otto assumed that it was he who was upstream of Peter because, for that not to be a past version of Peter Parker standing in front of him, it'd have to mean that the indestructable Doctor Octopus was going lose control of Peter's body and just plain lose period.
UNTHINKABLE!!!!
