The Five Doctors, What Happened to Baker?

[arch101]

It's also safe to assume that the Doctor hears about himself in his travels. Perhaps 3 visited a world where 4 had been previously and heard a description. These guys get around you know.
Count me in for recasting the first 3 with good actors for the 50th. Either that, or the system WETA thing might become cheap enough for use on TV?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Sir Ian McKellen as the 1st Doctor. You know you want it.

^Too tall.

Meh, they can do amazing things with camera trickery. Make people seem shorter OR taller than they are.

Ok, so if not Sir Ian, how about John Hurt?

 

[I am not Spock]

First Doctor- John Hurt
Second Doctor- Timothy Dalton
Third Doctor- Sean Pertwee with a wig

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ I think you have your first and second doctors mixed up. Hurt would be better as Troughton's replacement than Hartnell, while the reverse is true for Dalton. But I don't think either is right for either part.

Sean Pertwee to fill his dad's shoes has to happen some day, IMHO.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

I thought Sean was on record as really, really not wanting to step into his dad's shoes. However, he was open to being cast as a new incarnation of th role rather than redoing what was done.

Regarding the Third Doctor knowing what the Fourth woudl be like, I think he never met him by that point and simply inferred a regeneration from their dialogue, which went something like this:

SARAH-JANE: Wait a moment…it’s you.
3rd DOCTOR: Well, of course it’s me. Hello, Sarah-Jane.
SARAH-JANE: No, no but…it’s YOU you.
3rd DOCTOR: That’s right.
SARAH-JANE: No no, you changed remember? You became all…err, erm, err…
3rd DOCTOR: Teeth and curls?
SARAH-JANE: Yes.
3rd DOCTOR: Yes, well, maybe I did, but I haven’t yet.
SARAH-JANE: Oh, I see. No I don’t.

The Doctor can recognize from Sarah that he regenerates at some point, and she was there to see it happen. He doesn't know what he'll look like, other than that he'll have teeth and curly hair.

Mark

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ I think you're right about Sean P, but we can live in hope.

 

[starsuperion]

how about we get a new 6 doctors cartoon, done in the infinite quest style and featuring all the doctors alive in voice over..(WITH ACTORS WHO CAN REPLACE THE OTHERS DECEASED IN VOICE OVER) with the story taking place before the 5 doctor's adventure, and explaining pertwee's 3rd doctor meeting the 4th..

BETTER YET, DO IT IN THE ADVENTURE GAMES! I'd love to control the 4th doctor with a K-9 on a mission for the matt smith 11th doctor!

also jon's son could do the part.. he sounds like his father..

anyhow, there is a confusing seen in the 3 doctors, where the C.I.A. Time Lord control sends the 1st doctor into the void to help fight omega, was Hartnell's part cut from that seen? after that we don't see Hartnell in there, or in the tv screen advising them either..?? was there footage that was cut from the series, or was he just physically unable to help?

 

[Ben]

I'm new to Doctor Who, so I was wondering if there was any in-story explanation for why the previous Doctors look older than they ever appeared in the series or if it's just one of those "It's just a show, I should really just relax" type of things.

 

[Iamnotspock]

I'm new to Doctor Who, so I was wondering if there was any in-story explanation for why the previous Doctors look older than they ever appeared in the series or if it's just one of those "It's just a show, I should really just relax" type of things.

Not in The Three.../Five... or ...Two Doctors, no. The only time it's ever been addressed was for Peter Davison's appearance in Time Crash in 2007. The fact of him coming into contact with David Tennant's incarnation "shorted out the time differential", resulting in him ageing prematurely to "catch up" to his future self. No previous multi-Doctor story addressed it but with Davison you really can't not as he was so young when he played the role. The others were middle-aged during their tenures anyway so them being slightly more middle-aged was something that you just had to close your eyes and pay no attention to.

 

[Ben]

I'm new to Doctor Who, so I was wondering if there was any in-story explanation for why the previous Doctors look older than they ever appeared in the series or if it's just one of those "It's just a show, I should really just relax" type of things.

Not in The Three.../Five... or ...Two Doctors, no. The only time it's ever been addressed was for Peter Davison's appearance in Time Crash in 2007. The fact of him coming into contact with David Tennant's incarnation "shorted out the time differential", resulting in him ageing prematurely to "catch up" to his future self. No previous multi-Doctor story addressed it but with Davison you really can't not as he was so young when he played the role. The others were middle-aged during their tenures anyway so them being slightly more middle-aged was something that you just had to close your eyes and pay no attention to.

Thanks! I thought that was the explanation given in Time Crash, but everyone talked so fast with those accents. I couldn't quite make it out.

 

[drwho0218]

or 12 doctors he might have regenerated but that would be a good way to start

 

[Sindatur]

Eh...I've always looked at the multi-Doctor episodes and their aging, as an alternate Doctor time stream. When a Doctor regenerates, the previous incarnation still lives on in an alternate universe/timestream, whatever, and what you're seeing is that older "Post-regeneration" Doctor (And that explains the no memory of the meeting in later regenerations, because it didn't actually happen to the younger "Pre-Regeneration" Doctor). Other than travelling with Jamie in the Two Doctors (Though without Zoe who left at the same time) is there any indication exactly where in their timeline each previous Doctor was when the meetups took place? Tom Baker/Romana can be explained via the scene is from Shada, which never happened, so it too, was an alternate timeline

 

[Starkers]

Zombie thread! Unclean, unclean!

 

[Sindatur]

Zombie thread! Unclean, unclean!

LOL, is it? I didn't notice, I just clicked the new posts button. I remembered there was a recent 5 Doctors thread, and just assumed this was it.

BTW, what is the objection to thread Necromancy? Isn't it better to dig up an old thread than to start a new one for a subject that's already been addressed?

Is it because threads of a certain age of inactivity get deleted? Or if they fall further than page "XX" they are deleted?

 

[The Wormhole]

is there any indication exactly where in their timeline each previous Doctor was when the meetups took place? Tom Baker/Romana can be explained via the scene is from Shada, which never happened, so it too, was an alternate timeline

In The Three Doctors there's no indication when Hartnell and Troughton are supposed to be from/

There's still no indication when they're from in The Five Doctors, and it's really confusing with Troughton given he's familiar with the fates of Jamie and Zoe. Pertwee has to be from his final year, given he recognizes Sarah Jane.

And again, nothing about Troughton is from in The Two Doctors. Although, I believe the accepted theory is that in all these specials he comes from "Season 6B." I personally, don't like the 6B concept, but sadly it's the only explanation that fits.

 

[Sindatur]

is there any indication exactly where in their timeline each previous Doctor was when the meetups took place? Tom Baker/Romana can be explained via the scene is from Shada, which never happened, so it too, was an alternate timeline

In The Three Doctors there's no indication when Hartnell and Troughton are supposed to be from/

There's still no indication when they're from in The Five Doctors, and it's really confusing with Troughton given he's familiar with the fates of Jamie and Zoe. Pertwee has to be from his final year, given he recognizes Sarah Jane.

And again, nothing about Troughton is from in The Two Doctors. Although, I believe the accepted theory is that in all these specials he comes from "Season 6B." I personally, don't like the 6B concept, but sadly it's the only explanation that fits.

I think mine fits. Doctor regenerates, former Doctor splits off into an alternate timeline, new Doctor continues on in Prime Time LIne.

 

[Conner Hanks]

I think it was because Jon Pertwee was either rood or mean to Tom

 

[EnderAKH]

Wow, zombied twice. Impressive.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Somebody's actually doing a Photoshopped webcomic right now imagining TFD if Baker had been willing to take part (and if William Hartnell was still around in '83): https://whopix.wordpress.com/tag/telecomics-2/page/3/

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Oddly, I'd have thought that Big Finish would have taken the opportunity to do a good crossover with Tom Baker in their works, but that has yet to REALLY happen. He was in their 50th Anniversary production "The Light at the End" featuring mainly Doctors 4-8 (and 1-3 in a very limited way), but IMO that was not a good use of any of them, as it tried to shoehorn everyone in.

Big Finish is wisely reticent to crossover their Doctors very often, compared to how they started out with the license. Still, I think it would be great for Four to cross swords with one of his later incarnations in an extended "Time Crash" sort of sense, to see how a meetup would really play out.

Mark