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The First Trailer

A question - if there were not elements of Star Trek in the film, is there anything in the trailer that would differentiate this film from the average action film?
Looks like some generic piece of crap with a Star Trek label.

Awesome trailer - very old-school, TOS Star Trek.
Yeah, because William Shatner was always riding motorcycles on TOS. :rolleyes:


I never thought I'd say this, but based on the Star Wars trailers I've seen recently and the nuTrek thing I just saw, Star Wars looks like the superior movie.
 
This is the first time I saw a trailer for a Star Trek movie and said, "I have no interest in seeing that."
 
I know it's only a minute of (insanely rapid fire) footage, but the TOS fan in me is optimistic we're going to play to our strengths and give Urban more to do and have a bit more of a Kirk/Spock/Bones focus. Those three are what Trek is about for me.

Although the big three look separated on that planet...ah well...it's only early days.

As for Beastie boys and bikes...well if that's what gets people into cinemas these days...as long as it keeps Star Trek on the big screen...I can live with it for a few minutes.
 
It's kind of unbelievable to me that the same people who were bitching and moaning about how ST and STID being rehashes, and didn't show anything new, are NOW bitching and moaning about this.

Listen, I understand the reaction of those who are hesitant because they weren't fans of the previous two films, or the fact that this trailer is being presented in a very different way then trailers for the previous films, including JJs. But to be honest, I'm glad they did something fun and exciting for this trailer, even if its a little bit different for Trek. I don't expect the final film to be just action, especially with Pegg writing it.

The basic premise of the trailer however, seemingly is a very very TOS storyline. I mean if I read in a compendium of previous Trek episodes the plot of: "After, the Enterprise is severely damaged in a battle with an unknown enemy, the crew attempts to regroup on the planet below. What they don't realize however, is that they have stumbled into the middle of a war between two rival powers. Left with no other choice, Captain Kirk allies himself with an alien warrior, in order to recover his ship and get his crew out alive. ", I wouldn't think twice about it being an outlier. I mean, thats a fucking classic Star Trek plot if I've ever seen one. That may not be the exact plot that we are working with here, but something along those lines seems close.

I can totally see where people are making the Guardians of the Galaxy connection in terms of the marketing, but I can see why Paramount has decided to market it that way. Its a pretty good template to build off of, especially for a property like Guardians, that wasn't really a mainstream property till the film came out.

I'm sure in the next few months we will see a more traditional trailer with some plot building, rather then this sort of sizzle reel teaser. I really do think the plot of this film is going to be a very classic Trek plotline, and I'm excited to see it unfold with a budget that can fit the storytelling that it wants to do.
 
Regarding the motorbike, I can see how it fits into NuTrek. In ST09 we saw Kirk in a hotrod and on a bike (a different bike; the bike in the trailer seems like an older type). And going on a five-year mission, crew are probably entitled to bring some personal items to keep them sane on the journey. Kirk brings along his bike, for sentimental reasons. Spock might bring along his Vulcan lyre.

I can imagine McCoy ribbing him about the bike - "What century are you from? It's a piece of junk!"
Then, when they are on the planet, Kirk recovers the bike from the wreckage. He turns up on it to rescue McCoy, and gives him that ironic look that is classic Kirk. "Need a ride?"
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Count me as one who liked the trailer. As far as the abramsverse films go I'm neutral on them. I get why they piss people off, but I love that they have made Trek accessible to everyone. Beyond looks like it is going back to the swashbuckling roots of TOS. I was a little concerned about the apparent destruction of the Enterprise, but I'm more excited about the prospect of seeing the crew deal with being stranded on an alien planet with no hope of escape. Destroying the Enterprise, particularly if it happens early in the film as the trailer implies is a ballsy move.


I'm also pretty intrigued by Idris Elba's character. The frontier pushes back, eh. My guess is that he is the leader of either an alien species or an alliance of species threatened by the Federation's expansion. Maybe the Federation has been interfering in the political landscape of this area of space and frakked everything up. An analogy for western interference in the middle east perhaps? Could be a good way of going back to what Trek does best and that is exploring real world situations through a science fiction lens.

At the moment, this film looks like it is going to be rollicking good fun :)
 
It's kind of unbelievable to me that the same people who were bitching and moaning about how ST and STID being rehashes, and didn't show anything new, are NOW bitching and moaning about this.

It's because they bitch about EVERYTHING..........haven't you figured that out yet? :guffaw:
 
It's kind of unbelievable to me that the same people who were bitching and moaning about how ST and STID being rehashes, and didn't show anything new, are NOW bitching and moaning about this.

It's because they bitch about EVERYTHING..........haven't you figured that out yet? :guffaw:

Enough of that please. Let's keep our comments restricted to the content of the trailer and not the people who have an opinion about it.
 
Justin Lin Box Office: $1,961,769,603

Star Trek Box Office (All Movies): $1,919,548,708

Irrelevant unless you adjust for inflation.

Nope - "inflation adjustment" is a dodge used for purposes of argument. There are so many other factors to adjust for over time that doing a little simplistic math on the gross is meaningless.

Let's stop exaggeratin the success of Trek movies - in the pre-Abrams era the box office was rarely more than just enough to keep the series going.
 
^^
Both Lin's and Trek's box office records are irrelevant to how good or successful this movie will be.
 
My immediate reaction to the trailer was FUCK YEAH, I can't wait to see a new Star Trek movie.

Having rewatched it, read all 33 pages of this thread, studied the scene by scene breakdown I am left feeling after 46 years I still love Star Trek, I am not too old to be pumped by a trailer in this style and yes I can't wait to watch this film.

At first I did think probably it was other Federation ships being destroyed and our crew investigate in a freighter for some reason but sadly it does look like the NCC-1701 on the saucer we see going down.

Let the frothing continue.
 
So let me see if i understand this.
Old guns, Gilbert and Sullivan, 3D movies, lounge singers, popcorn, chewing gum, Sherlock Holmes, the wild west, the alamo, the battle of Britain, James bond, and a whole episode of baseball = Star Trek

Motorbike and rock music = not Star Trek.

The trope of characters being into 20th and 21st century things is present on every incarnation of Star Trek so far. Why is it so out of place here?
 
‘Star Trek’ is now basically ‘Fast and Furious’ in space

Paramount believes is the course the franchise will be pursuing in the future - a frenetic, moment-to-moment action film. Will CBS follow in its footsteps? We shall see.

A question - if there were not elements of Star Trek in the film, is there anything in the trailer that would differentiate this film from the average action film?

The Washington Post's headline:
‘Star Trek’ is now basically ‘Fast and Furious’ in space

Fast and Furious is a Universal Pictures franchise not Paramount but still. The Trek films have mostly been sci-fi action since STII:TWOK but becoming more and more since ST:First Contact.
CBS untitled 2017 Trek TV series will get back to slower Trek which has always been about stories and characters with a little naval-style ship battle.
 
I have no problem with Kirk having interest in centuries old music or paraphernalia (nor did I have a problem with Tom Paris and his hobbies). Maybe it's because I live in an area of the country where grown men and women take great care to dress up in accurate Civil War era garb and re-enact battles that took place 150 years ago. Its normal around here. I'd never say this to any of them but its a form of cos-play.

And these are not hayseed yahoos spouting things like 'The South will rise again'. These people are leaders in the communities and there are professional people among them. Those uniforms and the accompanying accouterments are expensive.

So yeah, Kirk and his music and his bike, I'm good with it.
 
The trope of characters being into 20th and 21st century things is present on every incarnation of Star Trek so far. Why is it so out of place here?

Well, it's prominently featured in a trailer for one thing.

I guess it's just much more noticeable when such things pop up in 6 hours of total running time of these new movies, as compared to 700+ hours of television and films prior.
 
So let me see if i understand this.
Old guns, Gilbert and Sullivan, 3D movies, lounge singers, popcorn, chewing gum, Sherlock Holmes, the wild west, the alamo, the battle of Britain, James bond, and a whole episode of baseball = Star Trek

Motorbike and rock music = not Star Trek.
Correct.

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If a bike must be produced, I'd actually prefer a circa 20th century bike than a Battlestar 1980-esque futuristic bike or that goofball moon buggy thing they had in one of the TNG films (Insurrection?). Having a moon buggy thing attached to the ship is quite plausible but it still came across as dumb gimmickery on screen.

But even if the contemporary bike was objectionable for this setting; it's an interesting talking point, it's not going to make or break this film.
 
The bike might not be Kirk's whatever that planet he is on might be where he grabs it.

It's almost as if we are seeing things out of context and extrapolating what is in the trailer to fit our own agendas. :P
 
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