The First Trailer
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It might just be the mobile site, but I always get the 'Like a Video? Sign up and make your opinion count' pop up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't TWOK have four writers? Bennett, Sowards, Peeples and an uncredited Meyer? In TWOK's case, they literally Frankensteined several unrelated scripts together practically overnight. By the sounds of Beyond, it's a whole new script with a few elements from one previous one.
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Going back to the music for a second, three things occur to me.
1. We all know "Sabotage" is played in ST09 as Young James Tiberius drives the Corvette over a cliff.
2. In the new trailer Scotty asks, "Is that music?" Cut to Kirk who replies, "It's a good choice." Wink, wink. Obvious callback, but "Aye, well played."
3. Could this be a good natured poke at Shatner? "Sabataage." Or just a happy accident?
1. We all know "Sabotage" is played in ST09 as Young James Tiberius drives the Corvette over a cliff.
2. In the new trailer Scotty asks, "Is that music?" Cut to Kirk who replies, "It's a good choice." Wink, wink. Obvious callback, but "Aye, well played."
3. Could this be a good natured poke at Shatner? "Sabataage." Or just a happy accident?
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Granted, I'm biased because I love Pegg anyway, but I had no doubts about what he could do, and what I think he has done, so this clip feels more like "don't worry, that trailer was just to get everyone on board," which is what teaser trailers do. Now, if the much longer in-depth trailer was all action and no story details, then I'd be a little more concerned (though I'd still see the film because of course I'd still see the film!), but I have faith in Simon Pegg's ability to reach people.
So have a little faith that the movie's in good hands.
The first two were so disastrously bad that despite my having a bit of faith in Simon Pegg, there's also momentum to consider. And generally speaking, the more writers credited on a film, the worse they tend to be. So yeah, Pegg might be great, but he's one of five writers listed. Then there's all the stories of the studio thinking the original script was too Star Treky, and Pegg being brought in to fix that. To somehow make the next Star Trek film less like Star Trek (when the first two were already Trek in name only). And all the times he quit then was talked into coming back... my faith in the film is at a 1 out of 100. And that 1 is only because of Pegg's comments in that clip.
Well, then all I can do is hope you end up liking the film.
But what did they expect, really? TOS was like that, and the movie landscape certainly wouldn't make a slow-paced sci-fi movie particularily viable these days.
City on the Edge of Forever used a 30(ish) year old pop song as its love theme
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Nemesis also had 'Blue Skies' as a secondary theme (it's woven into the score after Data sings it at the beginning.) The movie is flawed, but I thought that choice worked pretty well. Though I admit Nemesis soundtrack seems to be a little divisive amongst fans and critics.
I'm going to laugh if after all this angst, the actual scene in the film has them listening to Klingon Opera.
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Nemesis also had 'Blue Skies' as a secondary theme (it's woven into the score after Data sings it at the beginning.) The movie is flawed, but I thought that choice worked pretty well. Though I admit Nemesis soundtrack seems to be a little divisive amongst fans and critics.
I'm going to laugh if after all this angst, the actual scene in the film has them listening to Klingon Opera.
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Oh wow, yeah, I'd laugh out loud, right there in the theater if that happened.
It was here (UK)
Trailers sometimes depend on where in the world you are, and which format you're seeing it in.
With all the complaints about Sabotage I can't help but be grateful that they didn't go with Requiem for a Dream...again. That's been used so many times I've lost count. My most vivid memory is Legolas sliding down those steps on his shield with that blaring in the background.
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I'm glad they went with Sabotage because all these weird mashups keep popping up now:
http://vmashup.com/cFSbveQD
I'm glad they went with Sabotage because all these weird mashups keep popping up now:
http://vmashup.com/cFSbveQD
Apparently Australian cinemas didn't have time for the new Trek trailer. They had to fit in (literally) 25 min of ads for insurance, cars, more insurance etc, and only three trailers (Batman v Superman, ID4.2, and Civil War.)
Yeah Australia kind of sucks.........It's so fucking boring sitting through that stuff.
If you read the interviews fairly thoroughly, you'll find in at least one that obscure Guild rules required the inclusion of the writers of the first script that was tossed, even though they had no part in the Pegg/Jung script. It was said that the three writers besides Pegg and Jung were never or barely heard from.
Casablanca went through an army of writers (and directors) before it even started filming. Most of the early contributions never saw the light of day, especially since so much of Rick's dialog was Bogy's own.
TVH has five writers credited. And TWOK went through several iterations. It's actually a fairly common thing.
TVH has five writers credited. And TWOK went through several iterations. It's actually a fairly common thing.
And Gravity. And The Martian. And Ex Machina. And...
The very idea that Star Trek should even be in the genre of "action movie" is a mistake, as far as I'm concerned. There was tension in the earlier TOS movies and in the original tv series, maybe a couple of fist fights, and often a single ship-to-ship combat that lasted all of 6 minutes of screen time, but even those scenes were filmed more for their drama than the spectacle.
There is no reason AT ALL why "action movie" should be the default for Star Trek. You can make an awesome Star Trek movie with literally NO action as such, and still make it a tense, thrilling, dramatic, intelligent, exciting science fiction adventure movie.
Granted, I'm biased because I love Pegg anyway, but I had no doubts about what he could do, and what I think he has done, so this clip feels more like "don't worry, that trailer was just to get everyone on board," which is what teaser trailers do. Now, if the much longer in-depth trailer was all action and no story details, then I'd be a little more concerned (though I'd still see the film because of course I'd still see the film!), but I have faith in Simon Pegg's ability to reach people.
So have a little faith that the movie's in good hands.
The first two were so disastrously bad that despite my having a bit of faith in Simon Pegg, there's also momentum to consider. And generally speaking, the more writers credited on a film, the worse they tend to be. So yeah, Pegg might be great, but he's one of five writers listed. Then there's all the stories of the studio thinking the original script was too Star Treky, and Pegg being brought in to fix that. To somehow make the next Star Trek film less like Star Trek (when the first two were already Trek in name only). And all the times he quit then was talked into coming back... my faith in the film is at a 1 out of 100. And that 1 is only because of Pegg's comments in that clip.
This has no basis in fact whatsoever. Disastrously bad? They were successful in every phase except holding on to about 20% of the of the 1% of whining old fans.
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