How is that a problem? We rarely see all the different Klingons in one place, or all the different Andorians or Tellarites.
The Fates of Kirk and Crew in the Main Novelverse
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How is that a problem? We rarely see all the different Klingons in one place, or all the different Andorians or Tellarites.
How? They all come from the single homeworld known to the Federation in the war from Benjamin Sisko's younger days. The Pocket Books incarnation operates on a fascist caste system by genetic engineering and are sophisticated in the application of artificial gravity. The IDW Publishing incarnation is obsessed with evolutionary survival of the fittest through physical combat prowess, and somehow lacks artificial intelligence, computers, replicators, and warp drive, with their ships built from glass, stone, and bone.
Umm, er, eh... perhaps their planet exists within a spatiotemporal anomaly which causes multiple versions of the planet to coexist, with different ones accessed by setting ships to different harmonic resonances or entering at different approach vectors or times?
Or, maybe their homeworld is like the Magog World Ship?
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How does that even work?
I would be happy to see this retcon, as this has more or less happened with the Gorn (multiple sub-species) But it is a bit more convoluted, with the Tzenkethi. Nor as simple as, for example: Tholians have different limb and body forms depending on the environment they grew up in... or some such comparable example.
But, here, all would basically be reptilian, and usually described as 'hulking'. The novel-verse ones would become a bit of an outlier as a result though, perhaps specially bred for political and administrative roles? Still, the differences are far from minor in this regard.
The word Coalition does sort of allow for it, though. One is tempted to find such fixes after all (given what we went through with the Klingons over 40 years) so it may be a worth a try. I'd probably still prefer most sources take their lead from ST:O going forward, though, given all the groundwork they laid, and that they drew on concepts from the original episode writer.
As that seems more, fair.
It is possible. Imagine all the surviving Xindi species named their respective homeworlds "Xindus". Stories could visit "Xindus" and deal with an open, democratic "Xindi Council" and arboreal people one time, and ethereal water people another, and harsh, militaristic reptilians yet another.
The Star Trek Adventures Alpha Quadrant book explains the ethereal Tzenkethi from the novels and the turtle-saurian Tzenkethi from STO are one and the same species.
The Star Trek Adventures Alpha Quadrant book explains the ethereal Tzenkethi from the novels and the turtle-saurian Tzenkethi from STO are one and the same species.
The Infinite Bureaucracy Tzenkethi are felinoids, not reptilians.
No it doesn't. It describes the Novelverse Tzenkethi, but shows a picture of a Tzenkethi starship from STO. There is no attempt to reconcile the different versions of the Tzenkethi species.
Ah, thanks. I forgot there was no reconciliation except for having text and picture on the same entry.
Presumably, the reptilian Tzenkethi just are the ethereal ones we know from the novels.
All I read about them implied chameleonic beings, to some degree... plus smooth skinned. Not many felinoid signs, on the face of it.
That's what I was wondering! Sisko states in a briefing that a Tzenkethi raider's hull is so thick with "literal stone" that the U.S.S. Okinawa's "torpedoes barely made a mark".
Somehow these writers think it makes sense to claim the Tzenkethi are technically pre-warp, but somehow enormous atomic reactors as ships can still provoke an immediate response from a Cardassian fleet traveling at warp. I don't care very much for these writers' writing mentality.
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Despite what was done in JJTrek, I never thought Kirk was born in Iowa; I'm stunned none of the human characters including Kirk wasn't born somewhere in outerspace.
No, he said he was "from Iowa"
My Aunt was born in South Africa but lived her life in England. She doesn't say "I'm from South Africa"
In Star Trek (2009), James T. Kirk was born in outer space. He grew up in Iowa, which is consistent with the Prime universe as KRAD said.
On the other hand, I was born in Los Angeles (the Broadway Hospital, years before it fell into disrepute, if I remember right), and lived my first couple of years in Inglewood (my only recollection of that time is of a bird pecking my head, possibly in response to a perceived attack, or possibly because my hair looked like good nesting material), but then my parents bought a house in Fountain Valley. And except for a few months when we rented out the house and moved back to Inglewood (credit a VERY ethical realtor for advising my parents NOT to sell) because my mother didn't like living closer to a bean field than to any major shopping areas, I've lived in that house ever since.
If somebody asks me where I'm "from," I don't say "Los Angeles"; I say "Fountain Valley" (or at least "Orange County"). It's not necessarily where you were born, so much as where you were raised.
And of course, just because the Abramsverse James Tiberius Kirk was born aboard the Kelvin doesn't necessarily mean Geordie and Winona Kirk didn't make it home in the Prime Universe before he was born.
Funny thing is, when I visualize the house where the protagonist of my novel-in-progress grew up, I "see" the Inglewood rental triplex unit wherein I spent less than a year. And that's also what I always visualized as the ground floor of the protagonists' home, when reading the Bobbsey Twins novels I grew up on. And I haven't a clue why; logically, it would make more sense to visualize the house that's been my home for all but a few months of the past sixty years.
Probably more than one. Maybe more than half the class.
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