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The fate of Jonathan Archer

Pick a destiny for Jonathan Archer

  • President of the Federation

    Votes: 31 57.4%

  • Admiral, academy instructor

    Votes: 20 37.0%

  • I don't like either

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • Total voters
    54
MikeSussman said:
As the author of the Archer bio, I can confirm that -- at least in the prime timeline -- Archer clung to life just long enough to personally witness the launch of the NCC-1701 in 2245, and died peacefully the next day.
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I really loved the idea of Archer being there to see the launch of Enterprise NCC-1701. It's a nice homagé to Bones in TNG "Farpoint". Enterprise really ought to have ended on that note, even if it meant Scott Bakula would have had to spend 5 hours in make-up to play a 146 year old.

In the alternate timeline, he held on an extra thirteen years in order to see the maiden flight of the Enterprise-JJ in 2258 -- after which he promptly dropped dead.
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The possibility occurs to me that the "Prized Beagle" incident occurred as far back as 2245, just after Montgomery Scott graduated from the academy. Archer lives long enough to banish the Federation's finest transporter specialist to some random world in the starcharts... and then *ahem* accidentally mislabels it Delta Vega!

Makes me happy to imagine all those unlikely coincidences happening at once anyhow... :lol:
 
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MikeSussman said:
As the author of the Archer bio, I can confirm that -- at least in the prime timeline -- Archer clung to life just long enough to personally witness the launch of the NCC-1701 in 2245, and died peacefully the next day. In the alternate timeline, he held on an extra thirteen years in order to see the maiden flight of the Enterprise-JJ in 2258 -- after which he promptly dropped dead.
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You mean Alternate Archer's last memory is of Vulcan imploding? Ouch. :lol:

Also: Mike Sussman respoded to one of my threads! :D
 
ChristopherPike said:
I really loved the idea of Archer being there to see the launch of Enterprise NCC-1701. It's a nice homagé to Bones in TNG "Farpoint". Enterprise really ought to have ended on that note, even if it meant Scott Bakula would have had to spend 5 hours in make-up to play a 146 year old.
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That's exactly how the series should have ended. :techman:

BTW - LOVE your avatar! :biggrin:
 
Admiral Shran said:
ChristopherPike said:
I really loved the idea of Archer being there to see the launch of Enterprise NCC-1701. It's a nice homagé to Bones in TNG "Farpoint". Enterprise really ought to have ended on that note, even if it meant Scott Bakula would have had to spend 5 hours in make-up to play a 146 year old.
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That's exactly how the series should have ended.
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Maybe we could have ended the late movie at that point too.
 
Mach5 said:
Can't we just assume that sometime prior to 2258 he got stuck in a temporal causality loop like Captain Morgan Bateson in "Cause and effect" and remained young while the universe around him aged?
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If Kirk had to die on some misbegotten planet in the middle of nowhere, then, no, Archer does not get to remain young while the universe moves on! :p
 
Admiral Shran said:
^ I don't know why, Archer was better than Kirk.
*runs for cover* :)
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Oh, no cover needed. I think you're crazy, but I'll excuse it. ;)

Just to be clear, though, I have nothing against Archer. I wasn't too fond of him during the first two seasons of Enterprise, but I did warm to him a lot during seasons three and four. But Kirk was my first captain.

As for the poll, I went with Admiral. I could see Archer as an Ambassador, particularly if it was to Andor or Vulcan, but I don't think he'd have the patience to make it in politics enough to tolerate being Federation President.
 
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I'd vote for Archer! :)
 
Ah hell, I'd probably vote for him, too, since I'm one of the few who actually seem to like him as Captain, then regret it for the next 4 years.
 
PsychoPere said:
Mach5 said:
Can't we just assume that sometime prior to 2258 he got stuck in a temporal causality loop like Captain Morgan Bateson in "Cause and effect" and remained young while the universe around him aged?
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If Kirk had to die on some misbegotten planet in the middle of nowhere, then, no, Archer does not get to remain young while the universe moves on! :p
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Kirk got to remain young while the universe moved on for 80 years, and then died on some misbegotten planet in the middle of nowhere.



FlapJoy said:
Why is it hard to believe that Jonathon Archer could live to be 140 or older? 22nd century medical science and a healthy physique alone could preserve a Trek character beyond our current era standards. Need I mention McCoy on the Enterprise D?
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24th century human life expectancy is less than 132. Picard is 66 in Generations and comments "recently I've become aware that there are fewer days ahead than there are behind." :vulcan:
 
zar said:
24th century human life expectancy is less than 132. Picard is 66 in Generations and comments "recently I've become aware that there are fewer days ahead than there are behind." :vulcan:
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Did he say this before or after his family was killed in a fire? :vulcan:
 
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