Spoilers The Fantastic Four: First Steps grade and discussion thread
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I don't think Reed Richards would stand a chance against a quickly expanding cellophane "Hope" sigil.
One thing that annoyed me, is Sue's forcefields were not invisible.
Sort of like a Rainbow, refracting out of spilled gasoline.
Is she the Invisible Woman, or the Rainbow Woman?
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Saw this tonight, and I had a blast. Who would have thought both DC and Marvel would each release one of their best movies starring their respective universe's foundational heroes within the span of two weeks. And to think just a few months ago after watching Brave New World I was considering not watching this in the theater. Having such a good time watching Superman on the big screen made me want to go to the cinema more often again.
This summer is a genre-high!
This summer is a genre-high!
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It was a clever way to show her force field power. hard to pull off dashed lines in live action.
Saw it this afternoon, and enjoyed it very much!
A good first entry into Phase 6 - great acting, good family focus, and a fantastic score to boot!
Gave it an A-
A good first entry into Phase 6 - great acting, good family focus, and a fantastic score to boot!
Gave it an A-
She's the light bending woman. If she bends light one way she can make things completely invisible, but they are not protected. Or she can protect them by bending light into a force field, but then everything is visible.
‘Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Lands At $117M+, Opening Reps Record For Franchise, Stars & Director Matt Shakman – Box Office Update
Marvel Studios/Disney's The Fantastic Four: First Steps is coming in lighter than projections in its first box office weekend with $117.6 million. Still records were broken.
deadline.com
The common Herald creation myth seems to about a regular bugger standing in Galactus' Palm, and then being clutched inside his glowing fist where upon the transformation takes place.
The power of his sweaty palms?
In Earth X, and only in Earth X, they say that Galactus is not eating planets per se, he's eating Celestial eggs, because they are vermin.
They said in the movies that Celestials make new suns, so killing Celestials shortens the lifespan of the universe, that thing that Galactus does not want to live through for trillions of years.
I think so. Probably an attempt to lessen the whole "complacent in genocide" thing after the character became popular.
And it opened in 150 less theatres than Superman did 2 weeks earlier, so it's probably pretty on par with Superman's opening overall.
In the comics (FF #48) yes, Earth would have been the first planet with intelligent life that Galactus had consumed (and even Galactus wasn't happy about it) but he was at the point of feed or perish.
(And at that point they hadn't thought about the Surfer's actual origin - Zenn-La and Norrin Rad weren't a thing until 2 years later in 1968 with Silver Surfer #1)
If one assumes Zenn-la would have been the first but for Norrin Rad's sacrifice (with Galactus at an earlier, point of starvation) it sort of makes sense from that standpoint. However that doesn't explain why Galactus was so feared throughout the galaxy if he wasn't regularly eating inhabited worlds before and after SS got on board as the herald.
Weren't there other Heralds before the Silver Surfer?
I thought he was the first, but this shows two before him. Retcons of course.
Just saw it and i liked it a lot. That's 2 very good movies in a row by Marvel, didn't think they had it in them anymore.
As intro movies go this was quite good. They resisted the urge to make a play by play origin story and waste half the movie before they get their powers, they cut it down to a short montage because by this point most people already know the basics and if not the montage brings them to speed well enough ( the same applies to Spiderman, Batman, Superman - lord knows we have seen enough origin stories from them to never need another one again).
The movie goes at a very brisk pace - 45 minutes over and i felt that i had just seen the big movie endfight but we were not even halfway through with it yet. Also loved how casually the FF used monumentally human history changing tech like FTL travel and teleportation and not even bat an eye and all with their retro analog High Tech
( had a big smile when Reed changed theVHS cassette containing Herbie's program from Home to Space operations).
What i also really liked is how much of a team/family movie it is and that Pascal with his star power didn't overpower the movie and dominate it. He is very important but so are the others too and that's what a real family is. Johnny is especially notable as he decodes Shalla Bal's language all on his own and comes up with a plan to use it and in the end it's that action that saves them all.
So yeah, Marvel is moving in the right direction it seems. Let's see them stick the landing with Doomsday and Secret Wars and then i'll believe they have turned a corner.
As intro movies go this was quite good. They resisted the urge to make a play by play origin story and waste half the movie before they get their powers, they cut it down to a short montage because by this point most people already know the basics and if not the montage brings them to speed well enough ( the same applies to Spiderman, Batman, Superman - lord knows we have seen enough origin stories from them to never need another one again).
The movie goes at a very brisk pace - 45 minutes over and i felt that i had just seen the big movie endfight but we were not even halfway through with it yet. Also loved how casually the FF used monumentally human history changing tech like FTL travel and teleportation and not even bat an eye and all with their retro analog High Tech
( had a big smile when Reed changed theVHS cassette containing Herbie's program from Home to Space operations).What i also really liked is how much of a team/family movie it is and that Pascal with his star power didn't overpower the movie and dominate it. He is very important but so are the others too and that's what a real family is. Johnny is especially notable as he decodes Shalla Bal's language all on his own and comes up with a plan to use it and in the end it's that action that saves them all.
So yeah, Marvel is moving in the right direction it seems. Let's see them stick the landing with Doomsday and Secret Wars and then i'll believe they have turned a corner.
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@Dick Whitman I feel almost exactly the same way that you do.... I wanted to and was ready to love this film, just like Sky Captain(!), but the movie ended... and I just felt empty.
Seeing it with family, on the way home it was quiet. We saw 'Superman' the week before, and were talking over one another on the way back about that film. After FF, in the silence of the car, I said, "So I guess people liked 'Superman' better?" and everyone said "Yes" before I finished asking. That's fine, that's just us... but it wasn't just me. I read the reviews here after seeing FF and wondered why I was the only one not loving this film.
That's neither here nor there--I want both films, both universes to do well, to force the other to innovate and make better films.
I enjoyed Vanessa Kirby as Sue, and Ben was just as good and well developed. I liked the Silver Surfer, too, she was interesting and her use of the surfboard was visceral. Johnny, well, was there. I was never in love with the casting of Pedro, but didn't like other stars mentioned for the role either, and had an open mind toward him... but Reed came off as weak and reactive to me. I liked him very well at times, but overall he disappointed.
Michael Giacchino's score was amazing and well worth the price of admission alone. I like him overall, but he's hit and miss, and this was a HIT.
Solid C grade for me... I was hoping for an A or an A+.
Seeing it with family, on the way home it was quiet. We saw 'Superman' the week before, and were talking over one another on the way back about that film. After FF, in the silence of the car, I said, "So I guess people liked 'Superman' better?" and everyone said "Yes" before I finished asking. That's fine, that's just us... but it wasn't just me. I read the reviews here after seeing FF and wondered why I was the only one not loving this film.
That's neither here nor there--I want both films, both universes to do well, to force the other to innovate and make better films.
I enjoyed Vanessa Kirby as Sue, and Ben was just as good and well developed. I liked the Silver Surfer, too, she was interesting and her use of the surfboard was visceral. Johnny, well, was there. I was never in love with the casting of Pedro, but didn't like other stars mentioned for the role either, and had an open mind toward him... but Reed came off as weak and reactive to me. I liked him very well at times, but overall he disappointed.
Michael Giacchino's score was amazing and well worth the price of admission alone. I like him overall, but he's hit and miss, and this was a HIT.
Solid C grade for me... I was hoping for an A or an A+.
I think her force fields are usually visible in the comics and most other adaptations, so that was nothing unique to this. She's the Invisible Woman because she can make herself invisible, not because of her force fields.
