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The Fall: Book 4: The Poisoned Chalice cover art revealed

And with a title such as "The Poisoned Chalice" there really isn't anything the cover that looks like a chalice or even makes a metaphorical tie in to whatever the Poison Chalice is.

My theory on the Poisoned Chalice is that it has something to do with the Trois - Lwaxana is the holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx.
 
When was the last time we saw Lwaxana? My first thought was of the Mirror Universe story The Sacred Chalice, but that was only because they both have Chalice in the title.
 
When was the last time we saw Lwaxana? My first thought was of the Mirror Universe story The Sacred Chalice, but that was only because they both have Chalice in the title.

If memory serves, I think the last time we saw Lwaxana in A Time For War/A Time For Peace. She was getting on Riker and Troi's nerves in planning their wedding.
 
Now I'm reminded - how come there hasn't been a mention of Lwaxana learning of her granddaughter? I would have expected her to move heaven and earth to be able to begin doting on Natasha in some way or another.
 
I hope not. I'm really looking forward to this as I loved Swallow's previous entry, but a large part of the appeal of Titan for me is the Strange New Worlds ethos of Trek that has been the focus of the series and is what makes it tick. If the series switched to be another TNG-like take on the franchise, I'd be very disappointed.

I'm guessing (completely uneducated obviously) that this entry is more an "anomaly" for the series and we'll see reprocussions for the crew (a la Destiny to Over a Torrent Sea) that'll spin off into whatever next deep space assignment awaits the crew in subsequent books.

But what do I know?

I hope you are right and there is no lasting change.

I think it will be only a nice change of pace for Titan, that has the bonus of sounding like a very interesting story. I really enjoyed the first Titan book and it was set in Romulan space following up on the Nemesis story.

For me, I'd like a change. Titan back in the thick of the Typhoon Pact events would be way more interesting than yet more 'Strange New Worlds' stuff. Been there and done that over many episodes and more novels. I've lost interest.

In fairness, there's enough scope to cater for everyone already, so I understand why Titan is all about exploring AND why readers want that. It's just that I don't particularly...

The exploration part of Titan has been a lot about worlds in danger, and I can remember at least 5 novels in which worlds were destroyed or on the brink of destruction. So if they do go back to exploring, I would love to see more actual exploring instead of stumbling across a world which is close to going boom. Hell, they literally watched two planets explode in two following novels (The Red King and Orion's Hounds). Perhaps in Orion's Hounds the planet didn't technically blow up, but it was hit upon by a huge plasmabeam twice.
 
Now I'm reminded - how come there hasn't been a mention of Lwaxana learning of her granddaughter? I would have expected her to move heaven and earth to be able to begin doting on Natasha in some way or another.

Don't forget she also has her own son to raise.
 
Regarding the front cover: It's a very pretty picture of a very ugly starship.

Titan ugly? Really? Ah well, taste is subjective and all. But IMHO, there are a *lot* worse starship designs out there. (Ever seen the FASA Next Generation Officer's Manual? :p)

And, um, your avatar. The JJ-prise has grown on me over time, but the Vengeance? Not exactly aesthetically pleasing. Again, IMHO, of course.
 
I'm very pleased with this cover. :bolian:

Also; FYI, this book will not focus on exploration; The Fall series is about the issues that spin out of Revelation & Dust and how they affect the Federation.

And while Lwaxana does get a namecheck, anyone who thinks the title is to do with her or the Sacred Chalice is off-base. This is more about the Macbeth quote... ;)
 
I'm very pleased with this cover. :bolian:

Also; FYI, this book will not focus on exploration; The Fall series is about the issues that spin out of Revelation & Dust and how they affect the Federation.

Awesome!

And while Lwaxana does get a namecheck,

Good to hear.

anyone who thinks the title is to do with her or the Sacred Chalice is off-base. This is more about the Macbeth quote... ;)

Sounds interesting.

OT: I started "Synthesis" this past Saturday. Fantastic book so far. :techman:
 
And while Lwaxana does get a namecheck, anyone who thinks the title is to do with her or the Sacred Chalice is off-base. This is more about the Macbeth quote... ;)

Said quote being Act I Sc. vii l. 10-12: "This even-handed justice / Commends the ingredients of our poison’d chalice / To our own lips." Macbeth is hesitating over the killing of Duncan because he's contemplating the consequences that will befall him if his crime is discovered.
 
And while Lwaxana does get a namecheck, anyone who thinks the title is to do with her or the Sacred Chalice is off-base. This is more about the Macbeth quote... ;)

Said quote being Act I Sc. vii l. 10-12: "This even-handed justice / Commends the ingredients of our poison’d chalice / To our own lips." Macbeth is hesitating over the killing of Duncan because he's contemplating the consequences that will befall him if his crime is discovered.

And of course, the "King" -- or, rather, "Queen" -- is already dead. Which brings to mind the question: Who benefits from Bacco's assassination the way Macbeth gained from Duncan's?
 
I'm very pleased with this cover. :bolian:

Also; FYI, this book will not focus on exploration; The Fall series is about the issues that spin out of Revelation & Dust and how they affect the Federation.

And while Lwaxana does get a namecheck, anyone who thinks the title is to do with her or the Sacred Chalice is off-base. This is more about the Macbeth quote... ;)

It's probably too early to ask, but do you know if this is a major change in direction for Titan, or just for this storyline? Will the next Titan novel (assuming there is one) be political or exploration-y?
 
And of course, the "King" -- or, rather, "Queen" -- is already dead. Which brings to mind the question: Who benefits from Bacco's assassination the way Macbeth gained from Duncan's?
If it were a true parallel, I'd say Section 31.
 
but the Vengeance? Not exactly aesthetically pleasing.

I don't think it was meant to be.

Yes, I'm sure you're right. But I've also seen a few people go on in the "Movies XI+" forum about how beautiful she is. Eye of the beholder, eh?

And of course, the "King" -- or, rather, "Queen" -- is already dead. Which brings to mind the question: Who benefits from Bacco's assassination the way Macbeth gained from Duncan's?

Ishan Anjar. Governmental representative of the planet we've spent most of the first entry of the series near. Got that position by manipulating Krim out of the way. Now through an engineered crisis, has managed to get himself appointed as the head of said government. The "malfunction" of the chip was deliberate, and when the details of the Tzenkethi involvement come out, he'll be able to use the threat of the Typhon Pact to grant himself emergency powers and sideline the Council. Just all part of his nefarious plan to turn a peaceful, democratic federation into a ruthless, totalitarian empire!

OK, probably not.

(But just in case, those cadets at Starfleet Academy better watch their backs!!)
 
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