Nor mine. In fact it *increases* my eagerness for it. Go Chuck!
You want a few harmless swear words removed so more children can be exposed to graphic violence?
That's mighty morally superior of both you and Chuck
The Expendables 2 - Anyone Keen?
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You want a few harmless swear words removed so more children can be exposed to graphic violence?
That's mighty morally superior of both you and Chuck
Depends whether they've dubbed over swears with other stupid melonfarming words, or whether by "screenplay" it means they just didn't shoot/record said words.
On the upside, at least we have confirmation that Charisma Carpenter is back as well...
When Bruce Willis says in the trailer "I could have put you in the deepest, darkest. Hole." I would have sworn that they cut out profanity.
This all reminds me of Die Hard 4. But the good thing is that the rating wasn't my problem with Die Hard 4. There weren't so many scenes in The Expendables that got the R-rating. And most of it was fake CGI blood trickery, which made me cringe most of the time when I saw it.
Nor was the Shinedown song 'Diamond Eyes' during the climax. Originally, Stallone just looped more of Brian Tyler's score.
I suspect that's the case as well. I recall hearing that the studio originally wanted the last Rambo to be PG-13. A few years ago, Aliens vs Predators was reduced to a PG-13 rating, despite the fact both franchises had alweays been R-rated ones. I doubt that Chuck Norris, who is practically an infomercial actor at this point, was the deciding factor.
Whoevers idea this was, it's a bad one. This is supposed to be an action film (a violent one) catering to fans who grew up watchign these guys act. I think it's safe to say kids don't give a shit about most of these actors. The older fans made it a hit, allowing a sequel to be made.
I had to laugh at Stallone trying to reassure people that this film has a real emotional tone...nobody is going to see this film for the acting, jackass. Only seeing big action stars of the past doing violent things. Although nothing is as funny as him telling everyone that Van-Damme gives a great, emotional performance. Nobody believes that and nobody cares.
When Bruce Willis says in the trailer "I could have put you in the deepest, darkest. Hole." I would have sworn that they cut out profanity.
This all reminds me of Die Hard 4. But the good thing is that the rating wasn't my problem with Die Hard 4. There weren't so many scenes in The Expendables that got the R-rating. And most of it was fake CGI blood trickery, which made me cringe most of the time when I saw it.
You could see they dubbed over a lot of the language though.
A little humor I stumbled upon about the 'net regarding the Ratings change for the film.
I actually thought he did quite well in "JCVD."
I was going to post.. but you took the words otu of my mouth. Usually I don't mind when a film is PG-13.. that means cutting around the violence and thereby heightening the suspense. But in this case you are dead on accurate. This is not an art film, it's a film for us, who grew up with these stars!
Gone are the days were they simply made a film and then received the rating without aiming for it. I don't think they made Die Hard and said "We need to shoot for an R-Rating because it will give us market share X of target group Y!".
Greedy economists are ruining every part of our lives nowadays.
Greedy economists are ruining every part of our lives nowadays.
LOL, the mocking continues:
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/new...ated-version-of-the-expendables-2-more-beiber
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/new...ated-version-of-the-expendables-2-more-beiber
The last two with Stallone of the "Stay in School" tat and Team Jacob shirt are the best imo!!
http://www.moviehole.net/201252179-...es-t5-will-be-r-expendables-2-rating-backlash
I guess the hardcore Expendables fans feel like they've been screwed over, and Terry Crews even starts mocking them. Not even Bob Orci did that. But then again, Orci doesn't use Old Spice.
An R rated Terminator 5 with Arnold Schwarzenegger? I seriously hope they have Arnold as a badass human resistance fighter this time. That one I'd watch without hesitation.
I guess the hardcore Expendables fans feel like they've been screwed over, and Terry Crews even starts mocking them. Not even Bob Orci did that. But then again, Orci doesn't use Old Spice.
An R rated Terminator 5 with Arnold Schwarzenegger? I seriously hope they have Arnold as a badass human resistance fighter this time. That one I'd watch without hesitation.
The producer intended the first movie to be PG-13 too. Take out all the horrible CGI blood, the scene with Terry Crews and his shotgun, the scene with Dolph Lundgren shooting the pirate in half, and the Bruce Willis swearing (which was filmed well after the main movie wrapped), The Expendables is PG-13.
Hedging your bets with PG-13/R gets you something like Alien vs. Predator. You're playing it safe to begin with so you lose a bit of edginess, and then the R-rated/unrated version feels tacked on and unnatural.
It's the edges like that that make action movies great and memorable, at least for me. None of my favorite action movies are less than R-rated. Yes, the violence and the swearing is in that case a big issue. Heck, Demolition Man mocked the PC crowd that wanted less violence and less swearing, and now we're getting this. Oh, the irony. The R-rating enables full creative freedom in actions scenes and characters, and it makes things more realistic, too. People in real life swear. People in real life getting hit by a grenade blast get blown to pieces. That's the way it is. And that was the point of the first movie, a throwback to the "good old days" of no-bullshit violent action movies from the 80s. So making the next one PG-13 changes the entire point of the franchise.
Expendables was never intended to be PG-13. There was the risk that they cut it down to that rating, though. CG blood is cheaper and easier to do than on set blood squibs. It's not CG blood because they changed their mind about the rating. The Behind the Scenes show Jason Statham fight people with just the grip of a knife in his hands, and then they inserted the blades digitally so that he could slit throats and stuff.
Not only that, most of the fight scenes would have been heavily cut. No neck breaks, no arm breaks, and all of Jason Statham's knife fights would make no sense without the blood. Steve Austin burning (despite being a horrible CG effect) would have been cut, so would have been Eric Robert's death. I also think that the waterboarding scene would have had to be cut or at least shortened. There's also the scene with Sly cutting one guy's arm and head off.
Expendables was never intended to be PG-13. There was the risk that they cut it down to that rating, though. CG blood is cheaper and easier to do than on set blood squibs. It's not CG blood because they changed their mind about the rating. The Behind the Scenes show Jason Statham fight people with just the grip of a knife in his hands, and then they inserted the blades digitally so that he could slit throats and stuff.
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