The Expanse season 2
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An OK episode with a few highlights, Chrisjen mainly. It seems like they didn't plan this episode very well. It kind of meandered around and then it ended.
A few oddities in it too. Some mentioned above. But, why would Holden not be straight with shoot, what's his name, the new guy? Why was he locked up in his room? I get the radio silence thing but to not even explain seemed out of character.
Gunny wasn't quite as annoying this episode. Although, sorry, no amount of resolve can force you to keep your eyes open in light that is too bright!
And, it was weird how this episode went out of its way to make the heroes look like asses. The whole thing with Amos agreeing with the new guy that they usually went in unprepared and relied on luck. The shootout fiasco. Holden being a prick. Maybe their overconfidence is setting themselves up for failure?
A few oddities in it too. Some mentioned above. But, why would Holden not be straight with shoot, what's his name, the new guy? Why was he locked up in his room? I get the radio silence thing but to not even explain seemed out of character.
Gunny wasn't quite as annoying this episode. Although, sorry, no amount of resolve can force you to keep your eyes open in light that is too bright!
And, it was weird how this episode went out of its way to make the heroes look like asses. The whole thing with Amos agreeing with the new guy that they usually went in unprepared and relied on luck. The shootout fiasco. Holden being a prick. Maybe their overconfidence is setting themselves up for failure?
yes she was in fine form
Still not as potty-mouthed as the novels though Been a while since I read the books, but iirc their treatment of Meng was inline with how things happened in the Novel.
Thing is, in the novel there kind of was a legitimate reason to distrust Prax since the kidnappers forced his daughter to send a message calling Prax an abusive dad, so the Roci crew were understandably wary of him. We don't have that here, meaning the Roci crew are just being dicks to him for no real reason.
Yes and no. In the novels, Praxidike Meng is kind of an idiot and basically lock him in his room to keep him from fucking everything up. By the time he sets foot on the Rocinante for the first first time, he's accidentally started a gunfight, accidentally started a food riot, almost accidentally started ANOTHER gun fight, and had to be forcibly restrained during Mei's first rescue attempt because he kept running ahead of everyone and getting into everyone's line of fire. He's a guy who's seen one too many action movies and has never actually been in a dangerous situation himself so he has NO IDEA what the fuck he's doing half the time.
Pretty sure you read (or are remembering) that wrong.
In the novels, nobody on the crew actually believed the fake news report. Also it was his ex wife, not his daughter, and that came pretty late in the story, close to the point where Mei's disappearance had become a viral story and half the solar system already knew about it and Prax had been on the Rocinante and/or Tycho for months already.
Actually, Nicola's accusation interview turned out to be the turning point for the entire story: It's what makes Avasarala finally take Meng (and by extension, Holden) seriously, since it means that Erinwright sees Meng's search for his daughter as a big enough threat to try and drive the public against him.
Actually, Nicola's accusation interview turned out to be the turning point for the entire story: It's what makes Avasarala finally take Meng (and by extension, Holden) seriously, since it means that Erinwright sees Meng's search for his daughter as a big enough threat to try and drive the public against him.
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^^About that
Wasn't there a part in the novel where Amos at least has doubts about Prax and tries to goad him into admitting the stories are true. Eventually, he relents that Prax is indeed innocent, after which Prax asks "had I been guilty you'd be okay with that?" and Amos says he would have killed Prax himself that very instant if he were guilty
Interesting. Yeah, in the show, they just look like dicks. So, in the novels, there's no question that the daughter is alive? Although, I guess there's not much of a question in the show either with that video of the Dr. taking her.
Yeah, but again, that was more than halfway through the book and it happened exactly once. It was like Amos went to his room and said "They ARE lying about that shit, right? It's okay, you can tell me."
I'll have to look into it. I've been reading into this online and apparently this has cropped up for a lot of Verizon users, who are annoyed at having an extra charge to view stuff that was previously free and which gets stacked onto the cost of their existing FIOS bundle. Some people have contacted them and been told that the issue is not with Verizon but with the content producers (networks), but some have been told otherwise when contacting said networks directly. So I'm not sure what's going on.
Apologies if this is too far off topic, but it's frustrating for me to have these sorts of issues when I often can't view the original airings. I've enjoyed watching The Expanse and I'd hate to not keep up with it.
Ex-wife not daughter.
My memory's a bit fuzzy, but the circumstances surrounding her abduction are different. Unlike the show, where she was visiting the doctor for an appointment, in the novel the doctor shows up at her school with a woman pretending to be her mother and take her away. Prax knows his daughter is missing, even before Ganymede is attacked.
No, he didn't find out she was missing until he went to pick her up from the daycare in the middle of the battle and Mei's teacher told him that she had already been picked up by Doctor Strickland. He then spends the next several weeks trying in vain to find Doctor Strickland while Ganymede Station decays into anarchy, its social and physical infrastructure falling apart piece by piece.
In fact, the first he finds out that Mei is missing is in the aftermath of the attack when he can't find Strickland or Mei at the medical clinic and nobody knows where they are. And also nobody gives a shit, because the station is falling into chaos and security can't be bothered with a half-starved ex-scientist with a missing person's report.
I remembered seeing him before but i could not figure out which show he was from. Thanks.
At this point - with the dragging out of the stuff with Prax and Ganymede, am starting to loose interest in the show and it's onto my Watching Out Of Obligation, rather than my Can't Wait To See It list - and the books are some of the greatest scifi books I've read in a long-time (original universe that is, and cutting aside Cibola Burn which took an excruciating amount of time to get through).
Haven't been in this thread for awhile as I fell behind but caught up today. Wanted to say that while I liked the first season, I'm enjoying this one quite a bit more.
Shohreh Aghdashloo is killing it.
Forget Kirk, I want the next Kelvinverse movie to follow her on a starship.
Shohreh Aghdashloo is killing it.
Forget Kirk, I want the next Kelvinverse movie to follow her on a starship.
She's incredible. A different level from the other actors.
Edit: from lever to level...
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I hit that point today too. Bobbi's been rewritten to: "My entire squad got killed by a giant blue freak who, by the way, also massacred the U.N. troops and that's what started the fight... but I'm not going to say anything about it and I'm going to keep being really ambiguous about what I remember because it's more dramatic that way."
There was ALOT of drama in the novels about what actually happened on Ganymede but there wasn't any question about WHAT happened: they knew from the moment Bobbi regained consciousness that the Protomolecule had been unleashed on Ganymede, so all the real drama and angst was "Who is responsible and what are you/they/we hiding?" I gave them credit for completely avoiding the "The hero saw the alien but there's no video evidence so nobody believes" her cliche because that would have been stupid and tired (and they even fucking SAY SO right there in the narration!) so having the series run right back to that same cliche is a MASSIVE turn off.
I'm staying with it because it feels like they're setting it up for a big reveal in a plot-twisty kind of way and it'll end up being worth it. If, however, it ISN'T worth it, I'll probably cut this one loose after season 2 and stick to the novels.
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