I really want to make a Star Trek VI Enterprise Model, but with the ship after the battle of Khitomer.
The Enterprise Model nobody seems to make
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You mean the refit model with a bad paint job? Then just airbrush on some black scorch marks.
The TMP shooting model originally had the famous iridescent paint job. That's very difficult for modelers to reproduce. Some time after TWoK it was repainted (by ILM I believe) to look more white and blue. I think the reason was the TMP paint caused issues with their camera work. I think it heavily reflected the green screen, or whatever color they were using, behind the shooting model.
So just paint your model in the crappy paint and use a soldering iron to punch in some damage. And spray on some black scorch marks. Easy peasy.
The TMP shooting model originally had the famous iridescent paint job. That's very difficult for modelers to reproduce. Some time after TWoK it was repainted (by ILM I believe) to look more white and blue. I think the reason was the TMP paint caused issues with their camera work. I think it heavily reflected the green screen, or whatever color they were using, behind the shooting model.
So just paint your model in the crappy paint and use a soldering iron to punch in some damage. And spray on some black scorch marks. Easy peasy.
Well hell, there are three plastic model kits of the ship - the original 1/537 AMT/Ertl kit if you can find it, the 1/350, 1/1000 and 1/2500 Polar Lights models, which are currently available. There are also a few resin garage kits out there in various scales. Like Capt Rob says, all the damage was painted on the shooting model for the movie, so saying "nobody makes it" is untrue. Buy one of the above, and paint it up. Trust me, you won't be the first!
IIRC Douglas Trumbull used a strange blacklight/clear florescence technique for pulling his mattes in filming- this allowed for filming colors and surfaces which would not work with the bluescreen. When ILM too over the SFX they had to adjust the model to work with their techniques.
For duplicating the post combat look on that version of the Enterprise just watch the film and make reference marks on your model kit. As mentioned, most are just scorchmarks- the only interesting one is the saucer punch through, but the hull is thinnest there so you do not have much of the interior greebly up.
For duplicating the post combat look on that version of the Enterprise just watch the film and make reference marks on your model kit. As mentioned, most are just scorchmarks- the only interesting one is the saucer punch through, but the hull is thinnest there so you do not have much of the interior greebly up.
TMP 1701-Refit was so impressive on screen, it looked so bad in the later films TFF, TUC with this "new" paint job.
I've got the DVD version of the Directors Edition of TMP. And for me it fixes all of the issues people complain about. Except for the very long inspection flyby of the refit Enterprise. But I like that part. This edition is beautiful. If I had a Blue-ray player I'd buy the that version.
In the nineties, fine scale modeller did a two issue article on how to paint the kit the right way (TMP) I read it in my father's copies.
For the VI version, there are after market parts made that let you stick the dining room inside the ship, so it's certainly very doable.
I am researching making a voyager kit (my first model kit in 20 years, and first made as an adult, and depending on how desperate I get, the first made without my father stepping in to help.) and people have even made year of hell accurate versions of that, so starship destruction is certainly a thing.
For the VI version, there are after market parts made that let you stick the dining room inside the ship, so it's certainly very doable.
I am researching making a voyager kit (my first model kit in 20 years, and first made as an adult, and depending on how desperate I get, the first made without my father stepping in to help.) and people have even made year of hell accurate versions of that, so starship destruction is certainly a thing.
I wish the Director's Edition was available in BluRay but only the theatrical one is. The new SFX for the Directors Edition were not rendered in high enough resolution to work in HD and IIRC the assets are no longer around.
There may also be conversion and detail kits to add the desired movie specific battle damage. I have a really nice photo etch set for the Polar Lights 1/1000 kit that adds the Wrath of Khan Battle Damage and can be used to create either the end of WoK 1701 or the beginning of Search for Spock with the makeshift repairs over the damage. I have also seen Resin and Photoetch kits to do the self destructing Enterprise from the end of Search for Spock.
While not specifically meant for Star Trek VI Battle Damage, the Wrath of Khan set that I have has an assortment of damaged saucer panels that could easily be used to do the ST VI damage.
http://www.paragrafix.biz/product_detail.asp?MainCat=Photoetch&SubCat=blank&PPartNum=PGX131
You might just need to do a bit of kitbashing to create a through the saucer hole with some shattered decks inside. Pretty easy to pull off with some scrap styrene. They also make a generic battle dame set.
http://www.paragrafix.biz/product_detail.asp?MainCat=Photoetch&SubCat=blank&PPartNum=PGX134
For the 1/1000 scale models there are a few outfits that make some really nice really complex decal sets that can provide the movie specific azteccing and some of the coloring.
https://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/in...nterprise-refit-supplemental-decal-sheet.html
https://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/in...1000-constitution-mk-ii-wallpaper-decals.html
(note I think that second decal sheet is actually for the TMP multi hued aztec'ing. But there are sheets out there for the later movies as well)
The downside is the photoetch kits and decals add quite a bit to the cost of the model. So you start with a $15 or $20 Polar Lights kit and it can cost $50-$60 when done. But they will do what you are looking for and look great. And the customization isn't really that scary with a few basic tools.
While not specifically meant for Star Trek VI Battle Damage, the Wrath of Khan set that I have has an assortment of damaged saucer panels that could easily be used to do the ST VI damage.
http://www.paragrafix.biz/product_detail.asp?MainCat=Photoetch&SubCat=blank&PPartNum=PGX131
You might just need to do a bit of kitbashing to create a through the saucer hole with some shattered decks inside. Pretty easy to pull off with some scrap styrene. They also make a generic battle dame set.
http://www.paragrafix.biz/product_detail.asp?MainCat=Photoetch&SubCat=blank&PPartNum=PGX134
For the 1/1000 scale models there are a few outfits that make some really nice really complex decal sets that can provide the movie specific azteccing and some of the coloring.
https://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/in...nterprise-refit-supplemental-decal-sheet.html
https://starshipmodeler.biz/shop/in...1000-constitution-mk-ii-wallpaper-decals.html
(note I think that second decal sheet is actually for the TMP multi hued aztec'ing. But there are sheets out there for the later movies as well)
The downside is the photoetch kits and decals add quite a bit to the cost of the model. So you start with a $15 or $20 Polar Lights kit and it can cost $50-$60 when done. But they will do what you are looking for and look great. And the customization isn't really that scary with a few basic tools.
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