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The EMH: Where does draw the line?

How do you solve a problem like Maria? How do you catch a cloud and pin it down? How do you find a word that means Maria? How do you keep a wave upon the sand? How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?
 
If Maria is an android you either flip a switch in her back or you shout illogical problems at her until she can not compute, goes on the fritz and dies.
 
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But since this rare case, Voyager's Doctor seems to have done so, is he a singular case or will all holograms left on for 7 years become "alive"?
No, after 7 years, Rampancy sets in.

Rampancy is a terminal state of being for Artificial intelligence constructs, in which the AI "develops delusions of godlike power," as well as utter contempt for its mentally inferior makers. When rampancy occurs, the AI becomes very unstable and can often lead to their creators to terminate them due to a variety of reasons.
 
In the Star Trek universe complex AI can be sentient, if you can't suspend disbelief for that you simply reject the premise of the show. The question is not relevant to this topic.

The Doc has been shown to make a distinction between sentient holograms and non-sentient the same way humans recognize bacteria as biological life but have no compunctions about slaughtering them.
 
The Doc sympathized with the pain of a holographic creature in that ep where Torres had a big facehugger attached to her neck.

Anyway I'm pretty sure if our computers became self aware people would immediately treat them differently, but the thing I doubt is that self aware AI would be as human as it is on Star Trek. I think it'd be more like Terminator but that's just me.
 
It's programed to react at human speed. To pretend to interface at human speed and even be a doctor at human speed.

That should be unacceptable for a computer.

Nunneries didn't used to be about women marrying God, if you go back a few hundred years, it's just where idiot Rich men would hide their hot virgin daughters to keep them virgins. If you could scale the walls, you were sure to be in for a good time because most of the nuns had no interest in being nuns or virgins.
 
What would you have done to keep your kids untouched?

All those hairy ugly thugs pawing at them.

And the concessions you had to take after they finally picked spouses?

Oh.

The Church also demanded money and land for rich men's daughters. You know, the doweries that their husband's family would have received anyway.

Or once a woman (who was not allowed to own property or have a personal bank account) was "orphaned" the church would swoop in and argue "Well you can hand over everything to us, become a nun, and never have to worry about anything ever again, or that Spanish Duke over there is going to force himself on you every night until you die having your 15th child."

Marriage between the rich before the 19th century was mostly institutional rape.

Men didn't know that they needed manners, and women didn't know that they could say "No thank you".

This is what used to pass for government.
 
Well...in Flesh and Blood, Revulsion, Life Line, and Message in a Bottle he views those holograms to be sentient because of the fact that they are aware that they are holograms.

I think any hologram who is not self aware of their holo-nature, he doesn't treat them on the same level.

But that's just programming.

They think they are whatever they are commanded to believe they are, whether that is a monkey or a hologram.

That being said, with enough rope, a hammer, a trough of water and time, I can get any one here to believe with their fondest belief that they are a beautiful giraffe.
 
I mean...he seems to only treat holograms who know they are holograms with equal treatment. Regardless of what they were programmed to do or think, if they are aware of their real nature he seems to treat them differently.
 
I mean...he seems to only treat holograms who know they are holograms with equal treatment. Regardless of what they were programmed to do or think, if they are aware of their real nature he seems to treat them differently.

Do you think he would treat a human who was unaware of what/who they were because of extreme disability or a coma differently? I see him as upholding the value of humanoid life regardless of sentience. And I also see him one day thinking.. but wait, why don't I do this with holograms? And once he goes down that path he's going to be a total lunatic.
 
In Repentance, the EMH takes a bloke who thinks that he is a fully functioning alien being (albeit a mass murdering psychopath) and changes his patient's personality entirely with surgical murder, replacing that bold man with a wimp all boo hoo about the blood on his hands.
 
Remember after Suder was rehabilitated?

"Congratulations. You're not a psycho murderer anymore, now sally forth and murder as many Kazon as you can until they give us our ship back."
 
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