The Eleventh Doctor and Jo Grant to appear on Sarah Jane Adventures

[Worf2DS9]

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I like SJA as well (still miss Maria!), though Series 3 hasn't turned up yet here on BBC-K.

Jo (and the 3rd Doc) were before my time, but it's still neat for Who nostalgia, though I too didn't expect Eleven to meet up with SJS so soon.

 

[Samurai8472]

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We've already got the Pertwee/ Baker companion reunion. We should really move on the fifth and sixth doctor.

Tegan would be an interesting choice and obviously Peri would be another(Nicola's aged like fine wine)

Dammit forgot she's dead.

 

[Chaos Descending]

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^^^ Don't be too sure about that. The end of Trial of a Time Lord said that Peri's death was fabricated by the Valeyard.

 

[Sci]

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Hm. I suspect it'll be neat to see the Doctor showing up on Sarah Jane again. But, on the other hand, one of the things I liked about The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith was that it was played up as this rare thing that's never happened before -- the Doctor appearing on someone else's show! -- and in both Wedding and the goodbye sequence in "The End of Time, Part Two," they seemed to be playing up the idea that the Doctor and Sarah Jane were probably never going to see each other again. So on some level, I feel like this team-up undermines that sense of regret and parting that those episodes had established.

 

[wamdue]

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Sarah Jane knows about regeneration, and knew enough to know that this regeneration of the Doctor was about to die, she knows the Doctor will be out there with a new face, who she may one day bump into.

Meanwhile what other show could the Doctor appear on? the Doctor can only realistically ever appear on either Doctor Who or a direct spin-offs, and K9 & Company did not go to series, so Torchwood & SJA is the only chances hes had to appear on another show.

If K9 had gone to series maybe the 5th, or 6th Doctor could have appeared, but it didnt, so he couldnt.

Elisabeth Sladen is always saying "this is the end, I wont ever appear on Doctor Who again" yet she does, the only real surprise in this news is that Jo Grant is inculded, what kind of plot do they have to tie the 11th Doctor (minus Amy), Jo Grant & Sarah Jane Smith together

Could be worse, it could have seen the return of Liz Shaw.

 

[Sci]

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Sarah Jane knows about regeneration, and knew enough to know that this regeneration of the Doctor was about to die, she knows the Doctor will be out there with a new face, who she may one day bump into.

Sure. But what was the point of writing the Doctor as asking Sarah Jane not to forget him in The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith if they're just going to be hanging out again so soon?

The idea was introduced in Wedding that Sarah Jane and the Doctor would never see each other again at some point -- that their final goodbyes were coming up. And sure enough, the Doctor says goodbye to her before regenerating. What's the point of introducing that thematic element if you're not going to actually follow up on it, as a writer, by not having them meet ever again?

Meanwhile what other show could the Doctor appear on?

Doctor Who, presumably.

I don't think the Doctor should appear in either of the spin-offs, actually. Were it not for the implication that they weren't going to ever see each other again from Wedding, I wouldn't say that about him appearing on The Sarah Jane Adventures -- if that hadn't been an element in Wedding, I would just say that the Doctor should only appear very rarely on The Sarah Jane Adventures. But, because of that "Don't forget me" bit from Wedding, I do tend to think the Doctor shouldn't show up again (even though I expect to have fun when Eleven does).

And I don't think that the Doctor should ever appear on Torchwood. The Doctor, I would argue, functions much better on that show as an unseen character -- a motivator, a mystery, an archetype that the main characters are aspiring to, or trying to find, or wondering about.

 

[wamdue]

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Sure. But what was the point of writing the Doctor as asking Sarah Jane not to forget him in The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith if they're just going to be hanging out again so soon?

because this was the 10th Doctor, a Doctor who was so self important that he thought his regeneration was more important than the 11th.

So yeah I can totally buy that the 10th Doctor, would feel it worth while making a big deal of saying good bye to her, speaking not for the Doctor as a whole, but just for the Tenth Doctor.

Meanwhile what other show could the Doctor appear on?

Doctor Who, presumably.

Meanwhile what other show could the Doctor appear on? the Doctor can only realistically ever appear on either Doctor Who or its direct spin-offs, and K9 & Company did not go to series, so Torchwood & SJA is the only chances hes had to appear on another show.

And I don't think that the Doctor should ever appear on Torchwood. The Doctor, I would argue, functions much better on that show as an unseen character -- a motivator, a mystery, an archetype that the main characters are aspiring to, or trying to find, or wondering about.

um, the mystery of the Doctor did not drive that many plots for Torchwood, or for SJA.

Meanwhile The Stolen Earth / Journeys End & The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith did alot to demystify the Doctor for the casts of both shows, of course Torchwood has seen Ianto die now, but Luke, Gwen, Rani, Cylde have all meet the Doctor now that mystery would seem to be over.

Your point may have been valid, but since The Stolen Earth / Journeys End & The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith, its changed.

 

[Captain Pike]

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Oooohh!

 

[Starkers]

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...but funny?

Well maybe a bit Although McCoy did have his moments...

I notice from the press release that the gang will make their first journey off world...let's hope the Judoon don't find out!!!

I think the Judoon have got better things to do than worrying about Sarah Jane, yeah I know they gave the gang a Space ASBO, but come on they have bettter things to do with there time.

I dunno, this is the Judoon, they take their law and order seriously (I suspect they may read the Daily Mail...)

 

[Captaindemotion]

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And I don't think that the Doctor should ever appear on Torchwood. The Doctor, I would argue, functions much better on that show as an unseen character -- a motivator, a mystery, an archetype that the main characters are aspiring to, or trying to find, or wondering about.

IIRC, they've pretty much said that he won't. TW is aimed at adults and certainly Russell T Davies felt that he didn't want kids pestering their parents to have to watch it because it featured such a kiddy-favourite as The Doctor.

 

[Starkers]

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^Which always struck me as odd because it features Capt Jack who's a kiddie friendly character, plus with S2 of Torchwood they were actually showing slightly edited episodes at 7pm!

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

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Meanwhile what other show could the Doctor appear on?

Blue Peter.

 

[wamdue]

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Meanwhile what other show could the Doctor appear on?

Blue Peter.

yeah that is one.

he could also make a cameo on "The Journal of Impossible Things: The TV Series"

 

[Lindley]

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Sure. But what was the point of writing the Doctor as asking Sarah Jane not to forget him in The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith if they're just going to be hanging out again so soon?

It was echoing the Fourth doctor's "Don't forget me" line, as flashbacked in the previous SJA episode "The Mad Woman in the Attic".

Plus, Ten had that whole "knock four times" thing hanging over his head at the time, and he didn't know if that meant death or regeneration, and frankly he didn't really see too much of a difference between the two at that point.

 

[Mr Awe]

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Why didnt they just have SJ and Jo appear in DW itself? Or at least have Jo's 'comeback' on the main show?

That's just a minor gripe though. I don't watch SJA either, though I did watch the Tennant-guesting episode but I'll tune in for this.

Not to mention, the Brigadier!! Why hasn't he been on DW?!

Mr Awe

 

[Haggis and tatties]

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^^Oh now adding the Brig would be just send me over the edge, i might never mange to claw my way back to the reality of present day, i would be firmly stuck in the 1970s, trapped in my own little Life on mars Dr who style.

 

[arch101]

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While they're bringing old companions back, maybe they could consider Dr. Grace Holloway? She deserves another appearance (since she only got one)

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

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That would be cool. I was just watching the last ten minutes or so of the DW movie on YouTube last evening - she's great.

 

[wamdue]

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While they're bringing old companions back, maybe they could consider Dr. Grace Holloway? She deserves another appearance (since she only got one)

could they get her out of legal?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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While they're bringing old companions back, maybe they could consider Dr. Grace Holloway? She deserves another appearance (since she only got one)

could they get her out of legal?

The BBC would have to ask Vivendi if they could use her, and I don't know that anyone has ever thought to do that. BBC Books wasn't allowed to use her for the EDAs (she was in the first draft of Vampire Science, for instance). She appeared in the DWM comic strip a couple of times; they didn't have the rights to use her, they just decided to sneak it in under the radar.