I'm getting Beyond as soon as it's available, and I'm now ordering the Star Trek Compendium.
The Domestic Box Office run is ending, International is kicking in.
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The biggest problem in budget cost reduction for ST4 are actors salaries. The cast salary renegotiations raised Beyond's budget $10 to $15 million. Chris Pine's went from $600,000 for ST09, to $1.5 million for STID, to $6 million for Beyond. And that's Pine alone, not counting Zachary Quinto (whose on equal pay grade) and Zoe "GotG" Saldana and the rest of the crew/cast. You do the math. And to think there was talk of bringing back Chris "Thor" Hemsworth for ST4!
Pine got 6 million? That's ridiculous. He's not A-list. Saldana is more A-list than Pine based on the work she's been in (Avatar, Guardians).
"Paramount… recently completed last-minute renegotiations with the Star Trek stars, a move that has added as much as $10 million to $15 million to the budget. The project’s slow development process may have been partly to blame, as well as the rising star power of the actors, especially Chris Pine and Zoe Saldana."
"The actor, who portrays Captain Kirk, earned only $600,000 for the 2009 movie (not a surprise considering he was still untested), but is looking to beam out with about $6 million for the new movie. Pine was paid $1.5 million for Into Darkness and was to have been paid $3 million for a third film…"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-trek-3-stars-raises-805204
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The weekend box office update is in.
Star Trek Beyond (made for $185 million) has almost reached $243 million worldwide. $151 million domestic and $92 million international.
In comparison Paramount's Ben Hur (made for $100 million) has reached $41 million worldwide. Suicide Squad (made for $175 million) has surpassed $635 million worldwide. Jason Bourne made for $120 million) has almost reached $348 million worldwide.
Star Trek Beyond (made for $185 million) has almost reached $243 million worldwide. $151 million domestic and $92 million international.
In comparison Paramount's Ben Hur (made for $100 million) has reached $41 million worldwide. Suicide Squad (made for $175 million) has surpassed $635 million worldwide. Jason Bourne made for $120 million) has almost reached $348 million worldwide.
Pine got $3million for Beyond and will get $6 million if there is a ST4. I would argue that Chris Pine is about as A-list as his generation of Hollywood stars are going to get. The big Hollywood A-list star system is dying as 'names' are no longer drawing audiences to the theaters like the did even a decade ago. If you look at other actors of Pine's generation most of their movies outside the big franchises they are a part of have not done good box office.
As for Saldana, Uhura is not as vital to the movies as Kirk and Spock are. Pine is the lead actor and Quinto is the second which is why they would be getting paid more. Saldana has never been pushed as a leading lady in the same way studios have tried to push Pine as a leading man. Also very sad fact is women get paid less in Hollywood than their male counterparts.
Also given Beyond's box office, if ST4 is made it will be done on a reduced budget and unless ST4 us a huge success, it would undoubtedly be the last time the whole Kelvin cast works together as the cast are becoming too expensive to all be in the same movie.
Sigh... I hate it when people comment without having read the sources. Let's try this again, shall we?
"Paramount… recently completed last-minute renegotiations with the Star Trek stars, a move that has added as much as $10 million to $15 million to the budget. The project’s slow development process may have been partly to blame, as well as the rising star power of the actors, especially Chris Pine and Zoe Saldana."
"The actor, who portrays Captain Kirk, earned only $600,000 for the 2009 movie (not a surprise considering he was still untested), but is looking to beam out with about $6 million for the new movie [which is Beyond because this is a 2015 article]. Pine was paid $1.5 million for Into Darkness and was to have been paid $3 million for a third film [that's Star Trek Beyond], according to court documents filed during a 2012 lawsuit between the actor and his former talent agency. So he's doubled his money."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-trek-3-stars-raises-805204
"While the sci-fi franchise won’t officially mark its 50th anniversary until September, the celebrations are kicking off this month, with the July 22 release of Star Trek Beyond, the third film in the latest reboot of the series. But as the current Captain Kirk, Chris Pine, rakes in an estimated $6 million for his performance in the latest film..."
http://fortune.com/2016/07/21/star-trek-beyond-net-worth/
So it's $600,000 for Pine alone for ST'09, it's $1.5 million for Pine alone for STID and $6 million for Pine alone for Beyond. Deal with it.
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Quite right. The decrease in quality of each new film only serves to increase the level at which people look at the previous films through rose tinted glasses. Hell, I'd rather watch The Final Frontier than Beyond.
I guess it all depends on China now...
For Paramount this summer, Trek is a winner even underperforming. 
China and devoted fans elsewhere can make the difference. If you can, check where it's still playing for you. I may see it a fourth time.
China and devoted fans elsewhere can make the difference. If you can, check where it's still playing for you. I may see it a fourth time.I don't think you can be an A-lister these days until they cast you as a superhero. Saldana has already been one (in Guardians). Pine's going to be the male damsel in distress in Wonder Woman. Not that playing second fiddle automatically makes you B-list (Amy Adams is Lois Lane but still A-List), but outside of Trek Pine is a B-lister. He's got to prove he can drive ticket sales on the back of his name-recognition alone. Right now Chris Pratt is worth what Pine thought he was when he asked for 6 mil.
Who makes these letter lists, and how do I get on one? I don't want to be anything more than maybe a R-lister or perhaps a P-lister for a few weeks.
If Pine was A-list, wouldn't he be making an up-front salary of more like 20-30 million per picture?
You know what else gets old in a hurry?
Condescension.
Please try to do better.
From Forbes' "Box Office: The Big Bombs And Bigger Disappointments Of The Summer" article:
"Star Trek Beyond
Another casualty of over-budgeting, this crowd-pleasing and (my second act kvetching aside) fan-pleasing sci-fi sequel proved that the third time wasn’t the charm for the rebooted franchise. The film will top out at around $160m, well below the $228m and $256m domestic totals of the last two Star Trek films in 2013 and 2009. It’s not done overseas yet, but its current $230m total points to another Star Trek that didn’t connect outside of North America. Had this film cost a lot less than $185m to produce, then we might be having a different conversation. The Star Trek franchise is never going to be a top-tier series, and its budgets need to reflect that. We’ll see if that announced fourth installment (which will bring back Chris Hemsworth) gets made".
"Star Trek Beyond
Another casualty of over-budgeting, this crowd-pleasing and (my second act kvetching aside) fan-pleasing sci-fi sequel proved that the third time wasn’t the charm for the rebooted franchise. The film will top out at around $160m, well below the $228m and $256m domestic totals of the last two Star Trek films in 2013 and 2009. It’s not done overseas yet, but its current $230m total points to another Star Trek that didn’t connect outside of North America. Had this film cost a lot less than $185m to produce, then we might be having a different conversation. The Star Trek franchise is never going to be a top-tier series, and its budgets need to reflect that. We’ll see if that announced fourth installment (which will bring back Chris Hemsworth) gets made".
$6 million is not remotely an A-list fee for starring in a big-budget film. Tom Cruise is after $75 million for the next Mission Impossible.
I recall reading that Stewart got $14 million - nearly quarter of the budget - for Nemesis.
So few of them do. ID was the exception rather than the rule. Paramount's years of rubbish TV deals in favour of selling overpriced VHSs didn't help.
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Exactly!
I want to expand on something I said earlier about Pine and subsequently actors of his generation no longer being considered A-list stars. The traditional Hollywood definition for a A-List is an actor (male or female) who is the star of their movies, commands very large salaries in the area of $20 million plus and typically does good box office because their name alone has a built in audience.
Over the last decade or so that has changed audiences are increasingly going to see the 'franchise movies' not really caring who is starring them. For example Chris Hemsworth has made it big as Thor but everything he has done outside of Marvel movies has not been a hit: Rush, In the Heart of the Sea, Blackhat etc.
As a result young movie actors are getting paid considerably less than their older counterparts. People like Tom Cruise, DiCaprio, Damon, Bullock, Jolie etc. get huge salaries for starring in their films.
Got to disagree a bit with Forbes. If Trek is to remotely compete, it can't just be cheapo effects. You have to have decent budgets, not the peanuts they used to do it on.
China, we need 100m in 3 weeks or we're all dead
True. The 4 TNG movies combined had the budget of Into Darkness alone. But with Beyond underperforming and Paramount's disastrous year(s), the budget for ST4 will probably be smaller (if it gets made at all). At the same time the salaries for the crew/cast (Pine, Quinto, Saldana, Urban, Pegg, Cho) are doubling (or even quadrupling) with every movie. So unless there is a dramatic change (like the aforementioned $100 million from China), it seems to me that ST4 (or even Beyond) will be their last movie together.
Does Star Trek have a big following in China?
I wonder if that is for the best, I liked the new film franchise, but these films have not maintained the same excitement level from the first film, the special effects budget and actors salary have gone up and the finical returns have gone down. Plus one of the main actors died, this is not a bad place to end the franchise or at least give it a good rethink. Maybe it would be better if they focused more on the new TV series instead.
I also think there is a balance between the low budgets of the previous film series and the really high budget of these movies, I think they could have cut a lot of money out this film. The York Town looked cool, but the special effects used to created it were not important to the plot, you could have replaced it with a normal space station and nothing would be lost. Deadpool proved you could make great sci fi movies on a lower budget with the right script. I think you can make a great Star Trek movie for 100 million dollars or even 80 million dollars, 180 million dollars seemed a bit high.
Even aside from the merits of the Kelvinverse, I'd be sad to see them end because I've enjoyed having Trek films feel like they're a big deal.
Going from the likes of Insurrection (an awkward interview with Gates McFadden and, after an initial fan-packed screening, a viewing in a cinema populated by three people - one of whom began snoring loudly) and Nemesis (no publicity and rapidly gone from cinemas) to tours by multiple stars, interviews on popular shows and well-attended screenings (even for Beyond) has been wonderful.
Going from the likes of Insurrection (an awkward interview with Gates McFadden and, after an initial fan-packed screening, a viewing in a cinema populated by three people - one of whom began snoring loudly) and Nemesis (no publicity and rapidly gone from cinemas) to tours by multiple stars, interviews on popular shows and well-attended screenings (even for Beyond) has been wonderful.
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