Nailed it. They could easily do a tense 'balance of terror' type movie that would be like, say 'crimson tide' that would absolutely rock for 100 million.
The Domestic Box Office run is ending, International is kicking in.
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Nailed it. They could easily do a tense 'balance of terror' type movie that would be like, say 'crimson tide' that would absolutely rock for 100 million.
Deadpool was made for $58 million, and it had a few big sequences. I don't think a budget cut for Star Trek 4 would mean the end of big setpiece action, just a reduction in big setpiece action.
I'm just waiting for the call from Paramount...
The biggest problem in budget cost reduction for ST4 are actors salaries. The cast salary renegotiations raised Beyond's budget $10 to $15 million. Chris Pine's went from $600,000 for ST09, to $1.5 million for STID, to $6 million for Beyond. And that's Pine alone, not counting Zachary Quinto (whose on equal pay grade) and Zoe "GotG" Saldana and the rest of the crew/cast. You do the math. And to think there was talk of bringing back Chris "Thor" Hemsworth for ST4! 
I wonder how much for the entire TNG crew/cast? Hmm, Patrick "Xavier" Stewart might also be expensive. 
When do you think we'll know for sure if ST4 is getting made or not?
Well, seeing as it's certainly NOT on the bomb list for the summer, I'd say we'll know pretty soon.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/gal...ce-bombs-of-2016-so-far/ss-BBw5PYX?li=BBnb7Kz Exhibit A.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...sers-at-the-box-office-this-summer/ss-BBvRbYY Exhibit B.
I'd say Paramount should recognize that if their marketing had been better and they hadn't pulled the first trailer because of a small segment of the public and released the film in May, it might've done better.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/gal...ce-bombs-of-2016-so-far/ss-BBw5PYX?li=BBnb7Kz Exhibit A.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainm...sers-at-the-box-office-this-summer/ss-BBvRbYY Exhibit B.
I'd say Paramount should recognize that if their marketing had been better and they hadn't pulled the first trailer because of a small segment of the public and released the film in May, it might've done better.
Funny how according to that one list Suicide Squad is a loser. It cost a bit less than Beyond but has made almost $600 million. I bet Paramount wishes Beyond was as big a loser as that.
But you do have a point regarding the marketing. For a time after the first trailer dropped, I forgot that Beyond was being released this summer at all thanks to Paramount keeping things quiet earlier in the spring.
They must have pulled the trailer from the theater I first went to see TFA at. I mean... WTF? I wanted to see that trailer!
Pretty soon?
Don't think so. Paramount is in big trouble. Those troubles need to be solved first before they greenlit another movie. Could take years.
And how on earth could they release Beyond in May when Lin was working on the movie until July...
Don't think so. Paramount is in big trouble. Those troubles need to be solved first before they greenlit another movie. Could take years.
And how on earth could they release Beyond in May when Lin was working on the movie until July...
I know that, you know that. However the moronic suits at Paramount don't understand such basics of filmaking.
He was working on it till July despite needing to get the print out to cinema's that month as it released in July?
They did some post reshoots in March so I assume by May at the latest it would of been complete no way July that seems insane. We all know the early production of STB was a total mess and again another failing of Paramount. The July date was a big reason why the film suffered.
Yesterdays Ent style wouldn't be that expensive either
Like BJWagner said, one list has Suicide Squad branded as a loser even though it was made for $175 million and has passed the $600 million mark worldwide. Paramount would wish for Beyond to be such a 'loser'.
As for having ST4 news pretty soon I highly doubt it. Viacom and Paramount execs don't have only Beyond's trouble to think about. If you look at the above "10 biggest box office bombs of 2016" list, three of the ten bombs are Paramount movies (Zoolander 2, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot and Ben Hur). 2017 doesn't look so good either. That will mean changes, budget cuts and cancellations all over the board.
As much as I enjoyed the film, you can't deny in parts they were going for some seriously OTT action scenes in this. The saucer flip is a perfect example, it was brilliantly entertaining but could have easily been written out if needed. A tense sci fi thriller is what is needed next, not another ridiculous blockbuster if the budget is inevitability going to be reduced, or if the film even happens at all, which to be honest you've got to question considering beyond is going to seriously struggle to score a meaningful profit at this stage.
The list of box office bombs is wee bit premature. There is another film which looks more likely every day as a bomb - Kubo and the Two Strings. It is sitting at $19 million with a $60 million budget.
Suicide Squad is haning in there and, regardless of its flaws, is staying in the top ten, while Star Trek Beyond is no longer in the top ten. One thing for certain is that the film domestically will not reach $185 million.
The board at Viacom has signaled their confidence in Paramount's leadership. The plan for a turnaround was persuasive and was a contributing factor for this continued vote of confidence.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/paramount-pictures-chief-gets-vote-of-confidence-from-viacom-1472240286
It looks like Paramount will be expanding their animation and television departments.
Suicide Squad is haning in there and, regardless of its flaws, is staying in the top ten, while Star Trek Beyond is no longer in the top ten. One thing for certain is that the film domestically will not reach $185 million.
The board at Viacom has signaled their confidence in Paramount's leadership. The plan for a turnaround was persuasive and was a contributing factor for this continued vote of confidence.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/paramount-pictures-chief-gets-vote-of-confidence-from-viacom-1472240286
It looks like Paramount will be expanding their animation and television departments.
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