The Destruction of Romulus!?

[Esirprus]

After watching Generations which I later felt was a mistake, considering that it just didn't have the same story quality as TNG or the TIS movies. So I stopped watching Star Trek movies. Now that I'm getting ready to launch a new series of my own in this universe, I joined here to do some research into what fans want and to get some exposure to the target audience. Hype, I think is the right word. But upon arriving here I saw someone make a reference to the destruction of Romulus as though this was common knowledge. Am I missing something here? And if it is, is it important? Thanks.

 

[RoJoHen]

Haven't seen the reboots, huh?

 

[BillJ]

Prime universe Romulus (and Remus) were destroyed by the Hobus Supernova in Star Trek (2009).

 

[Esirprus]

Prime universe Romulus (and Remus) were destroyed by the Hobus Supernova in Star Trek (2009).

Did that include all warbirds and Romulan colonies? They control a vast space in order to have a neutral zone!

 

[BillJ]

Prime universe Romulus (and Remus) were destroyed by the Hobus Supernova in Star Trek (2009).

Did that include all warbirds and Romulan colonies?

No information beyond Romulus.

They control a vast space in order to have a neutral zone!

One doesn't equal the other. The Romulan sphere of influence could be large or quite small.

 

[Esirprus]

Then the destruction of Romulus is extremely temporary given a character I know who's Romulan.

 

[Kemaiku]

Star Trek: Star Charts shows the region of Romulan space is actually pretty small, completely surronded by Federation space and is about less than half the size of the Klingon Empire.

That and in the novelverse, after the assassination of the Senate and Shinzons rebellion, the Empire collapses into two indepedent states within the same space.

Nero was loyal to Romulus, his pregnant wife and likely both their families lived there. Though there were labourers and probably more dependent on the old Romulan regime.

The Hobus star was somewhere near the center of Romulan space, Romulus and Remus are located nearer the Neutral Zone so the stars destructive region would have consumed about two thirds of their space, that would have wiped out their fleet and both states homeworlds.

Post 2387, the remaining civilian population of their worlds and any ships that survived, all the Neutral Zone stations and colonies would be refugees in need of Federation aid.

Assuming the Klingons didn't just invade and have done with it.

 

[Terok Nor]

I never quite understood the decision to destroy both Romulus and Vulcan. Talk about limiting your storyline potential. If it ever goes back to the Prime Universe I hope Romulus has been restored through some time altering method. Presumably Vulcan is still intact unless the Romulans launced a revenge attack because Spock couldn't save their planet.

 

[Esirprus]

When I started writing I was basing it solely on the prime universe and I have no intention of changing that. What I have learned here is that he who gets the prime universe restored by CBS first has his way. The Romulan Empire shall live.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I never quite understood the decision to destroy both Romulus and Vulcan. Talk about limiting your storyline potential.

Since each planet was destroyed in a different timeline, that really doesn't apply.

 

[Dukhat]

When I started writing I was basing it solely on the prime universe and I have no intention of changing that. What I have learned here is that he who gets the prime universe restored by CBS first has his way. The Romulan Empire shall live.

Since you're only writing fan fiction (as I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that CBS hasn't given you a contract to write a new television series) then you're free to make up whatever you want.

But if one of your own personal goals is to write your story within the confines of the canon Trek prime universe after the year 2387, then Romulus was destroyed on that date, and that's a canon fact that can't be changed, unless you're planning to come up with some fancy-dancy-timey-wimey-fannish sci-fi way of bringing it back from the dead.

I'd suggest you watch Star Trek '09 to get a better idea of why and how this happened so that you can be as accurate as you can with your story's information, if you care about being true to Trek canon. Also, since you state that you stopped watching Trek movies after Generations, I'd also suggest you watch the next three TNG films, especially Nemesis which takes place on Romulus.

 

[uniderth]

The so-called "Prime Universe" Romulus is alive and well.

 

[Dukhat]

The so-called "Prime Universe" Romulus is alive and well.

That is, up until 2387, when it gets destroyed.

 

[uniderth]

The so-called "Prime Universe" Romulus is alive and well.

That is, up until 2387, when it gets destroyed.

Oh you silly boy.

 

[-Brett-]

After watching Generations which I later felt was a mistake, considering that it just didn't have the same story quality as TNG or the TIS movies. So I stopped watching Star Trek movies. Now that I'm getting ready to launch a new series of my own in this universe, I joined here to do some research into what fans want and to get some exposure to the target audience. Hype, I think is the right word. But upon arriving here I saw someone make a reference to the destruction of Romulus as though this was common knowledge. Am I missing something here? And if it is, is it important? Thanks.

So you think you're making a series of your own set in the Star Trek universe, but you haven't seen any Star Trek made in the last twenty years?

Yeah, good luck with that.

 

[Dukhat]

So you think you're making a series of your own set in the Star Trek universe, but you haven't seen any Star Trek made in the last twenty years?

Yeah, good luck with that.

To be fair, he said he only hadn't seen any films past Generations, not that he hadn't seen anything.

 

[Kemaiku]

Since the Hobus event, and the destruction of Romulus occur in the prime universe, it has to be acknowledged, the novels are converging on 2387 themselves and ready to set up the events prior to it.

The only difference, is that Spock disappears from the prime timeline stopping the star from destroying *all* of Romulan space, and is presumed missing.

We as the audience know he currently resides in the alternate timeline now branching it's way further away from the prime one, but 2387 onwards the characters we now from the previous universe, think him dead.

But we see events taking place in the post TNG era after that, the Enterprise E still doing her thing, just under Captain Data.

So feel free to have her helping the Romulan refugees, as that part still happened.

 

[T'Girl]

The so-called "Prime Universe" Romulus is alive and well.

Just have the future event of ST Eleven take place in a different universe than the series (and first ten movies) prime universe, and you're good to go.

 

[BillJ]

The so-called "Prime Universe" Romulus is alive and well.

Just have the future event of ST Eleven take place in a different universe than the series (and first ten movies) prime universe, and you're good to go.

Or learn how to write an interesting story within the confines of what has been set up by past material. Or create their own material, that way they don't have to follow that evil Abrams.

 

[Kemaiku]

Then again if this is fanfiction, it's not like it matters that much anyway.