Spoilers The Descent of Data

[Terok Nor]

Lore was clearly a psychopath. He knew how to charm people into trusting him or feeling sorry for him and used it to his own gain. I was never convinced he cared about anyone other than himself. Not that he deserved to die of course.

 

[Longinus]

The idea of putting Lore on trial , to be punished for his actions is, in essence, as unjust as would be doing so with someone who is mentally incompetent. Lore is unfit to stand trial. He is by design not capable of emotional stability, & thereby not competent.

There are a lot of people who are mentally ill to the degree they're dangerous to others. We don't kill them. We lock them up and try to cure them.

Data knew this, & knew the only solution was to deactivate him. Data has also always considered himself to be the sole bearer of the Soong family legacy. He refuses to allow Maddox to tamper with him. He considers Lal is sole responsibility. The choice of how to handle Julianna was his alone. Why should the issue of Lore be any different?

Because Lore was a person and as a such should have some rights.

 

[Mojochi]

^No one killed him. Data neutralized him in the only possible way, by deactivation. There really is no evidence that Data completely destroyed him, just disassembled. It's easily possible that Data had intended to work on corrections for him, in the future. He is, after all, a cyberneticist too. If Lore WERE to be cured, this would be the way to do that

Which raises another question... Why when Data meets Soong in Brothers is there no mention of Lal, when Soong remarks about hoping Data would've follow in his footsteps as a cyberneticist? Big missed opportunity IMHO.

 

[letsconsiderit]

I never thought there was any malfunction in Lore, & I can't really call him an evil person either. He is functioning exactly how he was meant to.

Ya when we first get introduced to Lore his main character difference is the fact that he has ambition, which is necessarily an emotional characteristic. Ambition on its own, with out sympathy and empathy is what makes him selfish

He shows immediate denial & remorse, when learning Soong is dying, & expresses genuine regret

he gets so moody and pissed off when he learns that Soong is dying, I guess thats an outcome of being selfish, not want to lose anything

Because Lore was a person and as a such should have some rights

I dont know about this, morally ya, but technically, as has been discussed in other threads, the verdict in 'measure of a man' only gave Data the right to choose. Also I'm of the opinion that because Data, Lore, Lal and the Juliana were androids, they were kind of there own race. A race that weren't actually members of the federation so they weren't really beholden to federation laws, Data was as a member of Starfleet, but if he left Starfleet (like he threatened in 'Measure of a Man') he wouldn't have had to live by federation laws. the federation therefor had no say in what happened to Android's. but thats just how I saw it

 

[JirinPanthosa]

This idea that Starfleet can't give Lore a trial because he's in a 'Civilization of two' is absurd. He committed crimes against the Federation, that's absolutely their business, and they can absolutely have a trial. I think the reason Lore didn't get a trial is that Measure of A Man was actually a one time exception made for Data that only applied because they like him. If you go into a foreign country and steal in that country, of course that country can try you for theft. If Lore went to Romulus and killed a Romulan, it would not be the Federation's jurisdiction. He attacked the crew of a Federation ship.

I think before the chip Lore was able to act and think as if he was acting on emotion but he couldn't really experience them. It's the same with Data, he's able to act as if he feels loyalty and connection to people because they are part of his decision algorithm, but he doesn't really experience those feelings.

 

[letsconsiderit]

This idea that Starfleet can't give Lore a trial because he's in a 'Civilization of two' is absurd.

Your right, after seeing responses like this I realised I misread the plot to suit my own opions, personaly I think the federation have no business interfering in android matters, but forsure if the federation thought of the androids as a race they would hold members of that race accountable from crimes against the federation.
but they dont-

I think the reason Lore didn't get a trial is that Measure of A Man was actually a one time exception made for Data