The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

[Warped9]

With everything thats been spilled so far I think we have the (very) broad strokes of it except for the ending. I'm hoping we haven't seen the best stuff in the trailers which, if so, makes me rather giddy anticipating what we haven't seen yet.

If it delivers (which seems likely) then it'll be the best overall live-action take to date on a superhero across a number of films in the same continuity. It'll set a new bar with this kind of serious minded approach to the superhero genre. Seriously I don't see how Man Of Steel could be on this level, but we'll see.

And as much fun as The Avengers was it just isn't in the same arena as Nolan's Batman trilogy. That isn't say other superhero films aren't good and enjoyable in their own right, but Nolan has just really elevated the game.

 

[sonak]

With everything thats been spilled so far I think we have the (very) broad strokes of it except for the ending. I'm hoping we haven't seen the best stuff in the trailers which, if so, makes me rather giddy anticipating what we haven't seen yet.

If it delivers (which seems likely) then it'll be the best overall live-action take to date on a superhero across a number of films in the same continuity. It'll set a new bar with this kind of serious minded approach to the superhero genre. Seriously I don't see how Man Of Steel could be on this level, but we'll see.

And as much fun as The Avengers was it just isn't in the same arena as Nolan's Batman trilogy. That isn't say other superhero films aren't good and enjoyable in their own right, but Nolan has just really elevated the game.

I agree. If TDKR is on the same level of quality as the previous two, Nolan's trilogy will be seen for a long time as THE standard by which comic book movies are judged.

 

[JarodRussell]

I agree. If TDKR is on the same level of quality as the previous two, Nolan's trilogy will be seen for a long time as THE standard by which comic book movies are judged.

Nah, I don't know. It's Batman, a very different comic book hero. The tone and feel of the Nolan Batman movies work for Batman, but only for Batman.

 

[RoJoHen]

Frankly if we're picking a comic book movie standard, I'd much rather go with The Avengers over Nolan's Batman movies.

 

[Warped9]

Frankly if we're picking a comic book movie standard, I'd much rather go with The Avengers over Nolan's Batman movies.

They're two different animals. Nolan has taken his trilogy beyond the usual scope of comic book superheroes. Avengers is good and entertaining, but it doesn't have the same dramatic heft.

And while this trolgy has a similar feel to Frank Millers take on Batman it avoids the characterization of Batman as obsessed borderline psychotic.

 

[RoJoHen]

Frankly if we're picking a comic book movie standard, I'd much rather go with The Avengers over Nolan's Batman movies.

They're two different animals. Nolan has taken his trilogy beyond the usual scope of comic book superheroes. Avengers is good and entertaining, but it doesn't have the same dramatic heft.

I understand that, and that's why Nolan's movies don't really feel like "comic book" movies to me. They're certainly good, but I don't want too many of my superhero movies to be so grounded in reality.

 

[Warped9]

And no one is saying they should, including me.

 

[Warped9]

In truth few other comic book characters could lend themselves to Nolan's approach, few that I can think of. You could probably do it with any number of characters for one film perhaps, but not sustained. It depends on what you're aiming for.

Superman could be done serious minded albeit with some humor, but you would need a really good story to pull it off. The only other traditional superhero I can think of that might work this way is perhaps Daredevil.

 

[Captrek]

Kind of like how TWOK's story wasn't exactly typical Star Trek (at least as the franchise had existed up until that time), but was so successful that almost every Trek feature since has had to feature a Khan-like supervillain getting blown up at the end. This has, I feel, been to the detriment of the later films.

It's good that TWOK was such a great film, but it's unfortunate that misguided attempts to replicate that success have compromised the later films. It's good that Nolan's Batman films are so great, but I hope that misguided attempts to replicate them don't end up compromising the quality of the genre as a whole.

 

[Warped9]

It's a mistake when something works well enough and then everyone is in a rush to copy it. Pure example of me-tooism.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

So the first reviews (well, more capsule reactions than full reviews) are filtering out from a critics/journalist screening as well as exhibitors screening.

I've been reading the non spoiler ones, and the reaction so far is... Rapturous. Godfather 2 comparisons, lots of talk about how epic it is, best of the 3, etc

"The third movie, especially, has the calibrated plot gears and satisfying story clicks that made 'The Prestige' and 'Memento' multiple-viewing material for disciples of the director's film"

"To your original question - there are things I criticize in every film, but this one measures high on many measures. There will be some surprises but not big ones, the beauty of the film is how well it tells the story. Tom Hardy was incredible as Bane, the storyline was fantastic. I think the Joker is far more iconic than Bane, with more memorable quotes, but this story was great, including Bane's origin. Godfather 3 never happened. Xmen 3 & Spider-Man 3 were awful, this film was the perfect final chapter in the trilogy."

 

[Admiral James Kirk]

Godfather 3 never happened.

I for one am relieved.

 

[Timby]

Frankly if we're picking a comic book movie standard, I'd much rather go with The Avengers over Nolan's Batman movies.

They're two different animals. Nolan has taken his trilogy beyond the usual scope of comic book superheroes. Avengers is good and entertaining, but it doesn't have the same dramatic heft.

I understand that, and that's why Nolan's movies don't really feel like "comic book" movies to me. They're certainly good, but I don't want too many of my superhero movies to be so grounded in reality.

"Grounded" is a good word to describe Nolan's Batfilms. "Reality" or "realistic" is absolutely wrong, though. I think "believable" is a better word for them, even though they're loopy as fuck a lot of the time. The bank robbery scene in The Dark Knight is a perfect example, it's Heat and Point Break at the same time.

 

[Set Harth]

And while this trolgy has a similar feel to Frank Millers take on Batman it avoids the characterization of Batman as obsessed borderline psychotic.

That topic is still there ( I'm thinking of TDK specifically ), just at a more subtle level.

 

[Samurai8472]

So the featurette showed off the new batcave



Spoilers

Spoiler: The Cave

Basically it's cubes that rise out of the water and some scaffolding leading to Wayne Manor

The cubes house the Batcomputer and suit closet. Both are encase in a glass cabinet

Another cube serves as a landing platform for the BAT.

You'll either love it/hate it/be in different. It's certainly following Nolan's minimalist approach

 

[Admiral James Kirk]

Put in a giant penny and a dinosaur and any Batman would be proud to call that his cave.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Frankly if we're picking a comic book movie standard, I'd much rather go with The Avengers over Nolan's Batman movies.

Agreed. One major reason is re-watchability. I've seen the first two Nolan Batman movies twice, once in theater, once on disk, and haven't any real desire to see again. I've already seen Avengers four times.

 

[Warped9]

I watch Batman Begins and The Dark Knight about once a year. Perfectly rewatchable. Of course I mix it up with animated Batman.

 

[JD]

I didn't think it was possible for me to get more excited, but after watching the Featurette, I am. At this point, I think I might actually be more excited for this than I was Avengers, or at least equally excited.

 

[RoJoHen]

I can't sit through TDK in one sitting without falling asleep. I tried to watch it a couple weeks ago in preparation for the new film, and it took me 3 days to finish it. I don't find either of Nolan's Batman films rewatchable at all. To each their own, I suppose.