The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station
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I mostly understood Bane's lines up to the point he said "crashing this plane". After that, I couldn't make heads or tails of his dialogue. It was just a garbled mess.
I've said this before but I find bits of dialogue in BB and TDK hard to understand at times too. There seems to be a common element of sound mixing issues in these movies. I really hope the studio pushes to have this addressed.
The fact that virtually every article or impression, feels the need to mention whether they did or did not understand Bane's voice, has shown they've already lost the narrative. Seriously, just make it clear, and say "hey we've fixed it for the main movie, don't worry!" - problem solved.
I've said this before but I find bits of dialogue in BB and TDK hard to understand at times too. There seems to be a common element of sound mixing issues in these movies. I really hope the studio pushes to have this addressed.
The fact that virtually every article or impression, feels the need to mention whether they did or did not understand Bane's voice, has shown they've already lost the narrative. Seriously, just make it clear, and say "hey we've fixed it for the main movie, don't worry!" - problem solved.
Yeah, I couldn't understand the two guys talking as Gordon goes to the podium.
It's actually quite clever. The hype is so enormous that it's pretty much guaranteed that everybody on the planet is going to see it. The only question is, how many times will we see it? If it takes multiple viewings to understand the dialog, that's the only way left to drive ticket sales.
The downside is that pirated dls will cost WB more wealth than exists in the world.
The downside is that pirated dls will cost WB more wealth than exists in the world.
What makes you think you'll have a choice? If they can make you buy health insurance, they can make you see The Dark Knight Rises!
I've wondered about that. And...
Suppose for a moment that Nolan is, in fact, riffing heavily on Knightfall, like Bleeding Cool has reported, complete with Bane shattering Batman's back and crippling him.
I gave this some thought. If this is true, it would have to come at the end of the first act, forty minutes to an hour into the film, because the film would need to deal with that. How does Bruce cope? What happens to the Batman? What does Bane do with the Batman out of the way? Your next hour, Act Two then, would be the ramifications of the act, such as Bane tearing Gotham down, and this would end an hour later at the start of the third act as Batman returns and kicks Bane's ass.
Now, if Nolan is riffing on Knightfall, then Batman's return in the third act needs to be public, because the whole of Gotham City saw Batman get his back broken by Bane in Knightfall, and it was Jean-Paul's public trouncing of Bane that convinced the world that Batman was still there, looking out after Gotham.
Thus I wonder if the Batman that we see in the trailer, fighting Bane in daylight, is Bruce Wayne under the cowl.
I gave this some thought. If this is true, it would have to come at the end of the first act, forty minutes to an hour into the film, because the film would need to deal with that. How does Bruce cope? What happens to the Batman? What does Bane do with the Batman out of the way? Your next hour, Act Two then, would be the ramifications of the act, such as Bane tearing Gotham down, and this would end an hour later at the start of the third act as Batman returns and kicks Bane's ass.
Now, if Nolan is riffing on Knightfall, then Batman's return in the third act needs to be public, because the whole of Gotham City saw Batman get his back broken by Bane in Knightfall, and it was Jean-Paul's public trouncing of Bane that convinced the world that Batman was still there, looking out after Gotham.
Thus I wonder if the Batman that we see in the trailer, fighting Bane in daylight, is Bruce Wayne under the cowl.
Of course, if any of that speculation is true, then The Dark Knight Rises is going to have a lot of ground to cover in its 2-1/2 to 3 hour running time.
Guy- The mayor's going to dump him(Gordon) in the spring
Matthew Modine's character- Really? but he's a hero
Guy- A war hero. This is peace time
If Nolan intended to have Bane's dialogue sound garbled then I trust him on it because he's yet to fuck up in my book.
That's in the trailer, which is out there in basically DVD quality.
People are specifically referring to not understanding Bane in the prologue.
It helps to have read the transcript, but even after having done so I still had trouble understanding "they expect one of us in the wreckage, brother".
I like the notion of Batman fighting in the day time since it seems that one of Bane's goals is to make Batman uncomfortable and draw him out to confront him. Knightfall has been mentioned as a source for the script along with No Man's Land. What's interesting is in both those stories Bruce was absent from Gotham for a time.
thanks. that first line was impossible for me to make out.
I didn't have any trouble understanding it.
EDIT: I just watched the trailer again, and I had no trouble understanding any of the dialogue at all. I don't know if it was just because I knew what was being said, or if I changed something without realizing, but everything was crystal clear to me this time.
EDIT: I just watched the trailer again, and I had no trouble understanding any of the dialogue at all. I don't know if it was just because I knew what was being said, or if I changed something without realizing, but everything was crystal clear to me this time.
I've said as much.
Feedback coming is that like the early GL footage they frakked it up by having an iffy first big push trailer.
Like another said, how many times will people see it? If it's still hard to understand maybe only the once. I'm not paying another $11 to see a movie, in English, where subtitles are needed multiple times. So Joe Q Public who saw TDK 3-4 times might just say, to hell with it, once is enough.
Warners admitting they are in damage control should be enough for the "I trust Nolan-ites" to perhaps say,"What does god need with an audio remix?"
I'm no fan of GL anyway but what was iffy about the first trailer? It represented the film while plugging the humor aspect. It was no more or less iffy than any other trailer. It was, in essence, selling the movie as is.
