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The Dark Knight - Grading & Discussion

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Can't we all just be happy that there's no bat-nipples or one-line catchphrases well suited for trailer teases?

;)
 
Maybe people will think I'm going blind or something, but... I didn't think he had particularly thick eyelashes or eyeliner.

:shrug:
 
For the "realism" or the real-world believability, I have to be honest: NO superhero or comicbook hero looks like they belong in the real world. If Batman dropped the helmet, he might be able to pull it off or the X-Men might be able to pull it off, but if someone is going out to save the world they aren't going to go out in tights, capes, or masks unless they served a very specific purpose. Bad guys aren't going to go out in silly helmets or suits either.
Well, Magneto had a very good reason for his helmet (to keep Charles out). ;)

Maybe people will think I'm going blind or something, but... I didn't think he had particularly thick eyelashes or eyeliner.

:shrug:
To be honest, I never noticed either from Suddenly Susan to Lost to The Dark Knight until people were bitching about it in this thread. I paid close attention during my second viewing and I sort of see it...

Frankly, I think people just like to find things to complain about, no matter how excellent a movie (or a show) is. ;)
 
To be honest, I never noticed either from Suddenly Susan to Lost to The Dark Knight until people were bitching about it in this thread. I paid close attention during my second viewing and I sort of see it...

Frankly, I think people just like to find things to complain about, no matter how excellent a movie (or a show) is. ;)

I only brought it up because of the eyeliner-deniers, who make me giggle. Can't quite figure out why they find the idea of an actor wearing makeup worth arguing over.
 
Wow.

TDK made more money in 10 days than Indie made in 9 weeks.

LOL!
The same can be said about a lot of movies. Don't gang up Indy alone, okay?

Hell, The Dark Knight was a few hundred grand short of Iron Man which has been out longer than Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls. ;)

And both films have quite a ways to go before they catch up with Indy's worldwide box office gross, which is just shy of $770 million at last checking.
 
BTW Script Book confirms that Harvey Dent is definitely dead and the two cops he killed is still unknown. Detective Wuertz in the bar and...?
 
Except neither Batman Begins or The Dark Knight are actually gritty, realistic crime thrillers. Ninjas in mountaintop monasteries plotting the destruction of the world's major cities? You ain't gonna find that in Scorcese. Neither will you find a bank with $68 million in cash in the vault but only 3 employees and no security guards, or psychotic guys in clown make up who can mysteriously survive an explosion that seems to kill everyone else in the room (Joker's escape from MCU), or guys who can have their eyeball survive a fire that burned off all the surrounding skin - not to mention a mayor who wears more eyeliner than I did in my Goth days, and is still taken seriously. These movies have the style and tone of realistic crime thrillers, but it's not just the hero that is unrealistic.

I guess I'm saying if you can buy all the other stuff in the story, what is it about the guy in the Batsuit that's throwing you off?

Well that was kind of an extreme example I was using to make a point; certainly Begins wasn't quite as gritty and real as French Connection.

But still, even the slightly wackier plot points you mention still felt pretty grounded in the movie to me (the only one that really felt out of place was the microwave device at the end of Begins).
 
To be honest, I never noticed either from Suddenly Susan to Lost to The Dark Knight until people were bitching about it in this thread. I paid close attention during my second viewing and I sort of see it...

Frankly, I think people just like to find things to complain about, no matter how excellent a movie (or a show) is. ;)
I only brought it up because of the eyeliner-deniers, who make me giggle. Can't quite figure out why they find the idea of an actor wearing makeup worth arguing over.
I don't care if an actor wears make up or not (hell, Eddie Izzard is my favorite comedian), but I do care about the truth. If it turns out that Carbonell does wear eyeliner, then no big whoop. However, I have never seen any evidence to support that, rather that he just has thick eyelashes or something else going on.
 
Likely answer: Nestor Carbonell has thick distinctive eyelashes, its his defining feature. As his defining feature - his trademark if you will - he always wears eyeliner for emphasis.
 
^ My question is who the hell cares if he wears eyeliner or not? Most actors wear makeup of some kind.
 
^ My question is who the hell cares if he wears eyeliner or not? Most actors wear makeup of some kind.

The movie has been out for a whole 11 days; just about the point where substantive discussion descends into minutiae and nitpick territory. I was just about to point out that the tread on Batman's boots didn't look like they had the grip to do the wall scaling seen in the film.

More seriously, I usually don't care. But when his face appeared before me all of twenty feet tall, I was a bit distracted by it.
 
^ My question is who the hell cares if he wears eyeliner or not? Most actors wear makeup of some kind.
THANK YOU!

In fact, you can pretty much guarantee that anyone who appears on camera for a professional shoot of any kind wears makeup, which generally includes eyeliner/masquera.

Sometimes I think some of the folks who "contribute" to these thread must think that the footage from all the movies they watch is captured "live" by some intrepid TV news crew.

"What! You mean they're ACTING! From a SCRIPT!"

Sheesh. :lol:
 
Am I the only one who didn't notice that he had dark eyes? The think that bothered me most about him was that he reminded me of Nathan Petrelli. :p
 
Wow and easily TDK is the GODFATHER of all Comic book movies...

I am a little tired so won't go into massive detail but the movie was so well done from the pacing of the movie, the dark Joker worked out fantastic and Heath does warrant a Oscar nod. I love the twists with Gordon and Rachel plus Harvey Dent was amazing and after seeing Spiderman 3 struggle with having more than one enemy, Nolan pulled off a Joker/Two Face plot almost perfectly.

To be honest a small part of me wished that Dent/Two Face carried over into a 3rd movie with The Joker having a camo but it all worked fine and set up the great final moments with Batman truly on his own. I never thought a comic book movie could be written with such a serious and realistic tone to it and match almost any movie written in Hollywood history.

I hope there is a 3rd one since Bale did sign a 3 film package but it will depend on Nolan but will the 3rd one be called...The Caped Crusader ?cause I can't think of many titles though I think the perfect name for a 3rd & final movie would be simply...

Batman.
 
I saw The Dark Knight on Saturday afternoon - after watching Batman Begins beforehand of course - and I must say it came across quite average after all the expectations I had of it. It just felt off, for lack of a better word, after Batman Begins, with which I clicked right away three years ago - hell, BB is my favourite comic-book movie! Maybe I'll feel differently when I buy TDK on DVD at the end of the year - yes, I am that much of a BB fan - but for now it gets a big 'meh' from me. A shame, really, I hoped there would finally be a comic book movie to better the first Nolan Batman film :(
 
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