The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

[JirinPanthosa]

I doubt a lot of people will agree with me yet but I'll say it: I think Trevor Noah is at least as good as Jon Stewart. Maybe it's because I watched the same Stewart mannerisms for so long and Noah is still fresh, but I look forward to the show more now than I had in years.

 

[auntiehill]

I don't think he's as good as Johh--not by a long shot. However, I do think that Noah's quite good in his own way, and he's improving. I don't feel compelled to watch the show the way I did when John was hosting, yet, when I do watch the show, I do still enjoy it.

 

[RoJoHen]

Clips from the show tend to show up on Facebook every week, so I've been watching those. I like him so far. John Stewart did the show for so long that it's obviously going to take a new guy a while to find his footing.

 

[Borgminister]

He's eminently competent. But for me, Colbert was always the appointment viewing.

 

[Mr Light]

I was never taken with Stewart's childish delivery. It's the writing the correspondents that always mattered, not the host. So I'm fine with Trevor as long as the writing and the supporting cast is up to snuff. Seems fine so far, though I do wish they hadn't completely cleaned house of the old correspondents.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Cleaned house?

I'm guessing some of them were staying longer than they should have to be in the "Jon" Experience, but a few of them, which is a total cliche, might have jumped ship at the end because they were super pissed at being passed over for a "child" to sit behind the big desk.

 

[Mr Light]

I still think they should have made Aasif Mandvi the host. And John Oliver if he wasn't on HBO.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I doubt Aasif was offered the job, but in an earlier Daily Show thread, somebody said that Aasif Mandvi wanted to be a actor, not a journalist, which if you trim away the yucks and bullshit, is what they are. Besides Trevor and Jon's position isn't figurative leadership, they're actual producers who decide content, direction, labour, and as well as how to use the shows money, or at least they keep spending money until a nerd tells them to stop.

That's administrative, which is nothing like acting.

Aasif was fantastic in The Brink earlier this year, even though it's been canceled. "His character" got to call Jack Black an asshole, at least a hundred times.

Just a reminder.

10 years in the future... In Hot TUb Time Machine 2, Jessica Williams is host of the Daily Show, but Trevor should not consider that prophecy at all to be some kind of threat he should be worried about, should he?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Lately I had been enjoying Colbert more than Stewart (And he's killing it on the Late Show). But lately I feel Stewart had been leaning on his schtick a bit too much. Half the time he would just play Fox News clips and then do his mannerisms. I like that Noah doesn't just react to Fox News clips all the time and has a more aggressive editorial viewpoint.

But yeah, John Oliver is doing way better than any of the other Daily Show brood right now. I'm glad he got his own show with its own format.

 

[stardream]

I like Noah and Oliver's 'outsider' perspectives.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Well, at least Trevor Noah finds his stuff funny, he laughs at all of his own jokes. I personally don't find him in the same playing field as Stewart. However, my favorite moments have been some times where he has made interesting points contrasting something with his South African upbringing. Maybe some more in that vein would help to right the ship.

 

[Guy Gardener]

If he didn't write most of these jokes, is it possible he's never seen 1/2 of them before reading the Teleprompter?

 

[Greylock Crescent]

I like Noah, he's kept me entertained and (a little) informed. My one criticism is that I can help thinking that he's reading jokes written by other people. I know the same was true of Jon Stewart (a point he made sure to emphasize), but Jon had a way of making you believe he'd personally written the joke and it was part of him. Some of Noahs jokes contain obscure pop culture references that he occasionally trips over, which makes it seem like he's more of a mouthpiece than a genuine commentator.

Once he finds his own voice in the writing room, and that translates to the screen, I think that'll make for a more genuinely compelling show than it already is.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

For me the most memorable Noah moment so far is when he was contrasting the right's stance on gun control to their stance on abortion.

"They value life like comic books. It's only valuable when it's still in the package, and when you take it out, it's worthless." That I felt came straight from Noah.

I agree he laughs at his own jokes too much. But I like that better than the Stewart smarm-collar.

 

[JWPlatt]

Looks like a lot of you folks may be surprised and offer the requisite outrage, if you are a modern college student who doesn't deal well with free speech and offense, over this article:
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/13/tre...no_message_and_has_let_fox_news_off_the_hook/

Trevor Noah has cratered “The Daily Show”: He has no bite, no message — and has let Fox News off the hook
Jon Stewart created a national treasure. Noah has dulled its knife, weakened the satire, let the powerful run free

I don't watch the show so I don't have a clue about the claims pro or con. But I do enjoy this sort of catastrophic difference of opinion.

Hmm, the quote begs the question: how many of you who like Trevor also like Fox News?

 

[Professor Zoom]

Looks like a lot of you folks may be surprised and offer the requisite outrage, if you are a modern college student who doesn't deal well with free speech and offense, over this article:
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/13/tre...no_message_and_has_let_fox_news_off_the_hook/

Trevor Noah has cratered “The Daily Show”: He has no bite, no message — and has let Fox News off the hook
Jon Stewart created a national treasure. Noah has dulled its knife, weakened the satire, let the powerful run free

I don't watch the show so I don't have a clue about the claims pro or con. But I do enjoy this sort of catastrophic difference of opinion.

Hmm, the quote begs the question: how many of you who like Trevor also like Fox News?

Meh. I sorta read the article. It feels like the gist of it is: Why isn't Trevor Noah more like Jon Stewart? Wah wah wah.

So far, I like Noah. I think he's funny and he's got energy that Jon was lacking the last few months. Why isn't he going after FOX? Why should he? That was Stewart's thing. (And frankly, sometimes, it was a bit tiring.)

Really, what is the point in going after FOX? Who needs convincing? And I remember reading an article that FOX viewers are mainly old and they aren't getting any new viewers, so... who gives a shit?

The Daily Show is the Daily Show, not Hey, Let's Daily Go After FOX.

Noah is fine. I think in a year, he'll even be great.

If people wanted Jon Stewart part 2, they were always going to be disappointed. Noah should make the show his. Fuck Salon.com

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I hate Fox News. Everything Jon said about Fox News was 100% correct. It was absolutely correct the first time he said it and it was absolutely correct the 1000th time he said it. Just not quite so entertaining the 1000th time.

Trevor Noah hasn't dulled the blade. He is still fighting the 'War on Bullshit'. He's just using a different blade.

 

[ALF]

I actually prefer Trevor to John (ducks to avoid thrown objects).
It's not that I disliked John but I found his high pitched voice (and continual subvocal utterances) annoying. I prefer Trevor's voice and delivery. He is getting better.

John did a bit near very the end of the series. For the entire 2nd act of the show he only grunted and made noises in response to something. Don't recall what the piece was. At the top of the third and final act he plainly stated that it was his/the writers' intention to do at least one whole segment without actually saying anything - yeah, yeah, I saw it coming, endured it and thought it summed up exactly what I never enjoyed about his show. His stupid noises. On the final show they did a whole 8 minute clip show of just his noises. Gawd. It's like the ghost of Tim the Tool Man Tailor. "Uuughan?"

What I love about Trevor is how he handles audience reaction - when they are offended he LOVES it! Last night he made a quip about starving babies in Africa. The audience gasped and he just roared, naturally, and moved on. The polar opposite of Bill Maher - last week I thought he was going to kill his PC audience!

PS.
Total aside here, I used to watch Colbert instead of TDS, which isn't really an option anymore. But I can't handle Late Night with Steven Colbert. It's got the strangest vibe. It moves so quickly and I can't get used to Colbert not doing his character but still being basically almost exactly the same. So weird. The bite is gone - I've watched about 4 or 5 of his new shows but I can't watch it anymore.

 

[Beagleman]

I agree, I can't get into Colbert and that makes me sad...

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Interesting, I find Colbert the most entertaining thing on network late night in years. I've kind of lost interest in Willmore but I sometimes switch over to @Midnight.

I would agree he focuses a little more on stars than politics most of the time now, but that's to be expected on CBS. He had a fantastic segment with Carol Burnett and a hilarious bit with Tom Hanks.

But John Oliver kicks all their asses, of course. John Oliver can make bridge maintenance interesting.