Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread

[The Wormhole]

I get the feeling that most Jedi came from families who thought it was a better life for them.

I remember there was a Legends novel about a Jedi knight who went into hiding after Order 66 and eventually, rather coincidentally, reunited with his birth mother, who we found out had regrets and second thoughts about handing her child over to the Jedi. She was then surprised to find out from him that almost all parents voluntarily had their children over to the Jedi because they like the bragging rights of telling others "my baby is going to become a Jedi."

We do know in Disney canon, Count Dooku's family found out about his Force abilities while he was still an infant and left him outside their manor with a note attached that said something like "Jedi Property."

 

[Nerys Myk]

Young queens and Jedi fits in with George thinking of Star Wars as being for kids. Young Adult fiction is full teen and preteen protagonists: Narnia, Harry Potter, His Dark Materials, the Hunger Games, The Dark Is Rising and so forth. Some of whom are "Chosen Ones" and royalty. One can also draw parallels between Hogwarts and the Jedi Academy, where young people are taught to manipulate powerful forces, some of which may lead down a dark path. And of course in HP you have kids leading the fight against the forces of darkness.

 

[Set Harth]

We do know in Disney canon, Count Dooku's family found out about his Force abilities while he was still an infant and left him outside their manor with a note attached that said something like "Jedi Property."

damn

 

[Nerys Myk]

No wonder he went dark.

 

[cultcross]

My controversial opinion. The jedi were dangrous and evil.

Well then you are lost!

 

[Hugo Rune]

We do that now, and it's not called "dangerous and evil", it's received with thunderous applause.

Yeah, the Evangelical Mega Churches have got it down pat

 

[Set Harth]

No wonder he went dark.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID

 

[fireproof78]

do know in Disney canon, Count Dooku's family found out about his Force abilities while he was still an infant and left him outside their manor with a note attached that said something like "Jedi Property."

Explains a lot.

 

[JD]

I don't really see the Jedi being as bad as the majority of fans seem to think they are. They did spend thousands of years doing a lot of good in universe, helping and protecting people. They were not perfect, and had lost their way by the time of the prequels, but they good they had been doing the millennia before that more than outweighs the mistakes they made in their last few decades.
I admit that I don't necessarily agree with their no attachments rule, but that's apparently a big part of why start with younglings so young, and the two times we've seen where they went against that, Anakin and Osha, both ended in disaster. So maybe it does make a certain amount of sense after all.
But then again, it was Anakin's love for his son, that turned him back to the light, so I guess arguments on both sides of the issue. And I do have to wonder if what happened with Anakin could have been prevented if he could have seen his mother after he left, and been open about his relationship with Padme.

 

[cooleddie74]

Senator Bail Organa in a screencap from an upcoming episode of Andor.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Why did they recast him?

 

[cooleddie74]

Jimmy Smits was unavailable due to his schedule.

 

[KennyB]

Jimmy Smits was unavailable due to his schedule.

Seeeeee they don't need that fancy CGI mo-cap......just recast.

 

[Set Harth]

Jimmy Smits was unavailable due to his schedule.

The demand for the Smits exceeds the supply.

 

[The Wormhole]

[Nonsensical wall of text about how a Jimmy Smits deep fake would have been preferred which just makes me sound like an ignorant fool with an axe to grind against Benjamin Bratt]

 

[Set Harth]

They may take our Ray Stevenson deepfake, they may take our Jimmy Smits deepfake, but they... will never take... OUR FREEDOM!!!!

*touches earpiece*

This just in, it turns out they did in fact take our freedom.

 

[fireproof78]

[Nonsensical wall of text about how a Jimmy Smits deep fake would have been preferred which just makes me sound like an ignorant fool with an axe to grind against Benjamin Bratt]

Clearly they just hate STAR WARS.

 

[Campe]

Senator Bail Organa in a screencap from an upcoming episode of Andor.

While I'm definitely sad that Smits is not returning, Bratt looks great. I look forward to seeing what he can do with the part moreso than the thirty seconds we saw in episode 6.

 

[cooleddie74]

I like how they've progressively added grey to Bail's hair color since Episode III to show how close we're getting to the events of the original film and his death. He still has dark hair in Obi-Wan Kenobi but by Andor it's got some grey in it and in Rogue One that grey has spread.

 

[suarezguy]

It's almost as if "maybe the Jedi have lost their way" was the whole point of the prequels.

Lucas seemed to think they were still great/generally right, with their general philosophy especially about starting training from so on, though to present or at least imply that their main flaw was being too tied to, backing of the government without being skeptical enough of it, parts of it.

I admit that I don't necessarily agree with their no attachments rule, but that's apparently a big part of why start with younglings so young, and the two times we've seen where they went against that, Anakin and Osha, both ended in disaster. So maybe it does make a certain amount of sense after all.
But then again, it was Anakin's love for his son, that turned him back to the light, so I guess arguments on both sides of the issue. And I do have to wonder if what happened with Anakin could have been prevented if he could have seen his mother after he left, and been open about his relationship with Padme.

I do wonder if to some degree Lucas regrets he didn't direct the last two films of the OT and so even with doing his story they probably have different tones than he would have preferred.

I do dislike the implications from II and III that Padme having relationship with a Jedi, to where he left the group, would be considered incredibly scandalous to where her political career/service would be over.