Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread
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I agree about "Obi-Wan Kenobi" and "The Acolyte". I thought "Boba Fett" was okay. I really enjoyed the finale, but the addition of the 2 Mandalorian episodes felt off putting to me.
I was fine with adding Djarin in, but where Boba Fett really went off kilter for me was that — after the really rather wonderful stuff of him joining the Tuskens, which would have been inconceivable in 1977, the show just threw all that away for a cheap revenge motivation. I would have been really fine with a continuing show about Boba Fett, Cultural Convert, probably still back in “human civilization” but now with a different take on things (by which I mean something other than “I’ll be a crime lord by preventing crimes! Somehow.”).
EDIT: Actually, here’s a controversial opinion: While I enjoy Ahsoka well enough, that’s pretty much just because it’s Star Wars. Everybody seems to talk so slowly, and not say or explain things that they really ought to in a given conversation. And Dawson’s Ahsoka doesn’t feel like the same character grown up and changed a bit by life; she feels like a different character entirely. (This might just be subjective, but Old Luke in TLJ still seemed like the same guy, but battered by age and failure. Adult Ahsoka seems like some serene Jedi who floated in from somewhere, with not a trace of her original personality.).
Plus, I don’t think it’s a good idea to name your show after one character, but have the plot mainly be about another (Sabine) instead. (That’s not to say I don’t like Sabine; I do.)
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That was one of my issues with "Andor".
She felt a lot more closer to Rebels than Clone Wars. I really loved Ahsoka in the World Between Worlds. That made the show for me. That and Ezra, which surprised me to no end.
See, I thought Fett was great and the revenge plot was fueled in part by feeling discarded by the previous crime lords. So, he tried to install a sense of honor (something Fett always supposedly had, even before PT and such) but also had to wrestle with his past coming back to haunt him, both with killers going after him, people seeking power, or fear how he was raised.
I don't think it's a simple revenge plot. And I think the Mandalorian's inclusion ground that plot to a halt.
Interesting—how so? I mean, Andor was very much about Andor…
Of course—but rarely to the point that you can’t spot the person they were in the person they are now, you know.
I still see Ahsoka in her.
Have you watched Rebels? Because you see the transition start to happen there.
I really don't get how people don't understand character arcs and the passage of time. Do people really expect 47-year-old Ahsoka to have the same playful optimism and cockiness as her 14-year-old self before she had seen the horrors of war and the dark side? Are you the same person you were 30 years ago? The last time we saw her in Rebels was right after she discovered that her master had become one of the most evil and despicable Dark Lords to ever curse the galaxy. How is that not going to affect one's outlook on their own legacy and how they approach things moving forward? How does that not scare the shit out of someone?
So, when we catch up to Ahsoka in the Mandalorian, she is more subdued in her approach, as she is still struggling with the revelations about Anakin and how they apply to her (and Rosario Dawson absolutely nailed Ahsoka's smirky grin here, so it wasn't all doom and gloom with her). We first see this with her interactions with Grogu and we learn more about that struggle when we learn about Sabine's first failed apprenticeship.
But the whole point of the World Between Worlds sequence was for Ahsoka to let go of those fears and doubts and to move forward in her own journey rather than be held back by Anakin's. Character arc complete.
And we do see a more hopeful and optimistic Ahsoka post WBW. Is she ever going to be that cocky and optimistic 16-year-old that we first met in the Clone Wars movie? Of course not. She has seen and done too much. Life happened, as it does to all of us. But she is still Ahsoka.
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Depends on traumatic events that occurred.
People understand them very well, thank you. Of course people change — but I guarantee you, you may not be the same person you were thirty years ago, but traces of that kid are in there, and probably recognizable to someone who knew you way back then. People evolve, and are warped away from who they used to be, but not into entirely different personalities.
I imagine we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this.
The last time we saw her in Rebels was at the end of the finale, when she showed up to get Sabine. The last time we saw her before that was in the WBW with Ezra.
Semantics. That was a flash forward that we actually saw in the Ahsoka show. I'm talking about the Rebels era.
People can be warped towards an entirely different personality with trauma and experiencing severe loss. I'd say Ahsoka would count.
I can see the flaws in all three, fairly easily. But I still super enjoyed them all. I love Star Wars and I love that universe. Just because Episodes IV & V are regarded as some of the greatest things ever made, doesn't mean literally everything else in the franchise needs be held up to those same standards. I don't get that way of thinking at all.
Literally everything I watch doesn't have to be 10/10 the most amazing thing I've ever seen
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