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Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread
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Abrams won me over with The Rise of Skywalker, which I'll now and forever champion as not only the best film in the Skywalker Saga overall but also the best film of the Sequel Trilogy.
TROS is a piece of shit movie that I only own on physical media because I wanted the complete collection of movies, and even then I bought it almost a year after release on a discount. I haven't even opened the case, I did remove the plastic though.
I will never watch it again.
I will never watch it again.
Think about all the weight on his shoulders left to him by Yoda and Obi-Wan, with rebuilding the Jedi order from scratch. I'd get freaked out too if I thought that would suddenly come to an end.
*checks the thread. *Now that's what i call a controversial opinion!!
Well, it's in the right place.
Considering how Luke reacted to Vader threatening to take Leia as his apprentice in RotJ, I can see how he'd react defensively (or offensively) to a vision of Kylo Ren stabbing Han, blasting Leia into space, slashing that old guy, destroying the Hosnian system, and so on.
I never saw Luke's mistake, and that's what it was-- a mistake, as being a moment of doubt. I saw it as a moment of fear. Mind numbing, soul crushing, existential, visceral terror. And fear is the first step towards the dark side.
I imagine he saw what drove Baylan Skol over the edge. The inevitability of it all. The cycle repeating, again and again and again. And he saw his part in perpetuating it.
In that moment of primal, defensive fear he ignited his lightsaber. Then the moment passed, but the damage had already been done. I thought it was a very human moment.
And remember, what we know of that moment was told through conflicting recollections of the two people who were there. Very Rashomon. The truth of that moment is likely somewhere in the middle.
I imagine he saw what drove Baylan Skol over the edge. The inevitability of it all. The cycle repeating, again and again and again. And he saw his part in perpetuating it.
In that moment of primal, defensive fear he ignited his lightsaber. Then the moment passed, but the damage had already been done. I thought it was a very human moment.
And remember, what we know of that moment was told through conflicting recollections of the two people who were there. Very Rashomon. The truth of that moment is likely somewhere in the middle.
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IIRC, isn't there a line in Clone Wars where Rex said he wasn't in the first battle at Geonosis? That would make inserting him into AOTC a bit difficult.
The original trilogy were the only good SWs films. I saw the prequel in the theaters with anticipation and was horribly disappointed. I even gave the following films a try of the prequels. I saw the sequels as well with the original cast. Basically, the Star Wars version of 'So Very Tired' and didn't like it. I gave them an honest try. 
Controversial opinion: Star Wars should always first and foremost be fun. Star Trek can, and often should, be interesting first and fun second, because it's a philosophical adventure franchise at its core. Star Wars, however, is a fantasy fairy tale. It can absolutely aspire to be interesting as well as fun at times, as with Andor: that series is interesting because of how thoroughly it examines and explains how fascist systems are built and maintained, but it's always first and foremost fun, because it's a survival tale. Andor, Mon Mothma, and the rest may live in wildly different circumstances, but they're all a slip-up or careless mistake away from being arrested and killed at all times. That kind of fun may appeal to adults much more than children, but it's still fun. (I'm quite certain Tony Gilroy didn't write Andor as nail-bitingly tense, even in quiet scenes between Mothma and her husband, by accident.)
And, that's really the core problem of Kennedy's whole SW tenure, IMO. She hired Rian Johnson, who wrote a script that, whether or not one loves it and praises its philosophical meta-analyses of the franchise as a whole, just wasn't fun. She approved a story arc for TBoBF that was acutely short on fun. Obi-Wan Kenobi was pretty much not fun by definition, due to focusing on a grieving recluse from the galaxy, but its few attempts to be fun here and there were downright embarrassing. Mando S3 and Ahsoka sound to me like exercises in boredom, courtesy of Filoni being more interested in building out lore than crafting compelling characters. (How the f*** can you have Thrawn be a major character, and the most sinister thing he does for a whole season is load cargo and let the heroes go?!) And now we have The Acolyte, which sounds muddled, slowly paced, and generally not very fun. (Say what one likes about Abrams, and I'll readily say he's a hack, but TRoS is at least a movie that's trying its best to entertain.)
What Star Wars desperately needs is a leader and team dedicated to making fun and thrilling adventure stories above all. Only then will it start to dig its way out of its spiral of fails.
And, that's really the core problem of Kennedy's whole SW tenure, IMO. She hired Rian Johnson, who wrote a script that, whether or not one loves it and praises its philosophical meta-analyses of the franchise as a whole, just wasn't fun. She approved a story arc for TBoBF that was acutely short on fun. Obi-Wan Kenobi was pretty much not fun by definition, due to focusing on a grieving recluse from the galaxy, but its few attempts to be fun here and there were downright embarrassing. Mando S3 and Ahsoka sound to me like exercises in boredom, courtesy of Filoni being more interested in building out lore than crafting compelling characters. (How the f*** can you have Thrawn be a major character, and the most sinister thing he does for a whole season is load cargo and let the heroes go?!) And now we have The Acolyte, which sounds muddled, slowly paced, and generally not very fun. (Say what one likes about Abrams, and I'll readily say he's a hack, but TRoS is at least a movie that's trying its best to entertain.)
What Star Wars desperately needs is a leader and team dedicated to making fun and thrilling adventure stories above all. Only then will it start to dig its way out of its spiral of fails.
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Controversial opinion -- I don't have the slightest problem with the current state of Star Wars.
Define fun.
I had fun with Book of Boba Fett. I had fun with Acolyte in a mystery sense. Reminded me of novels I read.
Mandalorian was super fun, especially Season 3.
I had fun with Book of Boba Fett. I had fun with Acolyte in a mystery sense. Reminded me of novels I read.
Mandalorian was super fun, especially Season 3.
Same.
I see more boxing in, and an attitude that would condemn Empire Strikes Back for being too dark if released today.
Me too. While I haven't loved it all, I've at least enjoyed pretty much everything Star Wars that's been released the last few years.
I don't think you know what the word "fun" means.
Andor is the least fun Star Wars anything I ever watched. To be fair, that's by design. Part of why it doesn't feel Star Wars to me. It doesn't have that fun, pulpy, swashbuckling adventure to it. It's plodding world-building. Interesting? Maybe. Well written, acted and produced? Absolutely. Entertaining? To many, I can see that, sure. But fun? Certainly not.
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