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Spoilers The clip from Envoys shows what is wrong with Lower Decks

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See, they want to make spin on the "malevolent energy creature", but in the practice they do very little with the parody potential. Also, they make Mariner wish for... Totally generic thing, where they could make either something funny in general or some more clever ST reference. Banana - hot was amusing. This one isn´t.
 
:shrug: I don't know, I think that was pretty funny all around. I'm not lying on the floor or anything, but I smiled the whole time through.

My favorite bit is that line from Mariner: ”See if we can get a cute lieutenant to argue with me.” :lol:

I'm actually kinda glad it's not just a Trek parody all the time. That Mariner, given the chance to wish for anything, wishes for a piece of new Starfleet equipment rings truer to these characters than had she wished for something that was a more obvious Trek pun. Do you have something in mind you would have found funnier?
 
Yeah, I chuckled the whole time, and I loved how the being was ultimately rendered a nonthreat. I don't see how an outrageous request or a more Trek reference would make it funnier. :shrug:

Get more Trek reference it becomes more self-referential and "small universe. Get more outlandish and accusations of parody become all the more rampant. Mariner has been shown to love the newest tech so it fits right in with her character and Tendi jumps right aboard. It's just quick fun.
 
I thought that was pretty funny, maybe not laugh out loud, but fun enough
 
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the opening of the episode. It just feels like one of those one off scenes that would be at the start of a show.
 
I can see it from both sides. On the one hand, this scene, and LDS thus far, would be charming as a free, ad-supported webisode. On the other hand, LDS doesn't seem either funny enough as a comedy, or anything-else enough to qualify as a dramedy or science-fiction adventure that one would be happy to pay for.

But here's the qualifier- as Mr. McMahan rightly indicated, he's "one of us." Mr. Kurtzman is not "one of us." Now to be clear, those who were not "one of us" contributed mightily to the franchise in the past, e.g. Mr. Meyer or Mr. Piller... but they had a "one of us" looking over them in various guises and incarnations.

This is a longwinded way of saying, whatever shortcomings of LDS, my pagh will be aligned with Mr. McMahan and will be cheering him towards potential excellence...
 
Piller never really had "one of us" looking over his shoulder as you put it - nor did Meyer. Piller came on to TNG at a time when Roddenberry's health was in decline and his involvement minimal; he worked with Piller and part of his brief was informally to "stand up to Gene" in a number of ways. Meyer never did work for Roddenberry at all, who had been sidelined after TWOK, and their interaction to the extent that it occurred was more contentious than not. He went his own way.

LD will do fine on All Access because their subscriber success has been based on feeding the appetites of a few million hard core fans.
 
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