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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

I should catch some Hitchcock films sometime. I saw Rear Window years back.
Yeah, there's a few I still haven't managed to see somehow.

The only thing I know about this one is indirect exposure to the song.
Right, I do know the song.

The version I saw back in the day on another talk show, he followed up the car-cranking with Katherine speaking in the same cadence: "Damn...thing...won't...start..."
:rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"Secret Weapon"
Originally aired November 25, 1966
MeTV said:
In an Iron Curtain country, Tony and Doug pose as scientists to investigate a primitive enemy time tunnel in 1956.

Um, they are scientists, and they've got published papers to prove it! The alleged posers land on a backlot distinguished by Cyrillic signage and unfriendly soldiers marching through, figuring that they're in Southeast Europe, and soon find a paper indicating that it's June 16, 1956. A glowing, brick-shaped object appears before them that Doug recognizes as a probe TT was working on, meant to deliver messages, but it sends painful electrical current through Tony when he grabs it. It disappears, another appears, and it explodes. Tony wonders why TT doesn't use voice contact--I think the first time that it's come up since it was first used.

The probe has been sent back at the behest of General Parker of Central Intelligence (Russell Conway). After another failed attempt in which the brick-probe explodes, the third time's the charm, the brick-like casing melting to reveal a written message inside. It instructs the guys to "meet Alexis" and gives them an address. They proceed to that destination to find the contact in question (Gregory Gay), who has instructions to help them get into something called Project A-13, and gives them a communicator that sounds like the Batphone ring. When the guys enter the secret location, posing as defecting scientists, they find something that looks very much like a slightly less far-along TT control room.

They're greeted in a friendly manner by Prof. Anton Biraki (Nehemiah Persoff), who needs skilled personnel to make a test trip through his tunnel. Less than friendly is Colonel Hruda (Michael Ansara), who doesn't trust defectors. Back in '68, the TT crew are surprised by the rival tunnel, and anxious to get the guys out of danger. Kirk calls Parker for guidance and is told that he needs all the information the guys can get on Biraki and his tunnel...because, we find out, Biraki '68 is in town making an overture to Parker about his time research.

Biraki '56 shows the guys his transparent manned capsule, which subs for the radiation bath. Doug tells Tony that there were early experiments with a capsule approach that proved to be disastrous. Not wanting to risk it, they try to escape but are caught. Biraki smooths things over with Hruda and tries to convince his guinea pigs that his capsule will work. They decide that it's time to call Alexei for help, so Tony pulls the Portable Bat-Transmitter out of his sock. But the TT crew see that Alexei, who's on-site, is actually working for Hruda to set a trap for the actual American agents that Tony and Doug are posing as, causing Kirk to call Parker with an update.

The guys soon learn this themselves, while Biraki doesn't care if they're spies, as they have the knowledge to operate the capsule, and convinces Hruda to let them proceed with the experiment. In '68, pointed questions from Parker and his aide, McDonnell (Kevin Hagen), cause Biraki to reveal that he knew Alexei was a double agent and that he and the guys--whose true identities he doesn't know--died in an accident. Back in '56, as the guys sit in the capsule during the countdown, Doug tells the observing TT crew the exact temporal coordinates of when they're being sent to--twenty years earlier, June 16, 1936. But Biraki's tunnel interferes with their attempt to pull the guys out, putting the capsule in a time limbo, which has negative physical effects on the guys.

The capsule is caught in a tug of war between the two tunnels, but eventually reappears in Biraki's tunnel, with the guys unconscious. As they recover in a cell, they deduce that Biraki's tunnel doesn't work and it was their Tunnel that pulled them into time; and that the vital component Biraki's missing is the radiation bath (which is supposed to just be for tracking the travelers). Unfortunately, their cell is bugged and Biraki goes in to question them about the radiation bath while revealing his true colors--an America-hating fanatic who's driven to perfect his time mechanism and make his country masters of the world! (I knew this guy was being way too nice for a character played by Nehemiah Persoff.) Kirk phones another update to Parker even while Biraki '68 is giving the general and McDonnell a snowjob. Parker deduces that Biraki is trying to gain access to the American tunnel and has him followed.

The guys agree to set Biraki '56 up with radiation bath tech, using the opportunity to rig up his equipment to cause complex-shaking feedback and make a run for it while everyone's off balance. TT watches as Biraki '56 swears to get even with the American scientists. Biraki '68 is subsequently placed under arrest for espionage, and learns that the guys survived. In the backlot alley outside the Eastern complex, Tony and Doug are pulled out.

Jerry's in this one, though he doesn't do anything summary-worthy. This was a pretty interesting use of cross-play between the two time periods.



The Invaders
"The Betrayed"
Originally aired March 28, 1967
Frndly said:
The invaders blackmail David's girlfriend to retrieve a stolen computer tape.

The teaser unusually begins with an opening narration, in addition to the usual one after the credits.
The QM Narrator said:
Three months ago, David Vincent had come to the Carver oil fields in Houston. There had been reports of unexplained lights, and that same night, two watchmen had been found dead. The verdict in both cases: cerebral hemorrhage. [David sees a saucer landing.] Now, suddenly, after endless nights of vigil in the Carver fields, David has found proof that the invaders are here.
David snaps pictures as the saucer lands behind a railroad tank car and several thems get out and load into a truck. (If the fate of David's film was mentioned, I didn't catch it.) After the saucer takes off, he checks out the car, finding a world map marked by lights and a computer tape, which he takes. Alerted by David accidentally activating a telescoping antenna, one of them enters the car and a struggle ensues in which the alien too easily disintegrates from having his neck pressed against the rung of the ladder to the top hatch.

The more-chatty-than-usual QM Narrator said:
David Vincent has found proof that the invaders are here. Minutes after dawn, he seeks out Simon Carver, owner of the enormously successful Carver Oil Company. Now, finally, three months of waiting and watching are about to pay off.
Carver (Ed Begley [Sr.]), irate at being woken at 5 in the morning, seems to already be fed up with David's kooky behavior as David pleads with him to come see the tank car for himself. Much friendlier is his daughter Susan (Laura Devon), already embedded as David's GOTF. We also meet Evelyn Bowers (Nancy Wickwire), Carver's secretary. Carver reluctantly summons sheriffs to accompany them to the site, but they find an ordinary rail car, which David insists isn't the same one.

David takes the tape to cryptography expert Neal Taft (Norman Fell), now running an electronics school after falling out favor with NASA and academia for being a rule-breaking nonconformist. David warns him of the danger if anyone finds out about the tape. Back at his room, David is pounced by a couple of them (one played by Bill Fletcher), and interrogated with the Spinning Crystal Interrogation Device (SCID), which forces David to give them Taft's name.
When Susan finds him beat up, she's relieved he's not seeing another girl and expresses her love for him. Then Evelyn turns out to be one of them, blackmailing her by threatening to expose a business scandal that would endanger her father's cardiac health.

David makes a rendezvous to warn Taft, who's connected what he's found on the tape to NASA homing devices for spacecraft. Susan questions her father about Arnold Mayer, who killed himself after Carver stole a technique from him. His reaction supporting Evelyn's accusation, Susan reluctantly cooperates with her, arranging a date with David at a restaurant at which she tries to learn where the tape is. When David gets a call to meet Taft's brother Joey, Susan relays the details she overheard to Evelyn. They beat up Joey Taft (Victor Brandt) before David arrives.

Carver confesses to stealing Mayer's formula, but wants to know how Susan knew about it. She tells him that she made a deal with the blackmailers. At the hospital with Neal, David shares his theory that they want to destroy Earth's fuel supplies and learns that David's an alien invasion conspiracist.
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Neal helps David to realize that Susan may have tipped them off before learning that his brother has died. When David goes to confront Susan, she tries to break up with him. He catches that she knew Taft's name and informs her that the man he went to see is dead.

After Neal confirms that the oil field landing matches coordinates found on the tape, David tries to convince him to call in the guys at NASA who fired him. Accompanied by the alien goon duo, Evelyn directly threatens her and her father's lives, wanting her to set a trap for David. Susan goes to David, telling him that they have something big planned for that night. He tells her to play along and tell them where the tape is. Evelyn & co. catch Susan while she's supposed to be in hiding but is trying to warn her father. They take her to the tank car, which is being staked out by David and Neal, and subject her to Crystal Them Persuasion and learn that Vincent and Taft are onto them. The alien in charge (Ivan Bonar) has their approaching ship turn back, disintegrates Evelyn for her failure, and sets the tank car to self-destruct. David and Neal pull Susan out before it goes up in the usual red glow. Outside, Susan dies in David's arms as the NASA cars approach.

In the Epilog, David has a moment of reconciliation with Susan's grieving father, following which Neal drives him to the airport.
The QM Narrator said:
A girl's life. For David Vincent, a very personal reason why the war must go on...why the world must be alerted...why the invader must be destroyed.


 
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Um, they are scientists, and they've got published papers to prove it!
They're posing as different scientists. Doug is posing as Tony and Tony is posing as Doug.

The alleged posers land on a backlot distinguished by Cyrillic signage
I guess the UT doesn't apply to written language. :rommie:

a paper indicating that it's June 16, 1956
This seems like the second-closest they've been to their own time. Maybe they can get the TT to send them back to five minutes in the past and then they really wouldn't have to return.

A glowing, brick-shaped object appears before them that Doug recognizes as a probe TT was working on, meant to deliver messages, but it sends painful electrical current through Tony when he grabs it. It disappears, another appears, and it explodes. Tony wonders why TT doesn't use voice contact--I think the first time that it's come up since it was first used.
This is interesting. Did they answer the question about the lack of voice contact?

After another failed attempt in which the brick-probe explodes, the third time's the charm, the brick-like casing melting to reveal a written message inside.
"Your mission, should you choose to accept it...."

It instructs the guys to "meet Alexis" and gives them an address.
I think this is the first time they've been given an actual mission. I wonder if it will happen again. It's kind of an interesting expansion of the premise.

they find something that looks very much like a slightly less far-along TT control room.
That sounds cool.

Prof. Anton Biraki (Nehemiah Persoff)
A popular character actor in this timeline.

Colonel Hruda (Michael Ansara)
He makes evil cool. Which was apparently appealing to Barbara Eden.

who doesn't trust defectors.
Fair.

ack in '68, the TT crew are surprised by the rival tunnel, and anxious to get the guys out of danger.
"Does anybody have any jewelry we can send back?"

Kirk calls Parker for guidance and is told that he needs all the information the guys can get on Biraki and his tunnel...because, we find out, Biraki '68 is in town making an overture to Parker about his time research.
Verrry interesting, although highly unlikely considering the random nature of the time leaps.

Biraki '56 shows the guys his transparent manned capsule, which subs for the radiation bath.
Nice touch.

Biraki smooths things over with Hruda and tries to convince his guinea pigs that his capsule will work.
"Any problems, we'll go back and stop you from going."

But the TT crew see that Alexei, who's on-site, is actually working for Hruda to set a trap for the actual American agents that Tony and Doug are posing as, causing Kirk to call Parker with an update.
This reminds me of Asimov's "The Dead Past." If Tunnelvision can see anywhere in the world and one minute ago counts as the past, they can essentially spy on anyone anywhere in real time.

he knew Alexei was a double agent and that he and the guys--whose true identities he doesn't know--died in an accident.
So Biraki remembers an alternate future in the past.
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Biraki's tunnel interferes with their attempt to pull the guys out, putting the capsule in a time limbo, which has negative physical effects on the guys.
Freaky.

the vital component Biraki's missing is the radiation bath (which is supposed to just be for tracking the travelers)
It must act as an anchor, allowing them to be tracked.

an America-hating fanatic who's driven to perfect his time mechanism and make his country masters of the world! (I knew this guy was being way too nice for a character played by Nehemiah Persoff.)
He's an Evil Leaper!

This was a pretty interesting use of cross-play between the two time periods.
By far the most interesting episode so far. I hope they do more in this vein.

(If the fate of David's film was mentioned, I didn't catch it.)
He sold them to National Enquirer. That's how he's supporting himself.

a struggle ensues in which the alien too easily disintegrates from having his neck pressed against the rung of the ladder to the top hatch.
And that guy in the other episode didn't disintegrate at all. Apparently there's a wide spectrum of sensitivity among the Thems.

David pleads with him to come see the tank car for himself
David should know better by now.

Much friendlier is his daughter Susan (Laura Devon), already embedded as David's GOTF.
So basically David seduced Susan to get to Carver. :rommie:

cryptography expert Neal Taft (Norman Fell)
World's Most Famous Landlord.

David warns him of the danger if anyone finds out about the tape.
"I've put your life in mortal danger. I owe you one."

Nice set of pictures.

When Susan finds him beat up, she's relieved he's not seeing another girl and expresses her love for him.
Don't be hasty. Some girls are pretty good at beating guys up. :rommie:

When David gets a call to meet Taft's brother Joey
How does Joey figure into all this?

"I'm evicting all of Them!"

When David goes to confront Susan, she tries to break up with him.
"Trust is vital in a relationship, David!"

After Neal confirms that the oil field landing matches coordinates found on the tape, David tries to convince him to call in the guys at NASA who fired him.
So They are going to destroy all the oil fields in the world one at a time by somehow using NASA homing technology?

velyn directly threatens her and her father's lives, wanting her to set a trap for David.
They've already had David umpteen times. :rommie:

Susan goes to David, telling him that they have something big planned for that night.
"Black tie!"

He tells her to play along and tell them where the tape is.
I don't even understand why they need the tape. Don't Thems make backups?

Crystal Them Persuasion
Nice. :rommie:

The alien in charge (Ivan Bonar) has their approaching ship turn back, disintegrates Evelyn for her failure, and sets the tank car to self-destruct.
But... but... but....

David and Neal pull Susan out before it goes up in the usual red glow. Outside, Susan dies in David's arms as the NASA cars approach.
She died from the effects of the Crystal Them Persuasion or something to do with the self-destruct? Or just a guilty conscience?

In the Epilog, David has a moment of reconciliation with Susan's grieving father, following which Neal drives him to the airport.
Carver lost his daughter and Taft lost his brother-- you'd think they'd want to take turns kicking David around the room. :rommie:
 
They're posing as different scientists. Doug is posing as Tony and Tony is posing as Doug.
Mind-switch episode!

I guess the UT doesn't apply to written language. :rommie:
IMDb pointed out that it was all gibberish anyway. And the guys were able to read the local paper.

This seems like the second-closest they've been to their own time. Maybe they can get the TT to send them back to five minutes in the past and then they really wouldn't have to return.
The problem being that they don't have any control over where they bump the guys to.

This is interesting. Did they answer the question about the lack of voice contact?
I think it had to do with the confidentiality of the message.

That sounds cool.
And cheap!

"Does anybody have any jewelry we can send back?"
Yeah, why don't they just keep doing that?

Verrry interesting, although highly unlikely considering the random nature of the time leaps.
Sometime the Tunnel seems to have a mind of its own. We see an example of this in the next episode, when TT's fix goes to a related event years after the time Tony and Doug are in as a sort of clue.

Nice touch.
The capsule:

This reminds me of Asimov's "The Dead Past." If Tunnelvision can see anywhere in the world and one minute ago counts as the past, they can essentially spy on anyone anywhere in real time.
I think they tend to be limited to what they have a fix on (mainly the guys), but I suppose they could send back inanimate objects to when they wanted.

So Biraki remembers an alternate future in the past.
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The gist was that he only thought they'd died, as a fake-out for us and the TT crew.

He sold them to National Enquirer. That's how he's supporting himself.
Ha, could be!

And that guy in the other episode didn't disintegrate at all. Apparently there's a wide spectrum of sensitivity among the Thems.
That's why the guy with ripped fake flesh stood out so bad...there'd never been any hint of anything like that until then. And I wouldn't be surprised if it never popped up again.

World's Most Famous Landlord.
Fred Mertz would like a word.

How does Joey figure into all this?
Just being used as a go-between as a precaution against Neal being found, I think.

So They are going to destroy all the oil fields in the world one at a time by somehow using NASA homing technology?
I think it was their homing tech, which they were using to direct their saucer, but it was similar enough for Neal to recognize it.

I don't even understand why they need the tape. Don't Thems make backups?
Good question. Could be they just wanted to get it out of human hands because it was evidence and possibly had other vital info on it.

:D

But... but... but....
SOP. Roll with the formula.

She died from the effects of the Crystal Them Persuasion or something to do with the self-destruct? Or just a guilty conscience?
I really wasn't clear. The interior of the tank car was looking pretty hazy as it was preparing to self-destruct, so there could have been harmful gases, radiation, or cellular disruption involved. Or maybe the weak heart runs in the family.

Carver lost his daughter and Taft lost his brother-- you'd think they'd want to take turns kicking David around the room. :rommie:
Taft at least knows the truth...and Carver seemed less skeptical at the end.
 
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Mind-switch episode!
Sure, why not? Pretty much everybody does those. :rommie:

IMDb pointed out that it was all gibberish anyway. And the guys were able to read the local paper.
They're in the same universe as Mission: Impossible.

The problem being that they don't have any control over where they bump the guys to.
Yeah, true. But if they did end up five minutes in the past, they could have called it a day. And the guys would have been there to give themselves advice through all of their adventures.

I think it had to do with the confidentiality of the message.
Ah, I see.

And cheap!
That gets the Irwin stamp of approval.

Yeah, why don't they just keep doing that?
No more interesting family heirlooms. :rommie:

Sometime the Tunnel seems to have a mind of its own. We see an example of this in the next episode, when TT's fix goes to a related event years after the time Tony and Doug are in as a sort of clue.
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That's pretty nice... until it tumbles out of the vortex and smashes to bits. :rommie:

I think they tend to be limited to what they have a fix on (mainly the guys), but I suppose they could send back inanimate objects to when they wanted.
Yeah, all they'd need is a supply of loose change. No wonder the CIA is interested.

The gist was that he only thought they'd died, as a fake-out for us and the TT crew.
Oh, I thought they changed the outcome.

Fred Mertz would like a word.
Sounds like a job for MeTV: The World's Most Famous Landlord Contest.

I think it was their homing tech, which they were using to direct their saucer, but it was similar enough for Neal to recognize it.
Ah, okay.

Good question. Could be they just wanted to get it out of human hands because it was evidence and possibly had other vital info on it.
Makes sense, I guess.

SOP. Roll with the formula.
True. :rommie:
 
50 Years Ago This Week


August 17
  • Two auto racing legends were fatally injured on the same day, thousands of miles apart. Tiny Lund, who had won the 1963 Daytona 500, was killed in a six car pileup while competing in NASCAR's Talladega 500 car race in Alabama. Earlier in the day, Mark Donohue, who had set a world record at the same track a week earlier, was fatally injured during a final morning practice, hours before the Austrian Grand Prix, when a punctured tire caused his car to hurtle through a fence. Donohue walked away from the crash, complaining of a severe headache, then went into convulsions. Two days after undergoing emergency brain surgery at Graz, Donohue died of complications.
  • Six firemen were killed and five others were injured while fighting a blaze at a Gulf Oil refinery in Philadelphia. Two of the company employees prevented further destruction by paddling a rowboat through a pool of hot crude oil and shutting off an open valve in a naphtha storage tank.

August 18
  • The "Bicentennial quarter" was put into circulation in the United States. For one year, the image of the American eagle was replaced by one of an American Revolutionary War drummer boy. The image of George Washington remained the same, but the inscription "1776-1976" was put where "1976" would have gone. The coins entered general circulation starting on September 17, 1975.

August 19
  • The New York Times became the first major American newspaper to call attention to sexual harassment of female employees, in an article syndicated nationwide by the New York Times News Service. The Wall Street Journal would follow with an article in January.

August 20
  • NASA launched the Viking 1 planetary probe toward Mars. Liftoff took place from Cape Canaveral at 5:22 pm local time. After a journey of ten months and 505 million miles, Viking would enter orbit around Mars on June 19, 1976, and the lander would reach the surface of Mars on July 20, sending back pictures and data until November 13, 1982.

August 21
  • The United States partially lifted its embargo against Cuba, allowing the foreign subsidiaries of American companies to trade directly with the Castro regime.
  • Venezuela nationalized the oil industry there, with production facilities taken over by the state-owned company, Petróleos de Venezuela.

August 23
  • Laos became the third Indochinese nation to come under Communist Control in six months, as Vientiane, the nation's capital, welcomed the Pathet Lao guerillas. Prime Minister Souphanouvong, who led the Pathet Lao and a coalition government, pledged that King Sri Savang Vatthana would continue to reign.
  • The Soviet Union detonated eight nuclear devices simultaneously in a single event, marking a new trend in multiple testing.
  • Died: Hank Patterson, 86, American TV actor (Fred Ziffel on Green Acres)


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Fallin' in Love," Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
2. "One of These Nights," Eagles
3. "Get Down Tonight," KC & The Sunshine Band
4. "Jive Talkin'," Bee Gees
5. "Rhinestone Cowboy," Glen Campbell
6. "Why Can't We Be Friends?," War
7. "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)," James Taylor
8. "Someone Saved My Life Tonight," Elton John
9. "At Seventeen," Janis Ian
10. "Please Mr. Please," Olivia Newton-John
11. "Fight the Power, Pt. 1," The Isley Brothers
12. "Midnight Blue," Melissa Manchester
13. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille
14. "I'm Not in Love," 10cc
15. "Could It Be Magic," Barry Manilow
16. "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights," Freddy Fender
17. "Feel Like Makin' Love," Bad Company
18. "Holdin' On to Yesterday," Ambrosia
19. "That's the Way of the World," Earth, Wind & Fire
20. "Ballroom Blitz," Sweet
21. "Third Rate Romance," Amazing Rhythm Aces
22. "Help Me Rhonda," Johnny Rivers
23. "The Rockford Files," Mike Post
24. "Fame," David Bowie
25. "Tush," ZZ Top

29. "(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates
30. "Solitaire," Carpenters
31. "Daisy Jane," America

35. "Feelings," Morris Albert
36. "How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters
37. "Run Joey Run," David Geddes

40. "It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares
41. "Dance with Me," Orleans
42. "Sweet Maxine," The Doobie Brothers

44. "Listen to What the Man Said," Wings
45. "Mornin' Beautiful," Tony Orlando & Dawn
46. "Ain't No Way to Treat a Lady," Helen Reddy
47. "Rocky," Austin Roberts
48. "Games People Play," The Spinners
49. "I'm Sorry," John Denver

51. "Just a Little Bit of You," Michael Jackson
52. "Dynomite, Pt. I," Tony Camillo's Bazuka
53. "The Hustle," Van McCoy & The Soul City Symphony

55. "Brazil," The Ritchie Family
56. "Gone at Last," Paul Simon / Phoebe Snow & The Jessy Dixon Singers

62. "Send in the Clowns," Judy Collins
63. "Lady Blue," Leon Russell
64. "Do It Any Way You Wanna," Peoples Choice

73. "What a Diff'rence a Day Makes," Esther Phillips

75. "Main Title (Theme from 'Jaws')," John Williams

82. "Miracles," Jefferson Starship
83. "Katmandu," Bob Seger

87. "I Only Have Eyes for You," Art Garfunkel
88. "Who Loves You," The Four Seasons

90. "Out of Time," The Rolling Stones


95. "I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band

98. "Eighteen with a Bullet," Pete Wingfield

Leaving the chart:
  • "Every Time You Touch Me (I Get High)," Charlie Rich (12 weeks)
  • "Magic," Pilot (20 weeks)
  • "Rockin' Chair," Gwen McCrae (14 weeks)
  • "Slippery When Wet," Commodores (15 weeks)
  • "SOS," ABBA (2 weeks)
  • "Swearin' to God," Frankie Valli (14 weeks)
  • "The Way We Were / Try to Remember," Gladys Knight & The Pips (17 weeks)

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"I Only Have Eyes for You," Art Garfunkel
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"Eighteen with a Bullet," Pete Wingfield
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"Who Loves You," The Four Seasons
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They're in the same universe as Mission: Impossible.
Except they weren't doing the thing where it was readable in English.

Yeah, true. But if they did end up five minutes in the past, they could have called it a day. And the guys would have been there to give themselves advice through all of their adventures.
That could work for any reasonably recent amount of time in the past, but they'd never do it because it would break the show's implied rule that the guys can try to meddle all they want, because they'll never overtly change the past.

That gets the Irwin stamp of approval.
I was wondering if the capsule had been used in LIS.

Def not Capping this.

That's pretty nice... until it tumbles out of the vortex and smashes to bits. :rommie:
It has a Carroll O'Connor suspension.

Yeah, all they'd need is a supply of loose change.
Hence Kirk's swear jar.

Sounds like a job for MeTV: The World's Most Famous Landlord Contest.
The short list Copilot gave me put the Mertzes at the top, but Furley and the Ropers were also on it.

Norman Fell has popped up a number of times on our 5Xth Anniversary Viewing radar at this point--more than I would have thought, including a couple of episodes of 12OCH. The one that was sticking out in my head was The Graduate, which came out later in the same year as this episode.
 
Two auto racing legends were fatally injured on the same day, thousands of miles apart.
That must have been a surreal day for the racing world.

Two of the company employees prevented further destruction by paddling a rowboat through a pool of hot crude oil and shutting off an open valve in a naphtha storage tank.
Very impressive. I hope they got a little something extra in their paychecks.

The "Bicentennial quarter" was put into circulation in the United States.
I remember when those started turning up. It was kind of cool at the time.

NASA launched the Viking 1 planetary probe toward Mars.
A half century later and those life testing experiments are more questionable than ever. :rommie:

The Soviet Union detonated eight nuclear devices simultaneously in a single event, marking a new trend in multiple testing.
Interesting. I'm not aware of this. I wonder if they were spread out or in a cluster. And what the purpose was.

"I Only Have Eyes for You," Art Garfunkel
Sounds like the 50s. Or the 30s. :rommie:

"Eighteen with a Bullet," Pete Wingfield
This is kind of amusing, but I remember it more from Lost 45s or Time-Life.

"Do It Any Way You Wanna," Peoples Choice
I do remember this one, but it triggers no reaction at all.

"Who Loves You," The Four Seasons
Here we go. I love this one. Strong nostalgic value.

"Miracles," Jefferson Starship
Also love this one. Strong nostalgic value. These last two are real time-travel songs. They really take me back.

Except they weren't doing the thing where it was readable in English.
Hmm....

That could work for any reasonably recent amount of time in the past, but they'd never do it because it would break the show's implied rule that the guys can try to meddle all they want, because they'll never overtly change the past.
Oh, right, that would be weird. "I told me not to talk to her! Why didn't I listen!"

I was wondering if the capsule had been used in LIS.
I was actually picturing a specific prop when you said capsule, but that's not it. I don't recognize the one they used.

Def not Capping this.
I didn't think you would, but I wasn't sure. :rommie: That's Al the Bartender from the series finale of Quantum Leap. He was implied to be Sam's perception of some kind of time deity who had been controlling Sam's leaps up till then, but who then gave Sam the ability to control his own leaps as the show ended.

It has a Carroll O'Connor suspension.
And that's your revenge for Al the Bartender. Not capped. :rommie:

Hence Kirk's swear jar.
:rommie:

The short list Copilot gave me put the Mertzes at the top, but Furley and the Ropers were also on it.
The only other one I can think of right now is Phyllis.

Norman Fell has popped up a number of times on our 5Xth Anniversary Viewing radar at this point--more than I would have thought
Yeah, he's popped up in a couple of surprising places for me, like Perry Mason and Alfred Hitchcock. It's a little jarring to see him in a dramatic role. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"The Death Trap"
Originally aired December 2, 1966
MeTV said:
In 1861, Tony and Doug are involved in a plot to assassinate President-Elect Abraham Lincoln.

Back in their usual clothes, Tony and Doug tumble together into a stable where a group of men are gathered, whom they initially watch from hiding, and are then taken in as a part of, even while TT monitors...but the crew's fix switches to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln (Ford Rainey) at Ford's Theater in 1865, even though their reading of Tony and Doug indicates 1861. Jeremiah Gebhardt (Scott Marlowe) gives a speech to the stable conspirators about their own plot to assassinate the president, with the intent of secessionists being blamed, which he expects will lead to an invasion of the South. The TT crew immediately start speculating about somebody having impersonated Lincoln for four years until Kirk recalls an earlier assassination attempt in '61 (based on an actual historical event). The stable is raided, and while the conspirators escape, Tony and Doug find themselves in fisticuffs with the raiders, who subdue and capture Doug.

The raiders are led by historical detective and agency-founder Allan Pinkerton (R. G. Armstrong). Tony takes refuge with the Gebhardts, Jeremiah and his brother Matthew (Tom Skerritt), learning that they're in Baltimore and it's February 22; and that his hosts, who were formerly with crusading abolitionist John Brown, have constructed a crude but powerful time bomb. Tony tries to discourage their plan but can't press the matter because they think he's one of them. Also present is the Gebhardt's teenage brother, David (Christopher Harris), who isn't in on the plot. TT looks into the historical event and learn of Pinkerton's involvement (part of the historical fact). Pinkerton interrogates Doug, who knows nothing but that Gebhardt intends to kill Lincoln.

While Jeremiah's checking out an unscheduled train arrival, Tony tries to convince Matthew that the Gebhardts are wrong about Lincoln and, of course, that their plan is doomed to fail. The train is carrying Lincoln, who'll be laid over in an unused depot that Pinkerton is securing. Doug tries to talk to Lincoln and catches his interest. Returning home, Jeremiah changes his plan to using the bomb at the depot rather than on the train. When Tony tries to make a break for it to warn Doug, Jerry threatens to shoot him, but Matt stands up for him. Tony is trussed up instead, but when David enters the room, Tony challenges Jerry to explain what he's up to. Back at the depot, Doug explains to Lincoln why Jerry wants to kill him, and can't help slipping in that war between the states is inevitable. The president-elect probes Doug for his insight into the future of the nation, and Doug assures him that the Union will be thriving for over a century. Then Pinkerton and his men are drawn out by Matthew firing randomly outside, claiming when questioned that he's hunting wabbits...a distraction so Jerry can get close enough to plant his bomb. Seeing this, TT become desperate to pull Doug out, but not wanting to separate the guys, have to find Tony.

Unattended Tony frees himself from his chair and cosmetic bandana gag and hotfoots it for the depot. A curious David follows him. Tony arrives making noise about there being a bomb and is taken in where Doug's still being held. The guys try to make a break for it, and once again Tony succeeds while Doug is subdued. Searching outside, Tony finds the bomb and, unable to open its thick pipe casing, tosses it as far from the depot as he can. He's then recaptured and tries to persuade Pinkerton to let him show them where the bomb is...which he succeeds at with the help of some maneuvering from the ever-reasonable and thoughtful Lincoln. But David has found the device--which he was told back at home was a clock--and is holding it as TT retrieves it. Ann and the others, trying to lure him out of the Tunnel so they can defuse it, ultimately have to tell him what it is, and while he doesn't believe them and doesn't want to hand the device over, the crew talks him into wedging a tool into the dial to stop it. David is then sent back, still holding the temporarily inactivated device, which he sets back down in a different spot.

The older brothers come home just before David, and when he tries to tell them what he's been doing, they learn that he stopped the "clock". Jerry wants to go back for it, though Matt tries to talk him out of it, fearing the risk of apprehension and confronting his brother about how his obsession with killing Lincoln has gone beyond his original motive. The brothers end up brawling outside, and Matt is overcome. Back at the depot, Tony doesn't find the bomb where he left it. As plan B, Tony--now chained to Doug by their wrists, leads Pinkerton to the unoccupied Gebhardt home. After Pinkerton finds evidence of the brothers' radical activities and bomb-building parts, he frees the guys and heads back for the depot ahead of them. The guys find David and the recovering Matt, the latter of whom insists on personally stopping his brother. He and Tony find Jeremiah, who's retrieved the bomb and is waiting behind cover for Lincoln to come outside. He overcomes Matt again and makes a break for the depot.

Jerry sets down the device and takes aim at Lincoln as he's boarding the train, but is jumped by Doug, a brawl ensuing that culminates with Jeremiah holding his rifle on Doug, Tony, and Matthew. Matt dares Jeremiah to kill him, Jerry can't bring himself to do it, and Doug grabs and tosses the device away, following which it explodes. Doug finds the screwdriver that had been jammed into it and realizes that it came from the Tunnel. The guys then fade back into the timestream.



It's interesting that we should come upon an episode involving Allan Pinkerton at this time. I've been casually catching episodes of Grizzly Adams--a show I was aware of but didn't watch as a kid. Last week's episode, which was the latest one while I was watching this TT episode, guest-starred post-Ironside Don Galloway as Pinkerton, hot on Adams's trail but, in the spirit of the show, ultimately letting him go after becoming involved in Adams's effort to save trapped critters from the local volcano. To further the cross-viewing coincidences, this morning's GA episode guest-starred Norman Fell! He played a cruel animal trainer who temporarily got ahold of Ben.



The Invaders
"Storm"
Originally aired April 4, 1967
Frndly said:
David tries to convince a priest that aliens are responsible for unseasonable hurricanes and the death of the cleric's friend.

A TV weatherman (John Mayo) shows meteorologist Dr. Malcolm Gantley (Simon Scott) a film of a February hurricane that hit Miami, a boat stationed in its eye from the town of St. Matthew Beach, which the hurricane miraculously avoided. Gantley arranges to catch a ride there with childhood friend Father Joe Corelli (Joseph Campanella), but is nearly killed by a toppling palm tree at their meeting spot; and is covertly watched by a mystery man billed as Alien #1 (Edward Faulkner), who'd also been eavesdropping at the station when Gantley called Corelli.

The QM Narrator said:
In the nightmare world in which David Vincent moves, there is seldom reason or logic. And so a hurricane that occurs out of season, that blankets a 600-mile area yet spares a single town. Such a storm becomes part of that nightmare world and prompts a phone call to a meteorologist named Gantley and brings Vincent to a fishing town near the Florida Keys.

David's questions about Gantley's whereabouts at his hotel motivate a local fisherthem named Luis Perez (Carlos Romero) to make a call. Gantley rows to the suspicious vessel and finds an apparatus on the deck, only for one of the crew to FIND him. As part of his search for Gantley, David pays a call on Corelli at home, where we meet his housekeeper, Lisa (Barbara Luna), and the priest gets a call that Gantley died of a cerebral hemorrhage. David proceeds to the church, where the organist (Allen Emerson) and A1 attack him, resulting in an all-out brawl in the pews. When A1 tries to FIND him, David presses the disc against the alien and he disintegrates. David is knocked out on the organ keys, attracting the attention of a couple of young guys outside working on their car, which saves him from being FOUND.

After the church is clear again, the organist uses a console hidden behind an altar wall panel. Father Joe keeps the concussed David at his place. Lisa warns the father that David's been saying strange things, and slips pills in Vincent's tea. David learns how Gantley was investigating a fishing boat that belongs to Luis Perez. After David drinks his tea, he tries to tell the skeptical father about them. On the boat, Luis and crew untarp their apparatus, which is controlled remotely by the organist. A series of vertical rods on the boat glow red and shoot up bursts of energy, disturbing the atmosphere and whipping up a storm. David wakes up to realize he's been doped and struggles to leave his room, seeing Lisa downstairs talking to the organist--Shouldn't he be busy controlling the weather? David makes an effort to sneak downstairs and get to a phone, only to collapse and be caught by Lisa, who coldly yanks the cord out.

As the locals prep for the sudden storm, Father Joe tries to recruit local doc MacLeuen (Dean Harens) to go check out the guy he patched up for a concussion who's now babbling about alien conspiracies, but the doc's anticipating a busy spell. When David comes to, he refuses to drink anything Lisa gives him, so she tries to talk him into giving in.

David: And what happens to Washington? New York? Boston?​

She reveals that she and Luis recently rebuilt the church. Father Joe bursts in with Luis and some of the latter's alien cronies to find David struggling with Lisa, and she leads the priest to believe it was a rape attempt, briefly sending the man of the cloth into a rage in which he smacks David. Standing behind Father Joe, Luis helps David to FIND motivation not to tell the priest what's really going on. David's taken away by them.

But their car is stopped by a roadblock manned by a local constable named Danny (Paul Comi). David tells him that the men are going to kill him, and while the constable is skeptical, he agrees to the precaution of taking David to the hospital himself. While Danny's trying to secure a sub for the roadblock, David steals his wheels. Meanwhile, Lisa has been unsuccessful in steering Father Joe, who's hung up over what he did to David, from going to the church. When he gets there, he sees Luis and Organmeister manning the secret console and realizes that David wasn't shitting him. When Father J sees David sneaking in, he keeps Lisa occupied long enough for David to stealth his way through the pews to tackle her. Father Joe takes her gun, but on a signal from Lisa, Luis pops a suicide pill and tosses himself onto the console, causing not only it to self-destruct, but the fishing boat as well. As Father J holds Lisa and Orgy at gunpoint, Lisa pushes his faith buttons and he can't bring himself to killing any of God's children, even shapeshifting aliens who are trying to kill millions and take over the world. While David struggles with him over the gun, they get away, following which Father J kneels at another altar.

All sins are forgiven in the Epilog, including David stealing a cop car, thanks to a good word from Father J; who apologizes for having to stop David. A newspaper headline informs us that the storm was aimed at Washington. David gets in a taxi, leaving behind another knowing confidant.
The QM Narrator said:
Two men, two searchers. The one searching heaven and Earth. The other searching in the corridors of the human conscience. The search continues.



I remember when those started turning up. It was kind of cool at the time.
I remember them as well.

Sounds like the 50s. Or the 30s. :rommie:
I like the arrangement, but Garfunkel's voice isn't selling it for me.

This is kind of amusing, but I remember it more from Lost 45s or Time-Life.
Now this one, which I can't say I'm familiar with, is definitely going for a retro-'50s sound.

I do remember this one, but it triggers no reaction at all.
I already had this, but it's otherwise unfamiliar.

Here we go. I love this one. Strong nostalgic value.
Good and catchy classic. This would be the first time we've heard from the group in 50th Anniversaryland since '67.

Also love this one. Strong nostalgic value.
The second coming of the former Airplane! A very immersive-sounding piece of soft rock goodness.

I didn't think you would, but I wasn't sure. :rommie: That's Al the Bartender from the series finale of Quantum Leap. He was implied to be Sam's perception of some kind of time deity who had been controlling Sam's leaps up till then, but who then gave Sam the ability to control his own leaps as the show ended.
Yeah, my knowledge of the show and much more lightly casual than that.

And that's your revenge for Al the Bartender. Not capped. :rommie:
Actually, I think David in the episode above landed on his feet; and the guest character snatched to 1968 in the next episode just suddenly reappears when returned to his own time.

The only other one I can think of right now is Phyllis.
Who wasn't on the AI list.

Yeah, he's popped up in a couple of surprising places for me, like Perry Mason and Alfred Hitchcock. It's a little jarring to see him in a dramatic role. :rommie:
The GA episode actually aired a week after the premiere of Three's Company.
 
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Tony and Doug tumble together into a stable where a group of men are gathered, whom they initially watch from hiding, and are then taken in as a part of
"Come join our murderous conspiracy, Strangers In Funny Clothes."

even while TT monitors...but the crew's fix switches to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln (Ford Rainey) at Ford's Theater in 1865, even though their reading of Tony and Doug indicates 1861.
Is this just to make sure the audience is aware that Lincoln was assassinated? :rommie:

their own plot to assassinate the president, with the intent of secessionists being blamed, which he expects will lead to an invasion of the South.
So these guys are radical Abolitionists? This would be interesting because the bad guys would be good guys, although I doubt that TT could manage complex moral dilemmas very well.

The TT crew immediately start speculating about somebody having impersonated Lincoln for four years
He was probably a robot clone.

The raiders are led by historical detective and agency-founder Allan Pinkerton
Cool.

his brother Matthew (Tom Skerritt)
Evil Satanist Politician on Night Stalker, among a billion other things.

they're in Baltimore and it's February 22
Washington's Birthday. Not a holiday yet, I don't think.

TT looks into the historical event and learn of Pinkerton's involvement (part of the historical fact).
This episode has some nifty historical details.

Doug tries to talk to Lincoln and catches his interest.
"Ever been to Ford's Theater? One star. Stay away from the place."

The president-elect probes Doug for his insight into the future of the nation, and Doug assures him that the Union will be thriving for over a century.
"Kids will dress up as you on Halloween!"

Then Pinkerton and his men are drawn out by Matthew firing randomly outside
"Irwin said too much talk, time for something to happen."

Tony finds the bomb and, unable to open its thick pipe casing, tosses it as far from the depot as he can.
Not exactly the most sensitive explosive device ever built.

Ann and the others, trying to lure him out of the Tunnel so they can defuse it, ultimately have to tell him what it is, and while he doesn't believe them and doesn't want to hand the device over
Any indication of what he thinks is happening? You'd think he'd be pretty freaked out.

Back at the depot, Tony doesn't find the bomb where he left it.
"Some days you can get rid of a bomb."

After Pinkerton finds evidence of the brothers' radical activities and bomb-building parts, he frees the guys and heads back for the depot ahead of them.
Pinkerton seems to be portrayed pretty reasonably.

Doug grabs and tosses the device away, following which it explodes.
It's about time.

Doug finds the screwdriver that had been jammed into it and realizes that it came from the Tunnel. The guys then fade back into the timestream.
Does the screwdriver go with them? :rommie:

It's interesting that we should come upon an episode involving Allan Pinkerton at this time. I've been casually catching episodes of Grizzly Adams--a show I was aware of but didn't watch as a kid. Last week's episode, which was the latest one while I was watching this TT episode, guest-starred post-Ironside Don Galloway as Pinkerton, hot on Adams's trail but
Is Grizzly Adams a fugitive or something? I know nothing about the show.

in the spirit of the show, ultimately letting him go after becoming involved in Adams's effort to save trapped critters from the local volcano.
Saving critters from volcanoes is kind of the impression that I had of the show.

To further the cross-viewing coincidences, this morning's GA episode guest-starred Norman Fell! He played a cruel animal trainer who temporarily got ahold of Ben.
It's hard to take him seriously as a bad guy. :rommie:

Father Joe Corelli (Joseph Campanella)
Ann Romano's ex, among a billion other things.

but is nearly killed by a toppling palm tree at their meeting spot
Uh oh. The Thems can become trees now.

hiis housekeeper, Lisa (Barbara Luna)
She's his girlfriend in the Mirror Universe.

David proceeds to the church, where the organist (Allen Emerson) and A1 attack him, resulting in an all-out brawl in the pews.
No wonder attendance is down.

David is knocked out on the organ keys, attracting the attention of a couple of young guys outside working on their car
"That G-note sounded off key."

Father Joe keeps the concussed David at his place.
Because a trip to the ER would make too much sense.

After David drinks his tea, he tries to tell the skeptical father about them.
"Sorry, David, I don't believe in crazy nonsense like space aliens. They were probably demons or evil spirits."

A series of vertical rods on the boat glow red and shoot up bursts of energy, disturbing the atmosphere and whipping up a storm.
They have technology that can control the weather, yet they only use it in one episode. :rommie:

seeing Lisa downstairs talking to the organist--Shouldn't he be busy controlling the weather?
Would you rather control the weather or chat up Barbara Luna?

When David comes to, he refuses to drink anything Lisa gives him
"My mother warned me about girls like you!"

she leads the priest to believe it was a rape attempt, briefly sending the man of the cloth into a rage in which he smacks David.
"Have another concussion, you jerk!"

while the constable is skeptical, he agrees to the precaution of taking David to the hospital himself.
David meets a reasonable character....

While Danny's trying to secure a sub for the roadblock, David steals his wheels.
And immediately betrays him! This is why nobody trusts you, David.

he keeps Lisa occupied long enough for David to stealth his way through the pews to tackle her
Shouldn't he be going for the guys at the console?

Father Joe takes her gun, but on a signal from Lisa, Luis pops a suicide pill and tosses himself onto the console, causing not only it to self-destruct, but the fishing boat as well.
Man, they folded easy. :rommie:

Father J holds Lisa and Orgy at gunpoint
I can't believe that got past the censors. :rommie:

Lisa pushes his faith buttons and he can't bring himself to killing any of God's children, even shapeshifting aliens who are trying to kill millions and take over the world.
God has a plan. It's a stupid plan, but a plan nonetheless.

While David struggles with him over the gun, they get away, following which Father J kneels at another altar.
I'm shocked that Barbara Luna got away without being disintegrated.

A newspaper headline informs us that the storm was aimed at Washington.
You'd think that they would set up these weather control devices all over the place and then use them all at once. This could be taken as another sign that the Thems aren't as powerful as they make themselves out to be.

Yeah, my knowledge of the show and much more lightly casual than that.
I know it's come up before, but I couldn't remember if you were a fan or not. I only watched the last couple of seasons.

Ah, right.

Actually, I think David in the episode above landed on his feet
Good thing, since he was carrying a bomb. :rommie:

and the guest character snatched to 1968 in the next episode just suddenly reappears when returned to his own time.
Maybe it has something specific to do with the original circumstances when Doug and Tony leaped. Or they're just clumsy.

Who wasn't on the AI list.
That's funny. I'll have to generate that list and see who they've got.

The GA episode actually aired a week after the premiere of Three's Company.
Good times for Norman Fell!
 
"Come join our murderous conspiracy, Strangers In Funny Clothes."
:lol: Kinda like the unexplained translation, nobody ever seems to draw attention to the guys' wardrobe. It brings to mind "Spectre of the Gun" when Kirk was trying to get the bartender to notice his strange clothes.

Is this just to make sure the audience is aware that Lincoln was assassinated? :rommie:
I think that they were trying to draw attention to the fact that the episode wasn't about that assassination.

So these guys are radical Abolitionists? This would be interesting because the bad guys would be good guys, although I doubt that TT could manage complex moral dilemmas very well.
My understanding is that history doesn't look favorably on John Brown. He was a zealot who slaughtered slaveowners.

Any indication of what he thinks is happening? You'd think he'd be pretty freaked out.
They generally are when they get pulled into Tic-Toc. I think he was too scared to move.

"Some days you can get rid of a bomb."
Bat-Capped, old chum!

Does the screwdriver go with them? :rommie:
Apparently not. Doug dropped it just before the guys were beamed out. Perhaps it was pulled back separately, like the ring.

Is Grizzly Adams a fugitive or something? I know nothing about the show.
Yes, being wanted for a murder he didn't commit was his motivation for taking to the wilderness.
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This was Denver Pyle's gig immediately prior to Dukes of Hazzard.

From the episodes I've seen so far, his fugitive status doesn't play a very prominent part in the stories. He's a stationary fugitive, living in a cabin in the wilderness. Guest characters routinely wander in and out of his turf but are usually won over by him and apparently don't squeal afterward.

My overall assessment of the show is that it's generally enjoyable comfort viewing that's clearly aimed at the family audience and is rather simplistic in its M.O. of beating the viewer over the head with the message that all the creatures in the wilderness are harmless and friendly if we treat them right. The show squanders the opportunity to teach the kids practical knowledge about dealing with the dangers of the wild kingdom.

Don Galloway's Pinkerton was never identified by his full name, and he didn't look much like the historical figure. The TT actor was a better fit. Fun fact: The pic of Don Galloway on IMDb that accompanies his credits is from the GA episode.

It's hard to take him seriously as a bad guy. :rommie:
Per the show's M.O., he was more misguided, and learned his lesson about treating his critters with compassion and respect.

Uh oh. The Thems can become trees now.
Or knock them down on people.

She's his girlfriend in the Mirror Universe.
Cap's sporting a goatee.

Because a trip to the ER would make too much sense.
He'd seen the doctor beforehand.

"Sorry, David, I don't believe in crazy nonsense like space aliens. They were probably demons or evil spirits."
:D

Would you rather control the weather or chat up Barbara Luna?
"Hey, come back to the church and I'll show you how I control the weather...."

David meets a reasonable character....


And immediately betrays him! This is why nobody trusts you, David.
:guffaw:

Shouldn't he be going for the guys at the console?
She had the gun.

God has a plan. It's a stupid plan, but a plan nonetheless.
:techman:

You'd think that they would set up these weather control devices all over the place and then use them all at once. This could be taken as another sign that the Thems aren't as powerful as they make themselves out to be.
Or limited resources, and their M.O. of keeping a low profile to avoid nuclear confrontation.

Maybe it has something specific to do with the original circumstances when Doug and Tony leaped. Or they're just clumsy.
As the trivia point mention, they're the only ones shown tumbling through the vortex other than O'Connor.

That's funny. I'll have to generate that list and see who they've got.
I specifically asked for a list of the most famous TV landlords.

Good times for Norman Fell!
Given the timing, it's likely his GA appearance was filmed just before TC started.
 
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:lol: Kinda like the unexplained translation, nobody ever seems to draw attention to the guys' wardrobe. It brings to mind "Spectre of the Gun" when Kirk was trying to get the bartender to notice his strange clothes.
Which raises the question of whether they're traveling through time at all.

I think that they were trying to draw attention to the fact that the episode wasn't about that assassination.
That makes sense. I'll bet most people know about the assassination, but wouldn't be able to get near what year it was.

My understanding is that history doesn't look favorably on John Brown. He was a zealot who slaughtered slaveowners.
Indeed, he's on that list of people who did more harm to their cause than good. It's a list that's growing exponentially in the 21st century. :rommie:

Bat-Capped, old chum!
:D

Yes, being wanted for a murder he didn't commit was his motivation for taking to the wilderness.
I had no idea.

My overall assessment of the show is that it's generally enjoyable comfort viewing that's clearly aimed at the family audience and is rather simplistic in its M.O. of beating the viewer over the head with the message that all the creatures in the wilderness are harmless and friendly if we treat them right.
This was pretty much my impression of it, though I've never seen a single second of it. Till now. :rommie:

Per the show's M.O., he was more misguided, and learned his lesson about treating his critters with compassion and respect.
Kind of like SHAZAM. Do people fall down holes a lot?

Or knock them down on people.
Too simple. I want to complicate things. :rommie:

Cap's sporting a goatee.
:D

He'd seen the doctor beforehand.
Oh, okay, that's cool. Did the doc tell the priest to watch over him and wake him up in the middle of the night to make sure he wasn't in a coma? :rommie:

"Hey, come back to the church and I'll show you how I control the weather...."
"Everybody talks about the weather, but I do something about it."

She had the gun.
Hmm, okay.

Or limited resources, and their M.O. of keeping a low profile to avoid nuclear confrontation.
Yeah, this is what I mean. They claim to come from a highly advanced planet, but they're really from a worn-out generation ship hiding behind the Moon or something.

I specifically asked for a list of the most famous TV landlords.
My list didn't include either Phyllis or the Ropers, and included a bunch of characters I never heard of. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"The Alamo"
Originally aired December 9, 1966
MeTV said:
In 1836, the travelers find themselves trapped with the defenders of the Alamo.

The guys tumble out in the middle of a crossfire between the Mexican Army attackers and Texan fort defenders. They're soon attacked by a couple of armed Mexican soldiers and teach them a few lessons from their papers before being waved into the fort. A subsequent Mexican cavalry assault relies heavily on stock footage from a 1960 film of the same name as the episode title. There they make the acquaintance of Capt. Reynerson (John Lupton), whose wife (Elizabeth Rogers) is with him, patching up wounded soldiers, and who tells them that Crockett was killed the day before. When fort commander Col. William Barrett Travis (Rhodes Reason) comes over to assess the situation, he name-drops Colonel Bowie. TT have already determined that the year is 1836; when Doug is told that it's March 6, he pieces the details together and realizes where they're at.

When Col. Jim Bowie (Jim Davis) advises that they reassess their situation, Travis refuses to abandon the fort, insisting that reinforcements will arrive. In the show's usual fashion, Tony tells him otherwise, that everyone will be massacred before reinforcements come. (IMDb fact-checks this, noting that non-combatants survived.) Travis orders him locked up in a supply shed, and while the guys fight off multiple armed guards, they're eventually overcome and imprisoned. When Tony tries to summon medical help for a badly injured Doug, Reynerson tells him that the nearest doctor is a friendly Mexican named Armandez in San Antonio. Motivated to bring medical help for his own men, Reynerson helps Tony escape to go get him. Tony proceeds via the stupidest route imaginable--holding Travis at the point of Reynerson's gun to demand a horse. Tony ends up having to make a break for it up the inside of the fort wall, Col. Bowie taking a tumble in a brief struggling with him. When Tony lands outside, he's immediately taking prisoner by a Mexican scout in hiding.

Doug pretends to hold Reynerson hostage with a rifle taken from a guard who entered the shed while Tony was on his way out. Reynerson entertains the notion that Doug can see the future as Doug shares details of what's to happen. After Travis has a man take rifle shots at him through a window, Doug tries to bargain through the door, noting that he could destroy the fort's supplies and asking to see Bowie. He's brought out, shown the injured Bowie, and told how it happened, then tied to a tree. Bowie having been injured in a fall matches something Doug told Reynerson, which causes the captain to believe everything Doug's been saying. Meanwhile, the scout, Sgt. Garcia (Alberto Monte), smuggles Tony into San Antonio, and when he determines that he can't opportunistically make any money off of his prisoner, decides to go ahead and take him to Captain Rodriguez.

IMDB said:
While Sgt. Garcia is talking to Tony, we can see that his bandolier contains metal-cased cartridges. That type of ammunition would not be developed until more than a decade later, and it would be much longer before it would become available to the Mexican army. In addition, it would be useless with the muzzle-loading flintlock weapon he was carrying.

In 1968, the TT crew's efforts to pull the guys out separately are stymied in part by their plans for the Alamo not being accurately proportioned and not having a period-specific plan of the area of town that Tony's been taken to. (Clearly the people in the show and those making it have no concept of GPS.) Tony conveniently finds Capt. Rodriguez (Rodolfo Hoyos) being checked out by Dr. Armandez (Edward Colmans). Rodriguez takes Tony for a deserter and wants intel about the Alamo's cannon placement; and Tony's unsuccessful in bartering for medical help, so he takes an opportunity to grab an unattended saber and make a break for it. While attempting to hide from a search party, he gets into a brawl with Garcia and accepts an escape wagon ride from Armandez when the guards catch up. Back at the fort, tension erupts between Reynerson and Travis about the latter's insistence on holding their position, motivating Reynerson to offer to set Doug free if he'll take Mrs. R with him. Travis catches Raynerson in the act and switches positions with Doug just in time to suddenly disappear as TT snatches the wrong man--DRINK!!!

Kirk comes clean with Col. Travis about where and when he is and who Doug is, which is taken to be nonsense; so the general shows him TunnelVision of the film and himself being shot on the ramparts, all of which is supposed to be only ten minutes in the colonel's future. Travis realizes that it's true and destined to happen, and that his place is with his men, but Kirk persuades him to save Phillips. Travis walks into the pyrotechnics and reappears at the fort to find the movie footage in full swing. Travis obligingly takes to the wall and meets his fate; while the Mexican soldiers blow the wall and Doug decides to take up a rifle and kill a few people in the past. Jim Bowie is also shown being shot after tossing his trademark knife into a soldier from his prone position.

Tony arrives as Mrs. Reynerson is crying over her killed husband; Armandez starts tending to the wounded as the Mexicans swarm the fort and, with prompting from Doug, saves Mrs. R by claiming she's his nurse; and Tony and Doug disappear.

IMDb tells me that an uncredited Fred Stromsoe (Jerry Woods from A12) plays a sentry, though I didn't spot him.



The Invaders
"Panic"
Originally aired April 11, 1967
Wiki said:
David pursues an ailing invader whose touch freezes humans to death.

A frantic young man (recent new dah-ling Robert Walker [Jr.]) flags down a freight truck with a story about helping his mother who's had an accident up the road. When he spots a pair of them waiting in a car at a bridge, he grabs the wheel to steer the truck over so he can jump out. The truck proceeds on its way, but ends up crashing after the driver, Ed Larson (Don Ross), complains of aching in his arm where the lad grabbed him. When a local farmer checks the crashed truck, he finds the guy riding shotgun, Joe Bagley (Joseph Perry), in disbelief that Larson is frozen like a block of ice...in the summer-tiiiiime.

The QM Narrator said:
A truck driver's bizarre death only added to the growing panic in a remote corner of West Virginia. Nine had died in a 48-hour period--all frozen. Six hours ago, it became the responsibility of Dr. George Grundy [Ford Rainey], United States Public Service, to bring the epidemic to an end, to find an answer to deaths for which medical authorities have found no answer. One man suspects the true nature of this strange and terrifying blight, that its source lies somewhere out in the vast reaches of space. That man: David Vincent.

Deputy Wallace (Len Wayland) brings Vincent to see Grundy, who's already wary of kooks with theories about the mysterious deaths. Having spoken to Bagley, David tells Grundy of the hitchhiker that Bagley kept out of his official report and tries to convince him to follow the trail of deaths to find the source. Meanwhile, Not Charlie, using another story about some guys trying to stop him from marrying his girl, hides in the curio shop of a woman named Molly (Helen Kleeb) as the Thematic Duo come around looking for him. (I'm assuming from process of elimination that these are the characters billed as Jorden [Ross Hagen] and Webster [Don Eitner].) He gently stops her from calling the police afterward, and she ends up being the next victim. The show signals us that the deputy who accompanies David and Wallace to the scene (Rayford Barnes) is one of them even before we see that he's credited as "Alien Deputy". David later learns from a station attendant (Robert Sorrells) that a couple of guys in a blue coupe have been looking for the kid, as have the deputies...and Wallace is found in the washroom having died of what David is sure will be diagnosed as a cerebral hemorrhage. David commandeers the attendant's truck to overtake Alien Deputy and finds the young man in the red jacket--whom the episode never gets around to introducing as Nick Baxter--on the property of a closed motel. David offers Nick a ride, but the lad runs at the sight of the deputy's car approaching. David hides and takes down the deputy after he gets out of his car, then uses his gun to take the fleeing lad into custody, refusing to shake his hand and ordering him to drive.

David dons gloves and tells Nick that he knows what the lad is.

Nick: I didn't mean for them to die. But I...I couldn't help myself.​

Sound familiar? Nick says that he has an alien virus and argues that they aren't all bad, though David goes straight for the Godwin and likens them to the Nazis. Nick tries to bargain for David to take him to a scheduled saucer arrival so his own people can help him, in exchange for invasion plans and/or intel about the next saucer arrival. They end up having to evade the blue coupe (which undermines the idea that Nick's trying to get back to his people, unless he's planning to stow away), and David has to steer them off the road to stop the lad from running over a couple of kids ♫ on a bicycle built for two ♫. The pair takes to the woods, where Nick argues that mankind isn't worth saving because they're savages, then a brief struggle ensues in which the gloves clearly come in handy. They're interrupted when a local girl named Madeline Flagg comes out of hiding (Lynn Loring, the guest Roy Thinnes liked so much that he married her a month after the episode aired). She takes them to her family farmhouse to meet her father, Gus (R. G. Armstrong), who points them to the nearest phone for calling the sheriff, and noticing David's head injury, offers to make the call for him for ten bucks. David, holding Nick at gunpoint the whole time, has to stop the lad from offering to shake Gus's hand. Madeline takes the guests into the house, where David has Nick put on the gloves and ties him to a post. Act II ends with either a sloppy syndication edit or a premature commercial insertion on Frndly's part.

Nick chats up Madeline, gaining her sympathy, and she challenges David about the situation. David (who evidently likes spunk) takes her aside and explains that this charming young man killed ten people, but Nick contradicts the story afterward, as David's collapsing from his injury in the next room. The lad claims that if Madeline sets him free, he can get to witnesses that he didn't kill those people. When David comes to, he finds the crazy kids gone, and stumbles outside as Gus is returning from the cafe with two "deputies"--the Thematic Duo. Vincent grabs Gus's shotgun and blasts both of them into disintegrating before his host's eyes.

Nick and Madeline trek through the dark woods toward Idlewild Flat with her German shepherd, Charlie. When Charlie starts getting fidgety and making noise, Nick's afraid that Vincent might be following. When Madeline is out of sight, Nick takes off a glove and pets Charlie... :wah: David presses Gus for info about anyplace local that a spaceship might land, and while this is clearly a little out of Gus's field of expertise, he zeroes in on Idlewild Flat. They head there and find Charlie's frozen carcass. Approaching the town by day, they find an alien saucer parked in a clearing; and also spot Nick and Madeline approaching from another direction. David tackles Nick and gets Madeline to safety; but Gus, seeing that the saucer, and Nick running toward it, are going to get away, climbs a siren tower to alert the local authorities. Nick unloads his pistol on Gus, sending him falling to the ground. And as the saucer takes off, it shoots a quick burst of energy at Nick, causing him to disintegrate.

In the Epilog, David drives Madeline to a depot where she can catch a bus to Wheeling, while she tries to come to terms with what her father died for. At the depot, a newspaper headline reads...
The QM Narrator said:
"Freezing Deaths Apparently Ended," and an alien landing site exposed. Grudging victories for David Vincent. But the invader still walks unheeded on the planet Earth. Somehow, some way, he must be stopped.



Which raises the question of whether they're traveling through time at all.
Clearly it's all a series of simulations meant to test their historical knowledge and TV Hero fighting skills.

This was pretty much my impression of it, though I've never seen a single second of it. Till now. :rommie:
For a show that aired later in the decade, it's got an early '70s leftover '60s vibe to it.

Kind of like SHAZAM. Do people fall down holes a lot?
As a matter of fact, the Norman Fell episode opened with Mad Jack falling into a pit trap that Fell's character had set. And Ben wandered away to be captured by Fell after Grizzly had a pile of rocks fall on him and was left for dead...Mad Jack and Nakoma never having bothered to unbury him to make sure.

I should clarify that Fell's character had a one-man traveling wagon show with a meager assortment of mostly small critters.

Oh, okay, that's cool. Did the doc tell the priest to watch over him and wake him up in the middle of the night to make sure he wasn't in a coma? :rommie:
I couldn't say, the visit happened during an act break.

Yeah, this is what I mean. They claim to come from a highly advanced planet, but they're really from a worn-out generation ship hiding behind the Moon or something.
Or it could be that while they're capable of interstellar travel, it isn't easy for them. Their saucers are pretty small, so there's only so much junk they could haul to Earth.

My list didn't include either Phyllis or the Ropers, and included a bunch of characters I never heard of. :rommie:
Mine also included a few who were unfamiliar to me. In fact, I think I had to narrow it down to "classic" TV landlords so I didn't get a bunch of stuff from more modern shows.
 
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"The Alamo"
I remember that.

The guys tumble out in the middle of a crossfire between the Mexican Army attackers and Texan fort defenders.
They should have called it The Bad Timing Tunnel.

They're soon attacked by a couple of armed Mexican soldiers and teach them a few lessons from their papers before being waved into the fort.
"Back off or we'll subject you to our entire bibliography!"

A subsequent Mexican cavalry assault relies heavily on stock footage from a 1960 film of the same name as the episode title.
It would have been cool if they re-released that movie to theaters with the Time Tunnel footage edited in. Or maybe it wouldn't have. I dunno.

and who tells them that Crockett was killed the day before.
Who's King of the Wild Frontier now?

he name-drops Colonel Bowie
"His name used to be Colonel Jones, but there was already a Colonel Jones, so he changed it."

Col. Jim Bowie (Jim Davis)
Jock. Ewing, that is.

In the show's usual fashion, Tony tells him otherwise, that everyone will be massacred before reinforcements come.
"I have come from the future to make you feel bad about things that cannot be changed."

(IMDb fact-checks this, noting that non-combatants survived.)
That was after Sam Beckett intervened. He can change things, even if Tony and Doug can't.

Travis orders him locked up in a supply shed, and while the guys fight off multiple armed guards, they're eventually overcome and imprisoned.
"Remember the supply shed!"

Reynerson tells him that the nearest doctor is a friendly Mexican named Armandez in San Antonio.
"He accepts all major insurances."

Tony proceeds via the stupidest route imaginable--holding Travis at the point of Reynerson's gun to demand a horse.
None of his papers are entitled How To Win Friends And Influence People.

Tony ends up having to make a break for it up the inside of the fort wall, Col. Bowie taking a tumble in a brief struggling with him. When Tony lands outside, he's immediately taking prisoner by a Mexican scout in hiding.
Events just keep happening, one right after the other. :rommie:

Doug pretends to hold Reynerson hostage with a rifle taken from a guard who entered the shed while Tony was on his way out.
What happened to Doug being badly injured?

smuggles Tony into San Antonio
Why does he need to be smuggled?

In 1968, the TT crew's efforts to pull the guys out separately are stymied in part by their plans for the Alamo not being accurately proportioned
Interesting, but weird, since the Alamo still exists.

motivating Reynerson to offer to set Doug free if he'll take Mrs. R with him
Aw, a touching moment amid all the frantic running around.

Travis catches Raynerson in the act and switches positions with Doug just in time to suddenly disappear as TT snatches the wrong man--DRINK!!!
:rommie:

Kirk comes clean with Col. Travis about where and when he is and who Doug is, which is taken to be nonsense
You'd think being in the middle of Tic Toc HQ would be pretty convincing.

so the general shows him TunnelVision of the film and himself being shot on the ramparts, all of which is supposed to be only ten minutes in the colonel's future.
The general has a bit of a mean streak. :rommie:

Travis realizes that it's true and destined to happen, and that his place is with his men
Another nice moment.

Doug decides to take up a rifle and kill a few people in the past.
You'd think the supply shed would look pretty good at this point. And what about him being badly injured? :rommie:

Tony arrives as Mrs. Reynerson is crying over her killed husband
This little Reynerson subplot is pretty sad, actually.

saves Mrs. R by claiming she's his nurse
Well, she was tending to wounded soldiers when we first saw her.

and Tony and Doug disappear
Apparently still no voice contact in this episode.

Larson is frozen like a block of ice...in the summer-tiiiiime.
This is what happens when you suck down your Slurpee too fast.

Grundy, who's already wary of kooks with theories about the mysterious deaths.
"Yes, Mister Wayne, we're looking into your 'Mister Freeze' theory. Stop calling every five minutes."

David tells Grundy of the hitchhiker
"Mister Grundy... may I call you Solomon...?"

tries to convince him to follow the trail of deaths to find the source.
"No! I refuse to follow the most obvious line of investigation!"

using another story about some guys trying to stop him from marrying his girl
Invader, serial killer, pathological liar-- he's not a very sympathetic character.

the Thematic Duo
Cute. :rommie:

He gently stops her from calling the police afterward, and she ends up being the next victim.
That's ten. He must be very touchie feelie.

David commandeers the attendant's truck
He just stole the guy's truck?

David hides and takes down the deputy after he gets out of his car, then uses his gun to take the fleeing lad into custody
He just pummelled a police officer, stole his weapon, and kidnapped a kid?

Sound familiar?
He's getting typecast. :rommie:

David goes straight for the Godwin and likens them to the Nazis.
"We're not like the Nazis! The Nazis were successful!"

They end up having to evade the blue coupe (which undermines the idea that Nick's trying to get back to his people, unless he's planning to stow away)
Yeah, the plot and the Nick character are pretty contradictory. He seems to be on the run from both Them and local authorities. He says that the Them aren't all bad, suggesting that he opposes his own people, but then says that humans are savages not worth saving. The story can't seem to decide what it's doing.

a couple of kids ♫ on a bicycle built for two ♫.
That's a random touch. :rommie:

(Lynn Loring, the guest Roy Thinnes liked so much that he married her a month after the episode aired)
Pretty good, since she was preceded by Suzanne Pleshette and Barbara Luna. :rommie:

David, holding Nick at gunpoint the whole time, has to stop the lad from offering to shake Gus's hand.
"Come on, Earthlings, group hug!"

as David's collapsing from his injury in the next room
See, this is why you have to watch over people who have a concussion. :rommie:

The lad claims that if Madeline sets him free, he can get to witnesses that he didn't kill those people.
"On Perry Mason, the Defense subpoenas witnesses."

Vincent grabs Gus's shotgun and blasts both of them into disintegrating before his host's eyes.
Doesn't that still count as murder?

Nick takes off a glove and pets Charlie... :wah:
He's definitely lost our sympathy now.

They head there and find Charlie's frozen carcass.
Ugh. :(

Nick and Madeline approaching from another direction.
So he's going back to the people who he was trying to escape from, along with his new human girlfriend. Was he planning to take her home with him? Maybe the Freeze Diseeze makes him delerious.

Gus, seeing that the saucer, and Nick running toward it, are going to get away, climbs a siren tower to alert the local authorities.
It would probably be best to just let them go at this point.

And as the saucer takes off, it shoots a quick burst of energy at Nick, causing him to disintegrate.
So They must euthanize their sick, which would be consistent with what we've seen. Presumably the Freeze Diseeze is as fatal to them as it is to humans. They must have been chasing him only because he has information that could be damaging to them, since they wouldn't care that he was killing humans. But why would Nick escape and flee only to return? Again, he could have been delerious. And why was Madeline with him? Was he coercing her or did she think she was running away with her alien boyfriend?

David drives Madeline to a depot
In a stolen truck. :rommie:

where she can catch a bus to Wheeling, while she tries to come to terms with what her father died for.
Well, he died because of a whole series of stupid decisions that you made, Madeline. :rommie:

Clearly it's all a series of simulations meant to test their historical knowledge and TV Hero fighting skills.
I was thinking that Anne is Trelane's older sister and is just playing around with them. :rommie:

For a show that aired later in the decade, it's got an early '70s leftover '60s vibe to it.
Like Flipper or Daktari, it seems.

As a matter of fact, the Norman Fell episode opened with Mad Jack falling into a pit trap that Fell's character had set. And Ben wandered away to be captured by Fell after Grizzly had a pile of rocks fall on him and was left for dead...Mad Jack and Nakoma never having bothered to unbury him to make sure.
Darwin is going too easy on these guys. :rommie:

I should clarify that Fell's character had a one-man traveling wagon show with a meager assortment of mostly small critters.
Like a mobile petting zoo?

Or it could be that while they're capable of interstellar travel, it isn't easy for them. Their saucers are pretty small, so there's only so much junk they could haul to Earth.
Yeah, that could be it as well.

Mine also included a few who were unfamiliar to me. In fact, I think I had to narrow it down to "classic" TV landlords so I didn't get a bunch of stuff from more modern shows.
I'll try that.
 
They should have called it The Bad Timing Tunnel.
Or The Interesting Times Tunnel.

It would have been cool if they re-released that movie to theaters with the Time Tunnel footage edited in. Or maybe it wouldn't have. I dunno.
They're just using the movies for big battle scenes and such. I'm sure there would've been continuity issues with the cast inside the fort.

Who's King of the Wild Frontier now?
Grizzly Adams could rise to fill that void.

"His name used to be Colonel Jones, but there was already a Colonel Jones, so he changed it."
Had to verify that I Capped it.

Jock. Ewing, that is.
Ah...I never recognize him when he comes up.

That was after Sam Beckett intervened. He can change things, even if Tony and Doug can't.
You should write crossover stories of them running into each other at the same historical events.

What happened to Doug being badly injured?
He was brandishing the rifle from a sitting position, and I think Tony was the one who overpowered the guard and took it from him.

Why does he need to be smuggled?
Apparently because the scout had ambitions to sell him at first...possibly because somebody thought James Darren looked good in a gag (not the first time).

You'd think being in the middle of Tic Toc HQ would be pretty convincing.
It would be an overwhelmingly strange environment to most of the people pulled there.

You'd think the supply shed would look pretty good at this point. And what about him being badly injured? :rommie:
At this point he'd been recovering.

Apparently still no voice contact in this episode.
Nope...still hasn't been done again.

"Yes, Mister Wayne, we're looking into your 'Mister Freeze' theory. Stop calling every five minutes."
"B-A-T-M-A-N."

He just stole the guy's truck?
Pretty much borrowed it without asking while telling the guy to make a phone call. Somebody contributing caps of Invaders episodes is being cute with them.

He just pummelled a police officer, stole his weapon, and kidnapped a kid?
The officer was Alien Deputy.

"We're not like the Nazis! The Nazis were successful!"
Not in the long run.

Yeah, the plot and the Nick character are pretty contradictory. He seems to be on the run from both Them and local authorities. He says that the Them aren't all bad, suggesting that he opposes his own people, but then says that humans are savages not worth saving. The story can't seem to decide what it's doing.
I think he was desperate. He said that the virus was fatal to him.

Pretty good, since she was preceded by Suzanne Pleshette and Barbara Luna. :rommie:
It's gotta run both ways, he doesn't just get pick of the litter.

"Come on, Earthlings, group hug!"
:lol:

See, this is why you have to watch over people who have a concussion. :rommie:
Indeed. David's injuries may be having a cumulative effect.

Doesn't that still count as murder?
Them Lives Matter!

He's definitely lost our sympathy now.
I saw it coming just because the pooch was conspicuously placed.

The frozen carcass wasn't as bad...it looked pretty fakey.

So he's going back to the people who he was trying to escape from, along with his new human girlfriend. Was he planning to take her home with him? Maybe the Freeze Diseeze makes him delerious.
I think he needed her to show him the way through the woods and he was planning to off her like all the others, which David saved her from.

So They must euthanize their sick, which would be consistent with what we've seen. Presumably the Freeze Diseeze is as fatal to them as it is to humans.
It was implied that it didn't freeze them--Nick specifically said that the freezing effect was something that happened to David's kind. And we didn't see any aliens killed in that manner.

They must have been chasing him only because he has information that could be damaging to them, since they wouldn't care that he was killing humans. But why would Nick escape and flee only to return? Again, he could have been delerious. And why was Madeline with him? Was he coercing her or did she think she was running away with her alien boyfriend?
She didn't know he was an alien at that point; she thought she was helping an alleged serial killer.

In a stolen truck. :rommie:
Different wheels in the Epilog. I think it was the Thematic Duo's blue coupe. The only good alien is a dead alien who leaves their keys in the ignition.

Like Flipper or Daktari, it seems.
Both '60s shows. Erin Moran must've been pretty young in the latter.

Like a mobile petting zoo?
He had them doing simple tricks, only feeding them if they performed.
 
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Or The Interesting Times Tunnel.
I wonder if they'll travel to ancient China and everybody will understand each other. :rommie:

They're just using the movies for big battle scenes and such. I'm sure there would've been continuity issues with the cast inside the fort.
I was thinking that the contrast would have been entertaining. :rommie:

Grizzly Adams could rise to fill that void.
Was he in the same time period?

Had to verify that I Capped it.
:D

You should write crossover stories of them running into each other at the same historical events.
Could be interesting. It would have to be a pastiche, but I've done that before.

Apparently because the scout had ambitions to sell him at first...possibly because somebody thought James Darren looked good in a gag (not the first time).
I don't think I want to know about that. :rommie:

It would be an overwhelmingly strange environment to most of the people pulled there.
So much so that they would be inclined to believe whatever they were told, I'd think.

Nope...still hasn't been done again.
Weird how I remember it happening all the time.

Pretty much borrowed it without asking while telling the guy to make a phone call. Somebody contributing caps of Invaders episodes is being cute with them.
Wise guy. :rommie: I don't imagine IMDB is too happy with that.

The officer was Alien Deputy.
True, and the kid was an alien too.

Not in the long run.
No, but they were doing pretty good for a while.

I think he was desperate. He said that the virus was fatal to him.
I wondered about that.

It's gotta run both ways, he doesn't just get pick of the litter.
True. :rommie:

Them Lives Matter!
It would be interesting if the show progressed to the point where the Supreme Court had to rule on the legal status of intelligent non-human beings. :rommie:

The frozen carcass wasn't as bad...it looked pretty fakey.
Creepy, though. Sometimes fakey is worse. :rommie:

I think he needed her to show him the way through the woods and he was planning to off her like all the others, which David saved her from.
She was the Princess of Bad Decisions.

It was implied that it didn't freeze them--Nick specifically said that the freezing effect was something that happened to David's kind. And we didn't see any aliens killed in that manner.
Probably contagious, though.

She didn't know he was an alien at that point; she thought she was helping an alleged serial killer.
That's much better. :rommie:

Different wheels in the Epilog. I think it was the Thematic Duo's blue coupe. The only good alien is a dead alien who leaves their keys in the ignition.
:rommie:

Both '60s shows. Erin Moran must've been pretty young in the latter.
I didn't even realize she was in it till now. I barely remember it.

He had them doing simple tricks, only feeding them if they performed.
Ah, a little circus.
 
I wonder if they'll travel to ancient China and everybody will understand each other. :rommie:
Coming Eventually:

Was he in the same time period?
1850s...and based on a historical figure.

I don't think I want to know about that. :rommie:
Ah, shoot--I was gonna post a cap but I'd already deleted the episode. Next time Tony gets gagged, I promise.

So much so that they would be inclined to believe whatever they were told, I'd think.
I think they're usually more in complete disbelief of their surroundings.

Weird how I remember it happening all the time.
Maybe they'll start going to town with it down the road.

Probably contagious, though.
And if it froze them and he caught it just like anybody else, then he'd have been causing a lot less trouble.

"Wait--before I shoot you, could you toss your keys on the ground?"

I didn't even realize she was in it till now. I barely remember it.
I'm not familiar with that show at all.
 
Cool. The Green Girl from Lost In Space is in it.

1850s...and based on a historical figure.
I didn't know that either.

Ah, shoot--I was gonna post a cap but I'd already deleted the episode. Next time Tony gets gagged, I promise.
I'm so grateful. :rommie:

I think they're usually more in complete disbelief of their surroundings.
I suppose they could take it as a dream or hallucination, but Tik Tock would be pretty vivid for somebody who lives in a world that barely has electric lights-- there's nothing in their brains that could create a hallucination like that.

Maybe they'll start going to town with it down the road.
I don't think this show has much of a road. :rommie:

"Wait--before I shoot you, could you toss your keys on the ground?"
"Title... registration... thank you... good-bye."

I'm not familiar with that show at all.
I can't say that I'm familiar with it. I remember the fact that I saw it, but I just get vague images.
 
50 Years Ago This Week


August 24
  • Stylianos Pattakos, Nikolaos Makarezos, and former president George Papadopoulos, the three Greek Army colonels who had led the 1967 military coup in Greece, were sentenced to death after being convicted of treason and insurrection, while eight other defendants (including former president Demetrios Ioannidis) received life sentences, and seven others got terms ranging from 4 to 20 years. On August 25, the Greek cabinet voted to commute the sentences to life imprisonment.
  • Ed Halicki of the San Francisco Giants Major League Baseball team pitched a no-hitter against the New York Mets; the Giants wouldn't win another no-hitter until 2009.

August 25
  • Bruce Springsteen's album Born to Run was released in the United States, becoming a hit and making Springsteen a rock superstar [charts Sept. 13; #3 US; #36 UK; #18 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2003)].
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August 27
  • The death of Haile Selassie I, the last Emperor of Ethiopia, was announced by the African republic's radio station. Officially, the 83-year-old deposed Emperor had been found dead in his palace, and had been in failing health after prostate surgery two months earlier, and he was buried in a "secret location" by orders of President Mengistu. After the overthrow of the Mengistu regime 16 years later, Selassie's body was unearthed from a grave beneath Mengistu's office at the former Imperial Palace, and it was revealed that the Emperor had been smothered with a pillow while sleeping, after he refused to provide information about his overseas bank accounts.
  • The defendants in the 1970 shootings at Kent State University were acquitted of all responsibility for the May 4, 1970, killing of four students. Former Ohio Governor James A. Rhodes, former KSU President Robert I. White, and 27 members of the Ohio National Guard had been sued by the parents of the four students for $46 million.

August 28
  • The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced a ban on the use of polyvinyl chloride plastic for packaging of certain foods, because of its potential for causing cancer. At the time, PVC was the second most-used plastic in American food packaging. Although PVC film wrapping of meat and fruits was still permitted, the use of hard PVC plastic on lunch meat packages, and for bottles of liquids, was to be prohibited.
  • The FBI released the first 725 of 48,000 pages of its files concerning Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, 22 years after the American couple's execution for treason. The materials were made available following a Freedom of Information Act request by Professor Allen Weinstein of Smith College.

August 29
  • Juan Velasco Alvarado was deposed as President of Peru by a military coup, after seven years of dictatorial rule. His prime minister, General Francisco Morales Bermudez, was installed as Velasco's successor.
  • The nova V1500 Cygni was first observed on Earth, reaching a magnitude of 1.7 the next day, making it bright enough to be visible with the naked eye. It would remain visible for about a week. It was the second brightest nova of the 20th century, exceeded only by CP Puppis in 1942. The distance of the V1500 Cygni was calculated at 1.95 kiloparsecs (6,360 light years), so the nova occurred in roughly 4400 BC.

August 30
  • The Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter, sometimes called the London Convention of 1972, entered into force.
  • At the Statler Hilton Hotel in New York City, the Libertarian Party held its second nominating convention, selecting Roger MacBride as its candidate for President of the United States in the 1976 election. After the 1972 election, MacBride, one of 12 Virginian Republicans in the Electoral College, broke ranks and cast one electoral vote for the Libertarian candidate, John Hospers.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Get Down Tonight," KC & The Sunshine Band
2. "Fallin' in Love," Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
3. "Rhinestone Cowboy," Glen Campbell
4. "One of These Nights," Eagles
5. "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)," James Taylor
6. "Jive Talkin'," Bee Gees
7. "At Seventeen," Janis Ian
8. "Someone Saved My Life Tonight," Elton John
9. "Why Can't We Be Friends?," War
10. "Fight the Power, Pt. 1," The Isley Brothers
11. "Fame," David Bowie
12. "Could It Be Magic," Barry Manilow
13. "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights," Freddy Fender
14. "Feel Like Makin' Love," Bad Company
15. "That's the Way of the World," Earth, Wind & Fire
16. "Ballroom Blitz," Sweet
17. "Holdin' On to Yesterday," Ambrosia
18. "Third Rate Romance," Amazing Rhythm Aces
19. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille
20. "I'm Sorry," John Denver
21. "Tush," ZZ Top
22. "Help Me Rhonda," Johnny Rivers
23. "Run Joey Run," David Geddes

25. "(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates
26. "Solitaire," Carpenters
27. "Daisy Jane," America
28. "Dance with Me," Orleans
29. "Feelings," Morris Albert

31. "Please Mr. Please," Olivia Newton-John
32. "How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters

34. "Ain't No Way to Treat a Lady," Helen Reddy
35. "It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares

38. "Rocky," Austin Roberts
39. "Games People Play," The Spinners
40. "Sweet Maxine," The Doobie Brothers
41. "Midnight Blue," Melissa Manchester
42. "Gone at Last," Paul Simon / Phoebe Snow & The Jessy Dixon Singers
43. "I'm Not in Love," 10cc
44. "The Rockford Files," Mike Post
45. "Brazil," The Ritchie Family

52. "Lady Blue," Leon Russell
53. "Do It Any Way You Wanna," Peoples Choice

57. "Listen to What the Man Said," Wings

60. "Send in the Clowns," Judy Collins
61. "Miracles," Jefferson Starship

63. "What a Diff'rence a Day Makes," Esther Phillips

65. "Main Title (Theme from 'Jaws')," John Williams
66. "I Only Have Eyes for You," Art Garfunkel

73. "Katmandu," Bob Seger

78. "Who Loves You," The Four Seasons

83. "This Will Be (An Everlasting Love)," Natalie Cole

85. "Out of Time," The Rolling Stones
86. "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain," Willie Nelson

88. "Sky High," Jigsaw


96. "Eighteen with a Bullet," Pete Wingfield

Leaving the chart:
  • "Dynomite, Pt. I," Tony Camillo's Bazuka (20 weeks)
  • "The Hustle," Van McCoy & The Soul City Symphony (19 weeks)
  • "I'm on Fire," Dwight Twilley Band (18 weeks)
  • "Just a Little Bit of You," Michael Jackson (12 weeks)
  • "Mornin' Beautiful," Tony Orlando & Dawn (10 weeks)

New on the chart:

"Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain," Willie Nelson
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(#21 US; #12 AC; #1 Country; #302 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])

"This Will Be (An Everlasting Love)," Natalie Cole
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(#6 US; #45 AC; #1 R&B; #32 UK)

"Sky High," Jigsaw
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(#3 US; #4 AC; #9 UK)



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month, with minor editing as needed.



Cool. The Green Girl from Lost In Space is in it.
Looks like it's gonna be a yellowface extravaganza--I don't see a single Asian actor in the cast list.

I didn't know that either.
Very loosely based, it seems. I didn't catch anything about being wanted for murder, and his history involved taming several bears.

I suppose they could take it as a dream or hallucination, but Tik Tock would be pretty vivid for somebody who lives in a world that barely has electric lights-- there's nothing in their brains that could create a hallucination like that.
All the better to make them think that they're going insane.
 
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Stylianos Pattakos, Nikolaos Makarezos, and former president George Papadopoulos, the three Greek Army colonels
Boy, I would never know these guys are Greek. :rommie:

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(#86 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])
I absolutely love this one. It equals "Born to Run" for greatness. The whole album is definitely a classic.

After the overthrow of the Mengistu regime 16 years later, Selassie's body was unearthed from a grave beneath Mengistu's office
A literal case of dancing on the graves of your enemies. :rommie:

it was revealed that the Emperor had been smothered with a pillow while sleeping, after he refused to provide information about his overseas bank accounts.
So they're still out there. Collecting interest.

Juan Velasco Alvarado was deposed as President of Peru by a military coup, after seven years of dictatorial rule.
More dictators, more military coups. People gotta learn to chill out, man.

The nova V1500 Cygni was first observed on Earth, reaching a magnitude of 1.7 the next day, making it bright enough to be visible with the naked eye. It would remain visible for about a week.
Sadly, I was not aware of this.

At the Statler Hilton Hotel in New York City, the Libertarian Party held its second nominating convention, selecting Roger MacBride as its candidate for President of the United States in the 1976 election. After the 1972 election, MacBride, one of 12 Virginian Republicans in the Electoral College, broke ranks and cast one electoral vote for the Libertarian candidate, John Hospers.
"And what are your qualifications to be president, sir?"
"I'm a faithless elector!"

"Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain," Willie Nelson
Oh, yeah, I do know this. Nice. Mild nostalgic value.

"This Will Be (An Everlasting Love)," Natalie Cole
Good one. Strong nostalgic value.

"Sky High," Jigsaw
Another good one. Strong nostalgic value.

Very loosely based, it seems. I didn't catch anything about being wanted for murder, and his history involved taming several bears.
Eventually "based on" becomes "inspired by." :rommie:

All the better to make them think that they're going insane.
I think General Kirk enjoys that. :rommie:

Never heard of Jigsaw or "Sky High"
Must be one of those regional things. It was a pretty solid hit around here.
 
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