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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Last month, I neglected to post a clip of Bill Haley & His Comets performing on Ed Sullivan (Aug. 7):
This guy must be thirty years old. What does he know about Rock'n'Roll?

Under the guidance of Dr. Humphry Osmond, TV presenter Christopher Mayhew ingests 400 mg of mescaline hydrochloride and allows himself to be filmed as part of a Panorama special for BBC TV that is never broadcast.
That's hilarious. Apparently they didn't get what they were expecting. I wonder if that film is available anywhere. :rommie:

Little Richard records "Tutti Frutti" in New Orleans with significantly cleaned up lyrics (originally "Tutti Frutti, good booty" among other things); it is released in October.
Now I want to hear the real thing. :rommie:

This is a pretty good song, but it's funny to think of it co-existing with early Rock.

Project Vanguard begins operations.
Bah! I don't buy into this Flash Gordon stuff.

Long-running US TV series Gunsmoke is broadcast for the first time, on the CBS-TV network.
It was a continuation of a popular radio drama starring William Conrad as Matt Dillon. I'll never understand why they didn't let him play the part on TV.

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Matt Dillon is a pretty solid guy. The wind is blowing so hard in that clip that it makes the gravestones sway like they were made of cardboard, but it doesn't faze him a bit. :rommie:

He forgot to sound like Elvis.

"Mystery Train," Elvis Presley
This is pretty good....

#77 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])
But I wouldn't go that far. :rommie:

On September 17, the Warner Bros. short Speedy Gonzales, starring the voices of Mel Blanc and Stan Freberg, is released (1956 Academy Award for Best Short Subject, Cartoons).
Ah, the classics.

Undisputed Heavyweight Champion Rocky Marciano beats Undisputed Light Heavyweight champion Archie Moore by a knockout in round nine.
I'm not sure if he was still fighting when I was a kid, but I remember his name.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, President of the United States, suffers a coronary thrombosis while on vacation in Denver, Colorado. Vice President Richard Nixon serves as Acting President while Eisenhower recovers.
It didn't hurt his re-election prospects any, which seems to me pretty amazing for the 50s. Of course, you have to take the competition into consideration, too, I suppose.

Operation Sandcastle: UK cargo ship Empire Claire is scuttled with a load of 16,000 German chemical bombs at 56°30′N 12°00′W.
That probably had no negative impact on the environment at all.

Also on September 27, Detective Comics #225 (cover dated Nov.) hits the stands--featuring the debut of J'onn J'onzz, the Manhunter from Mars.
I always thought Martian Manhunter was pretty cool, even though he always seemed to remain a minor character.

American actor James Dean dies in an automobile collision near Cholame, California, age 24. On October 27, the film Rebel Without a Cause, in which he stars, is released.
It's a shame that he died so young, but he's one of those major heartthrobs of the era, like Marily Monroe, whose appeal I never understood.

They may use a very similar design (reportedly silver-skinned aliens were an Irwin Allen trope), but I doubt they'll make any connection in-story.
Maybe it will explain that missing spaceship. :rommie:

The typical formula gets a little tiresome in its repetitiveness. Generally lots of Doug and Tony being split up, with at least one of them being captured.
They didn't really do as much with the concept as they could have.

Timely reference.
So I see. :rommie:

Indeed. :D

That's the way it was played.
They must be related to the Invaders aliens.

And both involving John Hoyt.
Hmmm....

You ain't seen nothing yet....
Cool, can't wait. :rommie:

1915. It was implied that looters had indeed been there.
Right, WW1. Why was I thinking 1815? Because of Napoleon? I can't keep all these time jumps straight. :rommie:

I vaguely remember this one. I think the Joker fought against the Red Skull because the Joker may be a psychotic criminal, but he's an American psychotic criminal.

More formula. It'd be dead easy to come up with a random plot generator for this series.
Yes, and a drinking game. :rommie:

It was a striking bit of fight choreography.
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Yeah, that's pretty good.

Apparently it was supposed to be Northern Italy.
Either way, it's an odd place for Nero to be decomposing, and the story didn't seem to offer any justification.

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"Italienisch schweinhund! You are no match for die übermensch!"
At least he's putting his buried alternate personalities to good use. :rommie:

I guess the Italians aren't going to keep bombarding it when their own guys are in there...which makes you wonder why it was destroyed.
Exactly. A weird loose end, like the missing saucer in the last one.

Not first-hand that I can recall, but I've heard of it.
It was basically a TV version of the lurid flying saucer stories that were popular at the time. I was pretty into it for a while.

I have them all in hand at the moment, but my full batch of episodes will be expiring in early December.
It's kind of a pain in the neck that they expire. I recorded the pilot of Adam-12 for my Sister and it was gone when she went to watch it.

This week's episode had an odd issue with the show's own continuity. One of the plotlines involves Mad Jack finding gold in a stream and wanting to stake a claim on it. When Adams was talking about having to leave because of all the people that would be swarming the mountain, I thought Jack was being pretty dense about his friend's fugitive situation (which he narrates about in the opening of every episode). But the fugitive angle never came up, it was played like Adams just didn't want to see the mountain's natural beauty get destroyed...which is nice and all, but it seems like the fugitive situation should at least have been addressed.
I'm sensing a lot of either apathy or disorganization behind the scenes.

There have been some lower-charting ones (30s and 40s) recently about Watergate and the energy crisis.
That sounds like what I'm thinking of.

50 years ago this week, possibly my second-ever superhero comic hit the stands:
I do remember that cover.
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"The Walls of Jericho"
Originally aired January 27, 1967
MeTV said:
Warrior-prophet Joshua sends Tony and Doug into Jericho as spies before he attacks the Biblical city.

And Joshua the son of Nun sent out of Shittim two men to spy secretly, saying, Go view the land, even Jericho. And they went, and came into an harlot's house, named Rahab, and lodged there.
--Joshua 2:1​

The guys tumble into a tented encampment during a storm and quickly find themselves in a tussle with some anciently armored types. They're dramatically allowed to lose this one to find themselves at the mercy of Joshua (Rhodes Reason), commander of...
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3,500-ish years later, Ann expresses skepticism regarding the biblical account, though Kirk affirms his belief, while Swain hedges in-between. Joshua thinks that the strangers may be spies of the King of Jericho, whose city Joshua is preparing to lay siege to, but Tony's Scripture Fu convinces him that they're serving the same God, so he decides to use them as his spies instead.

Joshua has his army march toward a wall of the city as a diversion for Tony and Doug to climb in garbed in native attire. The oracle-informed faith of King Malek (Arnold Moss) that Jericho's walls are impregnable is affirmed when the Israelites retreat. The guys break cover to intervene as the king publicly offers a young virgin named Shala (Cynthia Lane) as sacrifice at the altar of Khemosh, and are overcome in the ensuing brawl...but the girl is saved by the king's belief that she's now been soiled by their touch after Doug carried her off the altar.

Tony finds an opportunity to make a break for it, and as the captain of the guard (Michael Pate) leads a search for him, he takes refuge in what happens to be the dwelling of Shala's grateful older sister, who was at the canceled sacrifice. Tony recognizes her from the scripture as Rahab (Myrna Fahey), and realizes that he's now part of an actual biblical account of two Israelite spies who were sheltered by her! While Rahab fears the power of the Israelite God, her servant, Ahza (Lisa Gaye), a believer in Khemosh, advises against hiding Tony from Malek. Meanwhile, Ann insists that Doug be transferred to save him from being tortured on the rack--a position from which he briefly debates Malek about the Israelite God's might--but Kirk falls back on the biblical account to assert that Doug's going to be alright, and the Tunnel loses its fix.

Rahab shares her longtime dreams of the fall of Jericho--her resentment of the city fueled by the dishonorable occupation via which she supports her family--and Tony informs her of a book of divine revelation called the Bible that tells of how the fall will come to pass and names her as the only survivor. Ahza brings Rahab's father (Abraham Sofaer), an architect who designed the palace before being blinded by Malek as a security precaution. The architect describes for Tony a secret passage into the dungeon, and Rahab takes Ahza with her to keep an eye on the entrance location as Tony sneaks in to free Doug...which involves overcoming the brawny torturer (Tiger Joe Marsh) via TV Fu. While they're sneaking back out the passage with the help of Rahab distracting the captain, a Bible-consulting Kirk and the others watch as their fix drifts to Joshua giving a speech to his army about God's plan to have them circle the walls seven times before blasting their horns. Malek informs the captain of the second spy's escape and orders a house-by-house search for the pair.

The guys return to Rahab's, where she hides them on her walk-up rooftop as the captain's party comes to search the place. Rahab's father supports her in covering for the guys, but Ahza, when questioned, glances upward in a signal to the captain. The captain goes up and thrusts his sword into the flax behind which the guys were hiding, but Rahab sees that they've escaped through an opening in the roof and distracts the captain again from finding it. Ahza takes interest at the captain's parting announcement of a hefty reward for information leading to the capture of the spies, and rushes out to tell a guard while Rahab finds the guys; but is caught sneaking back in. Ahza confesses while expressing her resentment of being the servant of a harlot. Tony sets up a red sash to signal the Almighty while reaffirming the Holy Word that her house will be spared. Doug has time to climb out the window before the captain arrives to catch Tony, and Ahza is disappointed that her only reward is the jewelry that Rahab is wearing, as the captain plans to claim the reward himself.

As the two of them are chained to an outdoor temple wall, Tony promises Rahab that a miracle will save them, then foretells the future to Malek by quoting scripture, even as Joshua's men are heard marching around the walls. In 1968 A.D., Ann's ready to defy Kirk as he insists that the Bible has got the guys' backs, but a panel short-circuits to stop her.

Kirk: The decision has been taken out of our hands.​

Doug is returned to Joshua, and as Ahza incites the surrounding peasants to stone Rahab and Tony, Joshua has the horns sounded.
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On cue, a tornado appears from nowhere...cue fellow Hoosier:
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Ann adamantly insists that this is a natural phenomenon, not a miracle.

Dr. Swain: Whatever creates faith is a miracle.​

Doug finds the architect and rushes to free Tony and Rahab, stopping Malek from stabbing them before the Heavy Hand of God topples the not-so-heavy statue of Khemosh onto the king. Tony bids Rahab to return to the safety of her home and promises that he'll always be with her before the guys are pulled out in front of her eyes.

Wiki said:
In some time zones, during the original broadcast of this episode, the program was interrupted by an ABC News Bulletin regarding the death of three astronauts (Virgil "Gus" Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee) in a fire in the Apollo 1 command module, while preparing for launch of the first Apollo space mission, on the launch pad at the Kennedy Space Center. In other time zones, the interruption came while Rango was airing.

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I could've loaded this post with Raiders references, there were so many similar beats.



The Time Tunnel
"Idol of Death"
Originally aired February 3, 1967
MeTV said:
In 1519, Tony and Doug vow to slow down Cortez's conquest of Mexico.

Tony and Doug tumble onto a tropic set that's not supposed to be an island this time, to witness a pair of conquistadors pursuing a native, the crossbowman (Abel Fernandez) shooting him in the back while overseen by Capt. Alvarado (Lawrence Montaigne). Some movie footage of a larger force cues the guys in that they've landed in the middle of Cortez's invasion, which Doug describes as "one of the biggest bloodbaths in history". They subsequently come upon Alvarado threatening a chief and his family, all tied to trees, for information with a torch. The guys jump into action and are quickly captured.

The guys soon find themselves in the presence of Hernando Cortez (Anthony Caruso), who assumes that they're spies for Governor Velasquez of Cuba. Cortez proceeds to personally interrogate the chief's wife about the location of a golden mask important to his plans, getting her to squeal off-camera (so she doesn't have to be credited) by burning her husband. Cortez then breaks his promise to her, ordering her and the chief executed, though their adult son (Teno Pollick) is spared. TT estimates that it's early October 1519, and research Cortez's movements to determine that he's now in the Veracruz area. While Cortez is questioning Tony about which of his ships brought spies, Tony relieves a soldier of his 19th-century US Navy cutlass and holds it to Cortez's throat to have him release Doug and the Indian lad, but is quickly resubdued and ordered to be executed along with his friend.

Cortez exposits to Alvarado that the mask is a symbol of authority that will enable him to control the Tlaxcaltec tribesmen, then oversees the burning of his ships to dedicate his men to the conquest. Meanwhile, an elder retainer (Peter Brocco) sneaks out of the jungle to free the chief's son and his companions. When Cortez returns, Doug threatens to ignite a barrel of gunpowder to give the others a chance to escape; and explains to Cortez his motivation of being unable to stand by while one of the worst butchers in history goes to work. Doug makes a break after igniting the spilled line of powder leading to the barrel, which one of Cortez's men promptly moves.

Tony and Doug encourage the chief's son--who's timid because he's a surviving third son who wasn't taught useful chiefly skills like the arts of battle or how to grow crops--to help his people resist the Spaniards. He agrees to help them locate the sacred cave where the mask is kept before the Spaniards do. Along the way, after testing a barrel of inadequate gunpowder that they brought with them, the guys come upon some potassium nitrate that will help them make it more potent. In 1968, Kirk has the Mexican Embassy rush in an expert in the Veracruz area, Mr. Castillano (Rodolfo Hoyos), to help them identify landmarks that will help them to pull the guys out. A newcomer to time travel, he's amazed at the sight of TunnelVision, which Kirk describes as showing "the living past".

At some ruins that serve as a waypoint, the retainer knifes a Spanish soldier, and Tony gives the young chief a stern little lecture about having no stomach for killing--like Tony knows so much about these things. The retainer is in turn crossbowed by Alvarado's man while scouting for other Spaniards. (Found 'em...!) When Alvarado arrives to inspect the ruins, the guys go into hiding and trigger a gunpowder trap that turns out to be ineffectual, only tossing the Spaniards off their balance for a bit. When Alvarado calls for the guys to come out of hiding, they learn of the servant's fate, which ignites in the young chief a thirst for vengeance. Back in 1968, a belated background check turns up that Castillano is an archaeologist with a history of illegal artifact removal. When confronted, Castillano admits that he's been searching for the golden mask for decades; and Kirk gets the impression that their guest is playing games with them. Back in 1519, Tony keeps Alvarado occupied on the trail with a crossbow while Doug and Young Chief proceed to the beachfront cave everyone is looking for. YC enters and is taken down by Alvarado's crossbowman, who's taken a shortcut to beat everyone there. Tony and Alvarado arrive at about the same time, the guys finding themselves surrounded.

As everyone's entering the cave, back in 1968, Castillano offers a deal--the location of the cave if TT will bring back the golden mask. In the cave, the mask is found, displayed on a pile of gold. Alvarado taking the mask spurs YC into a rage, and the guys use the distraction to initiate a brawl and some sword fighting. Alvarado gets his sword point to Tony's neck and compels the guys to serve as his pack animals in hauling the gold out. TT pulls the mask out, but the energy surge involved threatens to collapse the cave. As Castillano tries to stop them from sending the mask back (which will somehow patch the cave back up), Ann puts the living past on pause to keep the guys alive, and Castillano grabs an MP's gun to hold everyone at bay while he takes the mask out of the Tunnel. The TT crew determine that they have to send back the mask to restore the time fix and unfreeze the guys. While Castillano is cradling and talking sweetly to his precious, Kirk has his men make their move, initiating an exchange of gunfire in which the general participates. When Castillano runs out of ammo, he defiantly tosses the mask back into the Tunnel to keep anyone else from having it...which is exactly what the TT crew needed him to do, at the exact last second before they lost their fix.

Castillano is taken into custody, and the time freeze is released. (As IMDb points out, the torches in the cave continue to flicker as everyone's "frozen in time".) As the cave threatens to come down on everyone, Alvarado tries to compel the guys to carry out the gold, and the chief takes out the crossbowman with a hunk of gold. While the guys proceed to exit, Alvarado refuses to leave the treasure, killing his other man for trying to get him to leave. Young Chief also won't leave without the mask, going back in to take it as Alvarado is preoccupied with gathering the other gold. Reuniting with the guys, the YC learns some wisdom from Alvarado's avarice.

Tony: I think, at last, you're ready to lead your people.​
Doug: Yes...now you are a chief!​

How fortuitous that you guys happen to be around to determine such things! As Young Chief exits the cave, the guys are transferred out.

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This guy must be thirty years old.
Just turned.
What does he know about Rock'n'Roll?
This is why the world needed an Elvis.

Now I want to hear the real thing. :rommie:
I wonder if there are surviving outtakes....

This is a pretty good song, but it's funny to think of it co-existing with early Rock.
This is why the world needed rock 'n' roll.

Bah! I don't buy into this Flash Gordon stuff.
I'm guessing that all of this talk of our intent to send satellites up back in '55 is setting us up for being asleep at the switch in '57.

It was a continuation of a popular radio drama starring William Conrad as Matt Dillon. I'll never understand why they didn't let him play the part on TV.
I have an odd episode of the radio series in an early radio cassette set.

Matt Dillon is a pretty solid guy. The wind is blowing so hard in that clip that it makes the gravestones sway like they were made of cardboard, but it doesn't faze him a bit. :rommie:
:lol: I hadn't noticed that.

He forgot to sound like Elvis.
George liked it.
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This is pretty good....

But I wouldn't go that far. :rommie:
Fair enough.

It didn't hurt his re-election prospects any, which seems to me pretty amazing for the 50s. Of course, you have to take the competition into consideration, too, I suppose.
He also seemed to be one of those Teflon-coated chief execs.

I always thought Martian Manhunter was pretty cool, even though he always seemed to remain a minor character.
This is a stepping stone into the Silver Age, though not generally recognized as its launching point. There's a difference between continuity and real-world historical impact.

It's a shame that he died so young, but he's one of those major heartthrobs of the era, like Marily Monroe, whose appeal I never understood.
Those two are, first and foremost, icons of the era, in the true sense of the word before it got so badly watered down with overuse in recent decades.

Cool, can't wait. :rommie:
And there ya go.

I vaguely remember this one. I think the Joker fought against the Red Skull because the Joker may be a psychotic criminal, but he's an American psychotic criminal.
It was a pretty nifty, enjoyable one-shot. Its coda, in which Dick Grayson's Batman and Bruce Wayne Jr.'s Robin find the frozen Cap in '64 in place of the Avengers, was the launching point of Byrne's Superman/Batman: Generations series, which I recall you being familiar with.

Yes, and a drinking game. :rommie:
That, too.

Either way, it's an odd place for Nero to be decomposing, and the story didn't seem to offer any justification.
Yeah, history aside, I was wondering how his body ended up on the estate of his enemy's family.

Exactly. A weird loose end, like the missing saucer in the last one.
I went back to check, the last scene was in the count's study, which was fine and dandy with no explosions or shaking going on.

It's kind of a pain in the neck that they expire. I recorded the pilot of Adam-12 for my Sister and it was gone when she went to watch it.
My old cable DVR's recordings didn't expire, but I'd have to manage them for space or they could auto-delete.
 
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Good one. Some nostalgic value. :rommie:

3,500-ish years later, Ann expresses skepticism regarding the biblical account, though Kirk affirms his belief, while Swain hedges in-between.
Interesting mix there.

Joshua thinks that the strangers may be spies
Drink!

Tony's Scripture Fu convinces him that they're serving the same God
But is he serious or just working the crowd?

The guys break cover to intervene as the king publicly offers a young virgin named Shala (Cynthia Lane) as sacrifice at the altar of Khemosh
When will they learn to mind their own business?

but the girl is saved by the king's belief that she's now been soiled by their touch after Doug carried her off the altar.
I suspect he'd be more likely to kill them both on the spot.

Tony recognizes her from the scripture as Rahab (Myrna Fahey), and realizes that he's now part of an actual biblical account of two Israelite spies who were sheltered by her!
"I wrote a paper on you!"

Ann insists that Doug be transferred to save him from being tortured on the rack--a position from which he briefly debates Malek about the Israelite God's might
Was the rack in use in the Middle East in 1500 BC?

but Kirk falls back on the biblical account to assert that Doug's going to be alright, and the Tunnel loses its fix.
Kirk is starting to scare me a little bit.

Tony informs her of a book of divine revelation called the Bible that tells of how the fall will come to pass and names her as the only survivor.
"Uh... can we edit in my dad and sister?"

a secret passage
Drink!

The guys return to Rahab's, where she hides them on her walk-up rooftop as the captain's party comes to search the place.
Dishonorable occupations pay well. :rommie:

Tony sets up a red sash to signal the Almighty while reaffirming the Holy Word that her house will be spared.
Okay....

Tony promises Rahab that a miracle will save them
"Well, actually, just you, because you're the sole survivor. Ann! Can you hear me? Help!"

In 1968 A.D., Ann's ready to defy Kirk as he insists that the Bible has got the guys' backs, but a panel short-circuits to stop her.
Wow.

Kirk: The decision has been taken out of our hands.
I'm never going to be able to look at Kirk the same again.

Or Tony, for that matter. :rommie:

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Good one. Some nostalgic value.

Dr. Swain: Whatever creates faith is a miracle.
What does that mean, Dr Swain? :rommie:

Tony bids Rahab to return to the safety of her home and promises that he'll always be with her before the guys are pulled out in front of her eyes.
I'm starting to wonder if it's not time that they're traveling through.

they've landed in the middle of Cortez's invasion, which Doug describes as "one of the biggest bloodbaths in history".
"I majored in Historical Bloodbath Comparisonology."

The guys jump into action and are quickly captured.
The guys are falling into the Batman pattern: They lose the first fight and win the final battle.

who assumes that they're spies
Drink!

Tony relieves a soldier of his 19th-century US Navy cutlass
Production error or evidence of earlier time travelers?

and explains to Cortez his motivation of being unable to stand by while one of the worst butchers in history goes to work.
Raising the philosophical question of whether more or less butchery would result from preserving the Aztec Empire.

He agrees to help them locate the sacred cave where the mask is kept
I question the historical veracity of this, but I really don't know.

testing a barrel of inadequate gunpowder
The bad gunpowder is sort of a running joke. :rommie:

In 1968, Kirk has the Mexican Embassy rush in an expert in the Veracruz area, Mr. Castillano
Drink!

A newcomer to time travel, he's amazed at the sight of TunnelVision, which Kirk describes as showing "the living past".
"By the way, I've raised your security clearance to level seven."

At some ruins that serve as a waypoint
Would they be ruins at that point?

Tony gives the young chief a stern little lecture about having no stomach for killing--like Tony knows so much about these things.
What the hell? Aren't 60s TV heroes supposed to be against killing? :rommie:

(Found 'em...!)
:rommie:

the guys go into hiding and trigger a gunpowder trap that turns out to be ineffectual
Does this qualify to be part of the drinking game yet? :rommie:

Back in 1968, a belated background check turns up that Castillano is an archaeologist with a history of illegal artifact removal. When confronted, Castillano admits that he's been searching for the golden mask for decades; and Kirk gets the impression that their guest is playing games with them.
Okay, this is an interesting twist.

back in 1968, Castillano offers a deal--the location of the cave if TT will bring back the golden mask.
Which, in a predestination paradox, would explain why he never found it. :rommie:

In the cave, the mask is found, displayed on a pile of gold.
Y'know, they've got all those big stone buildings and pyramids and stuff....

Ann puts the living past on pause to keep the guys alive
She can pause time?!?

Castillano grabs an MP's gun to hold everyone at bay while he takes the mask out of the Tunnel.
This guy's nuts. I love it. :rommie:

While Castillano is cradling and talking sweetly to his precious, Kirk has his men make their move, initiating an exchange of gunfire in which the general participates. When Castillano runs out of ammo, he defiantly tosses the mask back into the Tunnel to keep anyone else from having it...which is exactly what the TT crew needed him to do, at the exact last second before they lost their fix.
That's great. I always like it when there's action at TT HQ, but this was especially good. :rommie:

(As IMDb points out, the torches in the cave continue to flicker as everyone's "frozen in time".)
Ann held down ctrl-shft and selected certain items for the time pause.

Tony: I think, at last, you're ready to lead your people.
Doug: Yes...now you are a chief!
"By the way, your empire is doomed."

How fortuitous that you guys happen to be around to determine such things!
Apparently having knowledge of the future tends to make one pompous. :rommie:

This is why the world needed an Elvis.
Now there's an icon I can understand.

I wonder if there are surviving outtakes....
That would be fantastic.

This is why the world needed rock 'n' roll.
:rommie:

I'm guessing that all of this talk of our intent to send satellites up back in '55 is setting us up for being asleep at the switch in '57.
We definitely got off to a bad start.

I have an odd episode of the radio series in an early radio cassette set.
I'm sure there are episodes on YouTube. There's a ton of OTR on YouTube.

George liked it.
It wasn't bad, I just don't think I would have guessed it was Elvis.

He also seemed to be one of those Teflon-coated chief execs.
One of our more popular presidents, I think.

Those two are, first and foremost, icons of the era, in the true sense of the word before it got so badly watered down with overuse in recent decades.
I don't dispute their status, I just don't understand it.

And there ya go.
Indeed! :rommie:

It was a pretty nifty, enjoyable one-shot. Its coda, in which Dick Grayson's Batman and Bruce Wayne Jr.'s Robin find the frozen Cap in '64 in place of the Avengers, was the launching point of Byrne's Superman/Batman: Generations series, which I recall you being familiar with.
Yeah, I liked that. It's always interesting to see the passage of time affect fictional characters like that.

I went back to check, the last scene was in the count's study, which was fine and dandy with no explosions or shaking going on.
I guess maybe they do change the timeline.

My old cable DVR's recordings didn't expire, but I'd have to manage them for space or they could auto-delete.
Apparently XFinity recordings do expire, much to my chagrin.
 
Good one. Some nostalgic value. :rommie:
Perhaps some of it from about 7 years ago.

But is he serious or just working the crowd?
He seemed pretty sincere...maybe a little too much in parts.

When will they learn to mind their own business?
Doug vas uncomfortable vith ze thought of zat...Jewish ritual.

Ah, it vas pagan? Sehr gut!

Was the rack in use in the Middle East in 1500 BC?
Good question.

"Uh... can we edit in my dad and sister?"
I might've misunderstood what Tony was saying at one point, but when I looked up the actual biblical passage, it did take into account the well-being of her family. And I discovered that there were beats in the story that were pretty much just there to follow the biblical account.

Dishonorable occupations pay well. :rommie:
It was kinda like Lois's pad in Superman.

Straight outta the book.

Or Tony, for that matter. :rommie:
At least he didn't tell Rahab to keep her eyes shut.

Good one. Some nostalgic value.
Our man in Bloomington.

What does that mean, Dr Swain? :rommie:
This experience was affirming his wavering belief.

I'm starting to wonder if it's not time that they're traveling through.
Tony and Doug are in the Old Testament, what more do you want?

The guys are falling into the Batman pattern: They lose the first fight and win the final battle.
Tune in next post! Same Post-58th Time! Same Post-58th Channel!

Production error or evidence of earlier time travelers?
Honestly, I never would've known if I hadn't read it on IMDb.

The bad gunpowder is sort of a running joke. :rommie:
I didn't get the impression that the last blast after they found the potassium nitrate was supposed to be as ineffectual at it was...but they couldn't have the guys killing, despite Tony's bloodthirsty rhetoric this episode.

"By the way, I've raised your security clearance to level seven."
Coloneled.

Would they be ruins at that point?
Could be really ancient.

She can pause time?!?
Yeah, they've done this before. The odd thing is that they do act like they're really freezing time for the guys, not just pausing their monitoring.

This guy's nuts. I love it. :rommie:
"It belongs in a museum! MY museum!!!"

Now there's an icon I can understand.
Thankyaverrahmuch.

I don't dispute their status, I just don't understand it.
They had that it factor, that certain something.

Apparently XFinity recordings do expire, much to my chagrin.
Mine was Xfinity, and I could keep recordings for years if I managed the recording space. Might be a setting thing.
 
Perhaps some of it from about 7 years ago.
I don't think so. Was it in a movie soundtrack or something? My nostalgic twinge sort of blurs from the 60s into the early-to-mid 70s. I think it was one of those songs that WRKO used to play late at night.

He seemed pretty sincere...maybe a little too much in parts.
There did seem to be a lot of religious fervor in this one... which I personally find a bit disquieting. :rommie:

Doug vas uncomfortable vith ze thought of zat...Jewish ritual.

Ah, it vas pagan? Sehr gut!
:rommie:

I might've misunderstood what Tony was saying at one point, but when I looked up the actual biblical passage, it did take into account the well-being of her family. And I discovered that there were beats in the story that were pretty much just there to follow the biblical account.
Makes me wonder if Irwin Allen was particularly religious or something, but I don't really remember a lot of religion popping up in his shows. The only other example I can come up with off the top of my head is the Robinsons praying in their original pilot.

It was kinda like Lois's pad in Superman.
In one of the movies? I wouldn't remember or be aware.

Straight outta the book.
Makes sense. It kind of put me in mind of the lamb's blood thing in Ten Commandments.

At least he didn't tell Rahab to keep her eyes shut.
Jonesed. :rommie:

Our man in Bloomington.
I like him. He started out a little goofy, but then he grew up and took his real name back, which kind of impressed me.

This experience was affirming his wavering belief.
It's interesting how they spread out the various levels of faith. It makes sense that Kirk would be the traditionalist, but it's cool that they made Ann the real scientist and Swain the waffler. Given that it was the mid 60s, I would expect the opposite.

Tony and Doug are in the Old Testament, what more do you want?
Right, exactly. Stuff like that, plus their total disregard for changing the timeline, makes me think of Heinlein's World-As-Myth concept. I think they're just as likely to tumble into the Land of Oz as the Civil War.

Tune in next post! Same Post-58th Time! Same Post-58th Channel!
:mallory:

Honestly, I never would've known if I hadn't read it on IMDb.
It's amazing the things that people spot. :rommie:

I didn't get the impression that the last blast after they found the potassium nitrate was supposed to be as ineffectual at it was...but they couldn't have the guys killing, despite Tony's bloodthirsty rhetoric this episode.
True. :rommie:

Coloneled.
:D

Could be really ancient.
Looks like they could be as old as four hundred years or so.

Yeah, they've done this before. The odd thing is that they do act like they're really freezing time for the guys, not just pausing their monitoring.
Which raises the question of why they don't just leave them on pause until they can pluck them back.

"It belongs in a museum! MY museum!!!"
Jonesed again. :rommie:

They had that it factor, that certain something.
Clearly, but it just goes right past me for some reason.

Mine was Xfinity, and I could keep recordings for years if I managed the recording space. Might be a setting thing.
Now you're making me wonder if I accidentally deleted it. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Time Tunnel
"Billy the Kid"
Originally aired February 10, 1967
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The time travelers find themselves being hunted by Billy the Kid.

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The guys tumble into Lincoln, New Mexico Territory, as a gang of outlaws led by a guy named Wilson (Harry Lauter) rowdily rides into town, firing their pistols. Just as the guys are taking refuge in the sheriff's office, the gang barges in and frees Deputy Hayes's (Phil Chambers) prisoner, Billy (Robert Walker [Jr.] sporting big hair), whose first order of business is to ♫ shoot the deputy ♫. While menacing Tony for trying to grab his gun, Billy properly introduces himself as William Bonney, whom the guys immediately recognize as the titular outlaw. Their clothing draws attention for a change, as Billy teases them about it. Billy gives Tony a "sporting chance" to make a break for it and get shot, but Doug grabs another outlaw's gun and...shoots Billy!!! :wtf: He subsequently holds the room full of hardened outlaws at bay and rides off with Tony, firing his gun into the air. What the hell were the people making this show on and do they still make it?

The outlaws and observing TT gang assume that Billy's dead, but he turns out to have been shot in the belt buckle, and rises to ride off solo in search of the dude who shot him. Doug and Tony find an abandoned shack to hole up in with a stable to hide their horses. The TT crew determine that it's April 1881, and researching Bonney's contradictory history--still thinking that Billy's dead after having lost their fix--find that he's supposed to be killed three months later by Pat Garrett. This week's ominous clue is that Billy's list of killings include two unidentified strangers in Lincoln, April 1881. By day, Billy finds the stable. The guys are preparing to ride out, thinking that the gang will be coming after them, when Doug is surprised to return to the house and find Billy waiting for him.

Doug is actually relieved that he didn't change history, then babbles about how Billy will die 50 years before Doug is born. Billy takes this as expected, and when Tony comes in, shoots the gun out of his hand. Figuring that Garrett may have sent them, Billy prepares to shoot the two strange dudes. TT has regained their fix, but is having trouble maintaining power, needing to recharge their equipment--What, are they running that vast complex with a car battery? But they manage to pull a long-awaited old trick back out.

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Kirk: BILLY THE KID! WE'VE GOT YOU SURROUNDED! COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!

This leaves TT helpless to monitor or intervene for hours, but the distraction enables the guys to disarm Billy and beat him in a two-against-one brawl. Doug tells Billy that he heard a voice from the future. Figuring that it's time for the formulaic split-up, Tony volunteers to go into town to find Pat Garrett, but because he's wearing Billy's distinctive hat and notched pistol, the townsfolk assume that he's Billy. Deputies John Poe (John Crawford) and Tom McKinney (Pitt Herbert) get the drop on him and lock him up, promising that he'll stand trial for the murder of Deputy Hayes. The deputies are unconcerned with verifying that their prisoner is really Billy, and a mob begins to form outside. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, following an attempt by Billy to attack him while tied to a chair, Doug scavenges for water and hides when Wilson and the gang ride in to free Billy.

Tony figures his salvation has come when Sheriff Pat Garrett (Allen Case) returns to town, but everyone's faked out when Garrett addresses Tony as Billy, thinking that it may be a trick. He soon admits that Tony can't be Billy, however, and convinces his men of the same. But he fails to convince the mob outside, who won't leave without their necktie party and threaten to storm the sheriff's office. Garrett sends Poe out to find a nearby cattle drive and arrange a stampede through town to disperse the mob.

TT restores their fix as Doug's riding into town and witnesses the stampede that Poe's whipping up. Garrett fires shots that cause the mob to take cover just in time for the cattle to ride through, which serves as cover for Garrett and Tony to ride off. (Wherever they repurposed the stampede footage from, there was very visible barbed wire herding the cattle.) They ride back to the ranch to find Doug, his horse, and Billy gone. Garrett initially figures he's been had, but finds evidence that Tony's telling the truth...while Tony figures that given the lack of Doug's body, he must've gotten away from Billy. Billy and Wilson are back in town when Doug arrives, looking for Tony. The TT crew are counting the minutes until they have the power to transfer the guys, but monitoring the situation, figure they may not have those minutes. Billy walks out into the street, surprising Doug and challenging him to a showdown.

Pat rides on the scene and Tony leaps from his horse to tackle Wilson. Doug draws on Billy and misses...but Pat doesn't, shooting the gun out of Billy's hand. Pat takes Billy and Wilson into custody, and Doug is taking in his near-death experience when Billy and a few of the townsfolk witness the guys disappearing. Garrett pays no heed, figuring that Billy's trying to trick him.

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The Time Tunnel
"Pirates of Deadman's Island"
Originally aired February 17, 1967
MeTV said:
In 1805, the travelers try to escape from a pirate's Barbary Coast lair before it is shelled by U.S. warships.
Wiki said:
This is the last episode to have the opening narration.

The two American (sounds like he's saying "arrogant") scientists tumble helplessly onto the deck of a pirate ship in the middle of a battle. The movie they're showing on deck is Captain Horatio Hornblower (1951), accompanied by scoring from The Enemy Below (1957). The TAS are taken for enemies and knocked out. At the pirates' island supply lair, they're brought before Cap'n Beal (Victor Jory), who attempts to assess his prospects for ransoming them.

Tony: I have some relatives in Philadelphia. Only trouble is they haven't been born yet.​

The cap'n orders them shot instead.

IMDb said:
The Barbary Pirates were based on the coast of North Africa in modern-day Libya. The pirates were for the most part Arab Muslims. The pirates depicted here are European and dress as if it's 1705, not 1805.

The execution is interrupted by the bringing forth of a more valuable prisoner--young Armando del Geddeo (Pepito Galindo), a nephew of the King of Spain. Tony and Doug ask him to put up a ransom IOU for them, and he persuades the cap'n to let him take them on as his servants during his captivity. At the first opportunity, the guys sneak out with the boy by night to attempt to find civilization, only for them to discover that the obvious island set is an island. They're promptly recaptured and the cap'n presents their mute executioner, Mali (uncredited Tiger Joe Marsh). At TT, Gen. Kirk's been burning the midnight oil at a desk in the control center (finally another indication that the crew isn't always on duty), so Ann arranges a house call from Dr. Ben Berkhart (Regis Toomey)--a staff medic who's about to retire, though it's his first day on the job for us.

The guys try to take on Mali two-to-one in a comical fight that involves Tony riding on the brute's shoulders while delivering multiple ineffective TV Fu chops. The brawl is interrupted when a pirate ship returns to the island and they learn of three American ships headed for the island to bombard it. The guys and their Royal Boy Wonder stage another failed escape attempt, which gets the guys staked out on the beach for the rising tide. At this point I was expecting a William Dozier next-episode announcement.

As the guys' trousers are getting soaked, the bombardment begins. The group of pirates watching the little prince are stunned by an explosion that cannonballs don't make; and he gets away long enough to free his servants. As they try to seek refuge from the fire, the pirates catch up, head-grazing Tony with gunfire and leaving him on the beach, while Doug is TV Fu chopped by a 16th-century pirate and taken with the boy to the ship in which the pirates plan to fight their way out. A recovering Tony swims out to one of the American ships and tries to dissuade Captain Stephan Decatur (Charles Bateman) from attacking the ship, telling him about the prince; but Decatur is now committed to the engagement. At TT, Doc Berkhart takes in some TunnelVision and, having been mulling over what he'd do in his retirement, wonders aloud how many of the combatants he might be able to save.

TT tries to pull Doug and the prince off the ship...and get Cap'n Beal instead [tosses one back]! While Kirk tries to reason with him, Beal holds off a group of MPs with a flintlock and saber and takes Ann as a hostage. He drags her to the Forbidden Planet shaft and, suspecting witchcraft, threatens to throw her over the bridge. Kirk catches up and offers to return the cap'n to his treasure-laden ship. Beal goes along with a knife to Ann's throat, while Swain struggles to regain his fix on the ship to save her. When its image is brought up, the cap'n tosses aside Ann and runs into the Tunnel of Pyrotechnics.

Back on deck, Beal finds the situation hopeless and plans to bail on his crew, taking the boy and his first mate, Mr. Hampton (James Anderson), on a provisioned escape boat. During a brawl with Doug over the boy, the cap'n is shot by Hampton, following which TT transfers Doug and the prince through space only back onto the island; and then manages to transfer just the injured boy to Decatur's ship, right onto a bed no less! Doug is picked up from the beach, also badly injured. Berkhart grabs his bag and argues for Kirk to send him back to help. Kirk relents, and after exchanging handshakes and a hug, the smiling doc walks into the fireworks.

The doc does a non-tumbling fade-in on the ship, where Tony recognizes him and he goes to work on Doug, and then the boy, both being brought around rapidly. When Decatur comes upon the doctor and comments on his assembled guests' clothes, they tell him that they're time travelers, which he takes into consideration. The doc tells the guys of his plan to stay behind and live out his remaining years putting his skills to use ♫ in the Navy ♫, and the guys are transferred out.

IMDb claims that Robert Duvall played an uncredited role in this one, but I didn't catch him, or a character with the name he's listed under. And you'd think somebody that noteworthy would be in the photos section:



I don't think so. Was it in a movie soundtrack or something? My nostalgic twinge sort of blurs from the 60s into the early-to-mid 70s. I think it was one of those songs that WRKO used to play late at night.
I was referring to when it would've come up here as 50th anniversary business.

In one of the movies? I wouldn't remember or be aware.
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It's interesting how they spread out the various levels of faith. It makes sense that Kirk would be the traditionalist, but it's cool that they made Ann the real scientist and Swain the waffler. Given that it was the mid 60s, I would expect the opposite.
It was interesting for the time that they leaned so hard into her non-belief.

Heinlein's World-As-Myth concept.
25 words or less?
 
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prisoner, Billy (Robert Walker [Jr.]
Charlie the Kid.

♫ shoot the deputy ♫.
That clears that up.

Their clothing draws attention for a change, as Billy teases them about it.
That's good. If time travel worked the same magic on their clothes as it does their language skills, we'd have no choice but to accept Al the Bartender as our lord and savior.

Billy gives Tony a "sporting chance" to make a break for it and get shot
"We already did 'The Most Dangerous Game' a couple of episodes ago."

Doug grabs another outlaw's gun and...shoots Billy!!! :wtf:
Holy crap! This is 1960s TV, Doug! :eek:

What the hell were the people making this show on and do they still make it?
I think this is what those infinite monkeys do for kicks on the weekend.

The outlaws and observing TT gang assume that Billy's dead, but he turns out to have been shot in the belt buckle
If his pants had fit, he'd be dead. Well, he'd be dead now, anyway, but y'know.

researching Bonney's contradictory history
Probably caused by Doug and Tony. :rommie:

This week's ominous clue is that Billy's list of killings include two unidentified strangers in Lincoln, April 1881.
And nothing resembling that happens. Does this mean that Doug and Tony created an alternate timeline where they were killed by Billy the Kid, but then the Tic Toc gang creates a second alternate timeline where they lived?

Doug is actually relieved that he didn't change history
He just tried to save the Aztec Empire in the very last episode! :rommie:

then babbles about how Billy will die 50 years before Doug is born
When you think about it, this must be really taking a toll on their mental health. :rommie:

Billy prepares to shoot the two strange dudes.
"But first, hand over those ace duds."

TT has regained their fix, but is having trouble maintaining power, needing to recharge their equipment--What, are they running that vast complex with a car battery?
They always pull these random complications out of a hat and they never come up again. :rommie:

But they manage to pull a long-awaited old trick back out.
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Kirk: BILLY THE KID! WE'VE GOT YOU SURROUNDED! COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!
That's pretty cool. :rommie:

because he's wearing Billy's distinctive hat and notched pistol, the townsfolk assume that he's Billy.
Plus his handsome boyish face.

Deputies John Poe (John Crawford)
Presumably not the same as Johnny Crawford.

and lock him up, promising that he'll stand trial for the murder of Deputy Hayes
"But I didn't shoot the deputy!"

The deputies are unconcerned with verifying that their prisoner is really Billy
"What forensics? You're wearing the hat."

But he fails to convince the mob outside, who won't leave without their necktie party
"Just choose someone amongst yourselves."

Garrett sends Poe out to find a nearby cattle drive and arrange a stampede through town to disperse the mob.
Okay, there's a plan. :rommie:

(Wherever they repurposed the stampede footage from, there was very visible barbed wire herding the cattle.)
That's hilarious. I wonder if it would have been visible on a 1960s TV.

The TT crew are counting the minutes until they have the power to transfer the guys, but monitoring the situation, figure they may not have those minutes.
Ever notice how the green bar gets slower and slower the closer it gets to a hundred?

Doug draws on Billy and misses...
That can't be!

but Pat doesn't, shooting the gun out of Billy's hand
This seems to have happened a lot in the Old West.

Doug is taking in his near-death experience
"I never wrote a paper on pistol dueling. I don't deserve to live!"

"Pirates of Deadman's Island"
This may be the best title they've ever used.

The two American (sounds like he's saying "arrogant") scientists tumble helplessly onto the deck of a pirate ship in the middle of a battle.
Which actually could be construed as very lucky.

Tony: I have some relatives in Philadelphia. Only trouble is they haven't been born yet.

The cap'n orders them shot instead.
:rommie:

Tony and Doug ask him to put up a ransom IOU for them, and he persuades the cap'n to let him take them on as his servants during his captivity.
A very agreeable kid.

Gen. Kirk's been burning the midnight oil at a desk in the control center (finally another indication that the crew isn't always on duty)
Maybe they pause Doug and Tony at 5pm and turn them on the next morning at 9am, except weekends and holidays.

so Ann arranges a house call from Dr. Ben Berkhart
Because she's worried about Kirk overextending himself? Why is Kirk even burning the midnight oil? Does he have any scientific or technological expertise to contribute?

The guys try to take on Mali two-to-one in a comical fight that involves Tony riding on the brute's shoulders while delivering multiple ineffective TV Fu chops.
"Biff!" "Pow!" "Chop!"

The guys and their Royal Boy Wonder stage another failed escape attempt
What's up with that? Usually these guys can pretty much walk through walls. :rommie:

At this point I was expecting a William Dozier next-episode announcement.
They seem to be heading in that direction. Maybe when the boys finally make it back to the present they'll tumble into a fight between the Dynamic Duo and the Joker Gang. :rommie:

As the guys' trousers are getting soaked, the bombardment begins.
"Compliments of Thomas Jefferson, suckers!"

The group of pirates watching the little prince are stunned by an explosion that cannonballs don't make
Photon cannonballs. More anachronistic technology!

and he gets away long enough to free his servants.
He really is a good kid. :rommie:

the pirates catch up, head-grazing Tony with gunfire
Drink!

Doug is TV Fu chopped by a 16th-century pirate
See? More time travelers. :rommie:

Doc Berkhart takes in some TunnelVision and, having been mulling over what he'd do in his retirement, wonders aloud how many of the combatants he might be able to save.
None, doc. They've all been dead for 150 years.

TT tries to pull Doug and the prince off the ship...and get Cap'n Beal instead [tosses one back]!
:D

While Kirk tries to reason with him, Beal holds off a group of MPs with a flintlock and saber and takes Ann as a hostage.
Whoa!

He drags her to the Forbidden Planet shaft
Cool.

and, suspecting witchcraft, threatens to throw her over the bridge. Kirk catches up and offers to return the cap'n to his treasure-laden ship. Beal goes along with a knife to Ann's throat, while Swain struggles to regain his fix on the ship to save her. When its image is brought up, the cap'n tosses aside Ann and runs into the Tunnel of Pyrotechnics.
That was exciting.

TT transfers Doug and the prince through space only back onto the island
There's a trick that would come in handy if they used it more often. :rommie:

Berkhart grabs his bag and argues for Kirk to send him back to help. Kirk relents, and after exchanging handshakes and a hug, the smiling doc walks into the fireworks.
"Rather than spend my remaining days on the golf course, I shall travel into a violent past where I probably won't even make it back to shore alive."

The doc does a non-tumbling fade-in on the ship
Definitely age related. :rommie:

When Decatur comes upon the doctor and comments on his assembled guests' clothes, they tell him that they're time travelers, which he takes into consideration.
"Seen weirder things on the high seas."

The doc tells the guys of his plan to stay behind and live out his remaining years putting his skills to use ♫ in the Navy ♫, and the guys are transferred out.
Well, that doctor storyline was very weird and abrupt. Too bad they couldn't have established the character in a couple of episodes.

IMDb claims that Robert Duvall played an uncredited role in this one, but I didn't catch him, or a character with the name he's listed under. And you'd think somebody that noteworthy would be in the photos section:
Maybe they got the wrong episode. Or his character tumbled onto the cutting room floor.

I was referring to when it would've come up here as 50th anniversary business.
Oh, right. I wonder what I said about it. :rommie:

It was interesting for the time that they leaned so hard into her non-belief.
Yeah, and she never "came around." That was pretty cool.

25 words or less?
Okay. :rommie: "Concept is if idea strong enough, it creates parallel universe. Example: Oz. With so many books and so many readers, is actually real place somewhere."
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50 Years Ago This Week


September 7
  • Number One Observatory Circle was dedicated as the official residence of the Vice-President of the United States. Previously, American vice-presidents either already had homes near Washington, D.C., or rented temporary lodging. The first residents were Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller and his wife Happy Rockefeller.

September 8
  • On a cover captioned "I Am a Homosexual," U.S. Air Force Technical Sergeant Leonard Matlovich became the first openly gay cover subject of Time magazine after being discharged from the service for admitting his sexual orientation....Matlovich, a Vietnam War veteran with a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart, would eventually settle his lawsuit against the U.S. Air Force for $160,000 and continue his work as a spokesman for gay rights. He would die from complications of AIDS in 1988.
  • For the first time since 1961, the United States authorized merchant ships from Cuba to enter American ports for refueling, as well as to no longer raise objections if other nations permitted port access to Cuban vessels.
  • Officials in the intelligence agencies of Israel (the Mossad) and West Germany (the Bundesnachrichtendienst or BND) met secretly to discuss a joint effort to conduct a new type of electronic eavesdropping by Mossad on foreign offices in Germany.

September 9
  • Welcome Back, Kotter premiered on the ABC television network in the U.S. Starring Gabe Kaplan, the comedy introduced actor John Travolta, who played the role of student "Vinnie Barbarino".
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[Welcome back, that John Sebastian!]​
  • Wings' world tour opened with a concert at the Gaumont Cinema, Southampton.
  • Died: John McGiver, 61, American TV character actor

September 10
  • Former U.S. Army Lieutenant William Calley was released from house arrest after serving a little more than four years for a court martial conviction for the My Lai Massacre deaths of 109 South Vietnamese civilians Originally sentenced to life imprisonment in 1971, Calley was transferred to home incarceration three months later, and gradually had his term reduced to 20 and then 10 years.
  • Viking 2, which had originally been slated to be sent for a July landing on Mars until problems forced it to be replaced by a backup, was launched as the second vehicle to the "red planet". After descending from Mars orbit, Viking 2 lander would land at the Utopia Planitia on Mars on September 3, 1976, and transmit data until April 12, 1980.

September 11
  • Serial killer Joseph James DeAngelo, at the time an officer with the Exeter, California police department, killed the first of 13 victims, shooting college professor Claude Snelling during a home invasion. Over the next 11 years, he would terrorize southern California, committing rapes and murders, and become known in the media as "The Night Stalker" before ceasing his criminal activity, and turning to calling and taunting his surviving victims. In 2018, DeAngelo would be arrested based on DNA evidence and sentenced to life in prison.
  • Six days after escaping an assassination attempt, U.S. President Ford began wearing a bulletproof vest beneath his shirt and suit. The bulk from the vest was noticeable as the President arrived in Keene, New Hampshire for a political fundraiser.

September 12
  • The case of In re Quinlan, which would lead to a landmark decision in permitting the "right to die" for persons kept alive by artificial means, was filed by the father of Karen Ann Quinlan in the Superior Court in Morris County, New Jersey.
  • Wish You Were Here, the new album by Pink Floyd, was released in the United Kingdom, and would go on sale in the United States the next day [charts Sept. 27; #1 US the weeks of Oct. 4 and 11, 1975; #1 UK; #209 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2003)].
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(#316 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004])​

September 13
  • Aloha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii, hosted its first event, with Texas A&I University beating the University of Hawaii Warriors, 43 to 9. The stadium had a unique design that allowed it to be reconfigured for ideal seating for various purposes. Four of its 7,000 seat sections could be moved on an air cushion to accommodate a baseball diamond, a football field or a concert venue.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Rhinestone Cowboy," Glen Campbell
2. "Fallin' in Love," Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds
3. "At Seventeen," Janis Ian
4. "Get Down Tonight," KC & The Sunshine Band
5. "Fame," David Bowie
6. "Fight the Power, Pt. 1," The Isley Brothers
7. "Could It Be Magic," Barry Manilow
8. "I'm Sorry," John Denver
9. "Run Joey Run," David Geddes
10. "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights," Freddy Fender
11. "Feel Like Makin' Love," Bad Company
12. "Ballroom Blitz," Sweet
13. "That's the Way of the World," Earth, Wind & Fire
14. "Third Rate Romance," Amazing Rhythm Aces
15. "Jive Talkin'," Bee Gees
16. "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)," James Taylor
17. "Ain't No Way to Treat a Lady," Helen Reddy
18. "Solitaire," Carpenters
19. "Dance with Me," Orleans
20. "(I Believe) There's Nothing Stronger Than Our Love," Paul Anka w/ Odia Coates

22. "Feelings," Morris Albert
23. "Daisy Jane," America

25. "Games People Play," The Spinners
26. "How Long (Betcha' Got a Chick on the Side)," The Pointer Sisters
27. "It Only Takes a Minute," Tavares
28. "Rocky," Austin Roberts
29. "One of These Nights," Eagles
30. "Gone at Last," Paul Simon / Phoebe Snow & The Jessy Dixon Singers
31. "Mr. Jaws," Dickie Goodman
32. "Brazil," The Ritchie Family
33. "Someone Saved My Life Tonight," Elton John
34. "Miracles," Jefferson Starship
35. "Lady Blue," Leon Russell

37. "Main Title (Theme from 'Jaws')," John Williams
38. "Do It Any Way You Wanna," Peoples Choice

41. "Holdin' On to Yesterday," Ambrosia
42. "Tush," ZZ Top
43. "What a Diff'rence a Day Makes," Esther Phillips

45. "I Only Have Eyes for You," Art Garfunkel

51. "Katmandu," Bob Seger

54. "Who Loves You," The Four Seasons
55. "Love Will Keep Us Together," Captain & Tenille
56. "Help Me Rhonda," Johnny Rivers

59. "Please Mr. Please," Olivia Newton-John

61. "Rockin' All Over the World," John Fogerty
62. "This Will Be (An Everlasting Love)," Natalie Cole

65. "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain," Willie Nelson
66. "Bad Blood," Neil Sedaka
67. "Sky High," Jigsaw

74. "Sweet Maxine," The Doobie Brothers

79. "Lyin' Eyes," Eagles

81. "Eighteen with a Bullet," Pete Wingfield

83. "I Want'a Do Something Freaky to You," Leon Haywood

85. "Why Can't We Be Friends?," War

89. "SOS," ABBA

Leaving the chart:
  • "I'm Not in Love," 10cc (17 weeks)
  • "Out of Time," The Rolling Stones (3 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"Rockin' All Over the World," John Fogerty
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(Sept. 6; #27 US)

"Lyin' Eyes," Eagles
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(#2 US; #3 AC; #8 Country; #23 UK; 1976 Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Performance by a Duo, Group or Chorus)

"Bad Blood," Neil Sedaka
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(#1 US the weeks of Oct. 11 through 25, 1975; #25 AC; featuring uncredited backing vocals by Elton John)


And new on the boob tube:
  • All in the Family, "The Very Moving Day" (Season 6 premiere)
  • M*A*S*H, "Welcome to Korea" (one-hour Season 4 premiere)
  • Hawaii Five-O, "Murder: Eyes Only" (two-hour Season 8 premiere)
  • Shazam!, "Debbie"
  • Emergency!, "The Stewardess" (Season 5 premiere)
  • The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "Edie Gets Married" (Season 6 premiere)
  • The Bob Newhart Show, "The Longest Good-bye" (Season 4 premiere)



Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.



Charlie the Kid.
...with a really bad cold.

Holy crap! This is 1960s TV, Doug! :eek:
Shootings were still pretty common on Westerns.

I think this is what those infinite monkeys do for kicks on the weekend.
Hitchhikered.

And nothing resembling that happens. Does this mean that Doug and Tony created an alternate timeline where they were killed by Billy the Kid, but then the Tic Toc gang creates a second alternate timeline where they lived?
Or it's just an inaccurate historical account, or an account of an unrelated incident. It's also possible that Tony and Doug were believed to have been killed by the Kid after they disappeared.

They always pull these random complications out of a hat and they never come up again. :rommie:
No doubt part of their random plot generator.

That's pretty cool. :rommie:
I took a bit of liberty...the shot of him with the mic is from just before the announcement, which was heard in the past.

Presumably not the same as Johnny Crawford.
No, the Federation commissioner.
He's come up in other stuff in these parts, though I couldn't say what offhand.

"What forensics? You're wearing the hat."
They wouldn't have had forensics to speak of in that era, but Tony was trying to argue for producing witnesses who could testify to whether or not he was Billy.

"Just choose someone amongst yourselves."
If only it were that simple....

That's hilarious. I wonder if it would have been visible on a 1960s TV.
Very...it was right up in the foreground.

Ever notice how the green bar gets slower and slower the closer it gets to a hundred?
TT's version of a progress bar:
Makes the rolling cylinder clock on the Enterprise look appropriately futuristic.

Which actually could be construed as very lucky.
What, as opposed to in the water?

Maybe they pause Doug and Tony at 5pm and turn them on the next morning at 9am, except weekends and holidays.
That would be funny, but they generally treat the freezing option as a bigger deal, so there may be risks involved.

Because she's worried about Kirk overextending himself? Why is Kirk even burning the midnight oil? Does he have any scientific or technological expertise to contribute?
He was trying to work out where/when the guys were without a fix. He operated the controls before, so he must have some qualifications in what TT does.

What's up with that? Usually these guys can pretty much walk through walls. :rommie:
They're also experts at getting caught.

They seem to be heading in that direction. Maybe when the boys finally make it back to the present they'll tumble into a fight between the Dynamic Duo and the Joker Gang. :rommie:
"1966? Close enough, let's just lay low for a couple of years. I hear this city is full of abandoned subbasements with slanted floors."

"Compliments of Thomas Jefferson, suckers!"
This was during the First Barbary War, which was referenced.

There's a trick that would come in handy if they used it more often. :rommie:
They made a point of setting it up with a little exposition to the doc in this case.

Definitely age related. :rommie:
O'Connor at least floated down feet-first. Everyone but Tony and Doug just seems to effortlessly blink or fade in at this point.

Well, that doctor storyline was very weird and abrupt. Too bad they couldn't have established the character in a couple of episodes.
And it pretty much mirrored O'Connor's storyline.

Maybe they got the wrong episode. Or his character tumbled onto the cutting room floor.
Actually, it turns out that he's the main guest in the next episode. IMDb's uncredited listing is no doubt for the next-episode preview, which they don't show in syndication. I'm glad I didn't go crazy trying to find him! :lol:

Oh, right. I wonder what I said about it. :rommie:
A strange classic. :rommie:
It actually came up in May of '69/'19. I was the size of an apple.

Yeah, and she never "came around." That was pretty cool.
And the story did artfully maintain plausible deniability for the skeptics. While it all seemed a bit much to be coincidence, there was no point where we heard the voice of God or whatnot. (Though a biblical story would be a good opportunity to have Kirk play the voice of God....)

Okay. :rommie: "Concept is if idea strong enough, it creates parallel universe. Example: Oz. With so many books and so many readers, is actually real place somewhere."
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So you think they're side-stepping into alternate universes? Not really necessary when their starting universe is one with a time machine in 1968.
 
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