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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Unusual for Best of edits, we proceed straight into the Supremes plugging their spanking new, not-yet-charting single, the thematically compatible "I'm Livin' in Shame," which deals with how the narrator has regretfully come to disown her mother as a reminder of her lower-class origins:
This is a heartbreaking song. Much better than "Love Child," actually, though not as popular.

After the commercial break, Ed requests an audience bow from Jack Lord
And he said, "No! They shall bow to ME!"

Then it's on to another comedy routine by Burns & Schreiber. Schreiber pretends to be a coin-operated "Vendor Buddy" on a subway platform, who wants more dimes to keep his canned half of a casual conversation going. "How about that trouble in Vietnam?"
I remember that one. Something tells me they also did it on Smothers Brothers, but I could be mixing up memories.

and a medley of Latin songs".
Hopefully including "The Roman Was A Rogue."

the Supremes also did "I Get a Kick Out of You" (with flourishes of "I've Got You Under My Skin" included).
Very nice, although the wibbly wobbly video quality made me dizzy.

No tape! No briefing! Definitely no stinkin' portfolio!
Whoa, serious business this week.

This is followed by a rare scene of the team with their pants figuratively down, Jim clearly distraught over the turn of events.
Very serious business.

But it was all undermined by the ludicrous implausibility of the IMF improvising such a complex scheme while already in a foreign country.
Post-credits scene: Phelps dials his phone and says, "Thank you again. We couldn't have done it without you." Cut to Ricardo Montalban in a white suit. "You are quite welcome. Quite welcome indeed."

It was pretty bold of the show to go there with one of the regulars, but I have to wonder if they'd ever put a male agent in the same sort of compromising position.
Actually, I'm surprised they did a torture story about a woman in those days.

This show is getting very tiresome for me, I'm afraid.
:eek:

The episode begins with the trio off-duty in Vegas, where Linc's friend Tommy is killed by TV physics, his car going up in a pillar of flame as soon as it tips over.
Ralph Nader was never born in the TV-verse.

It turns out the cars are being used to smuggle drugs in from Mexico.
Stop that with a wall, Donnie-baby.

The trio do their customary end-of-episode walk-off on the Vegas Strip.
Sounds like a season premiere or something.

Your memory must be failing you, Old Timer...his career came up in The Other Thread when he was a three-time guest on The Incredible Hulk. :p
Oh, no doubt about the failing memory. Well, it's all in there, it's just that retrieval has become a problem. :rommie:

That is, however, their second and last Hot 100 single, and thus the last we'll be hearing from them.
At least I remembered them.

At least you noticed they were there. That's progress.
They're the band that needs no introduction-- or comment. :D

Ah...if you had H&I, I'd suggest it would be a good opportunity to check out Black Sheep. A good amount of Conrad running around shirtless, sometimes just in his boxers. And generally just playing a pretty enjoyable character.
I was thinking about trying to track that down for her birthday present, but I don't know if she'd go for a war show.
 
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50th Anniversary Viewing
(Part 2)

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Ironside
"Up, Down, and Even"
Originally aired January 9, 1969
Wiki said:
Eve tries to help her niece who's been arrested on a second narcotics [charge], bringing teenage mores and the generation gap into the fold.

This week's top-billed guest is Alfred Ryder as Sgt. John Darga.

Yes, it's a Very Special Episode of Ironside. Kim (Susan O'Connell) was already on probation when she was busted based on the smell of marijuana coming from her car (which seems like a flimsy basis for a charge), though she tells her parents (Richard Anderson and Rachel Ames) that she was just smoking Turkish cigarettes. Her one shot at not getting sent to a girls' school is to tell the authorities where she got the drugs that they apparently didn't find.

This episode uses a couple of songs--music by William Goldenberg, lyrics by Richard McLelland, but the female vocalist isn't identified. The first, "The Melody Man," is a soft song that vaguely reminds me of "Windmills of Your Mind". It plays a few times in the episode, including in the post-intro credits. The second, "Anywhere," has a funky, Aretha-ish vibe, and plays over a scene of Kim being taken on a visit to the girls' school, which is basically a prison.
Ann said:
Stay outta here! Do anything you have to, but stay outta here! It's a real bummer!

Remaining unreptentant, Kim tells Aunt Eve not to knock marijuana if she hasn't tried it, and plays the "victimless crime" card, portraying herself as a victim of the law. Eve has twin beds for some reason...I can only assume that she's having an affair with Ricky Ricardo or Rob Petrie.

Meanwhile, keeping with the episode's theme, Ed does a substitute teaching gig out of the blue, just so he can find that one of the students is stoned in class. This leads to a Very Special Expository Discussion between the principal and Team Ironside.

Kim busts out of Eve's place overnight, and the following day happens to be the day of a planned drug inspection at the school that had gotten around through the grapevine. Drugs are found in her locker at school. Ironside tracks down a group of Kim's truant friends and lectures to them about how dealing drugs is a crime just like burglary.

Team Ironside finds Kim staying with a young man named Terry, who has a pad somewhere in the vicinity of some establishing shots of Haight-Ashbury and was a fellow arrestee at the party that was the source of Kim's probation. Mark finds bags of week in the bottom of a cereal box. Terry faces a contributing to the delinquency charge, but says that Kim was the one who turned him on. In the end, she gets sent to the school.

I can appreciate what they were trying to do here, and it was all very timely...but I dunno, Very Special Team Ironside make Friday and Gannon look cool.

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Star Trek
"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
Originally aired January 10, 1969
Stardate 5730.2
H&I said:
The Enterprise finds itself host to two alien beings from the same planet, who share an intense and self-destructive hatred of each other.
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See my post here.

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Adam-12
"Log 36: Jimmy Eisley's Dealing Smack"
Originally aired January 11, 1969
Wiki said:
In between trying to find a suitable headlining performer for the department party, Malloy and Reed break up a narcotics ring when they raid the apartment of a dope pusher. Reed, chairman of the party's entertainment committee, finally finds his performer when he serves a subpoena on a country music entertainer who is a witness in a tax case.

While Reed's despondent over all of his entertainment options having been shot down by the other officers in the locker room, they come across Teejay on the backlot, who gives them the tip about Jimmy Eisley's drug deal. This time the details are vague enough that they're assigned to handle it, with the option of calling for backup if it pans out.

Back on patrol they spot a young woman with a child waiting at the same bus stop that they'd seen her at an hour previously. It turns out that they're from out of town, haven't had anything to eat, and the woman, Ellen Harris (Jenny Sullivan), confesses to having reluctantly stolen a box of cookies from a nearby market. Malloy makes a call and says that he's taking them to the Salvation Army. Ellen breaks into tears, thinking that she was going to jail, but Malloy promises to smooth things over with the store manager.

After dark, they drive stealthily into the alley behind the house where the deal is taking place (from which loud stock groovy music emanates) and inspect the garbage cans for evidence. They quietly apprehend one man coming out of the house and find out how many are inside, then call in for backup. Once it arrives, they take to the front door and start arresting and questioning. Eisley (William Mims) insists that nobody's been shooting up there. Despite ample evidence to the contrary, the officers are stumped as to the location of the stash itself...until Malloy finally discovers it hanging inside the bathtub drain.

The officers then proceed to deliver their subpoena to Randy Tait, a famous folk singer. We never see the fictional celebrity, but find out later in the locker room that Reed was successful in recruiting him, much to the delight of the other officers. Cozi chose to cut out the audio of part of the coda for a Quincy split-screen commercial, but there was some sort of denouement involving having to raise the price of the tickets.

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Get Smart
"The Day They Raided the Knights"
Originally aired January 11, 1969
Wiki said:
It's budget-cutting time at CONTROL and 99, who has less seniority, is temporarily laid off. Rather than be idle, she manages to find a job at a stamp redemption center (the late 1960s was the heyday of S & H Green Stamps). However, the redemption center is a KAOS munitions depot that CONTROL has been actively looking for. With most of the CONTROL agents away from town on a false lead, KAOS uses the opportunity to distribute its new weapon to its agents: a stereophonic gun (two guns mounted left-right on a common trigger base). Will 99 be able to alert CONTROL in time? The title is a parody of the movie The Night They Raided Minsky's.

Guesting Nancy Kovack as KAOS agent Sonja, who hires 99 at Knight's Stamp Redemption Center. At one point a black hippie comes in to redeem his stamps for a George Wallace poster and a set of darts.

The stereophonic pistol is a pretty silly threat that doesn't look terribly practical. For starters, it's about the width of four pistols...how could you wear it concealed?

After 99 is captured calling in, the Chief and Larabee go to the Redemption Center dressed as old women, but are also captured, so believe it or not, it's Max to the rescue. In the long shots of the fight/chase through the back storage room, Max's stunt double is really obvious--his hair looks nothing like Adams's. When one of the KAOS agents gets the drop on him and tries to shoot him with one of the guns, the twist is that the manufacturers took the order literally, and made twin-gun-shaped radios.

99's reflex of hitting Max when he sneaks up on her at home comes up again.

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Hogan's Heroes
"Who Stole My Copy of Mein Kampf?"
Originally aired January 11, 1969
Wiki said:
The team has second thoughts about following London’s orders when they learn their assassination target is a woman (Ruta Lee).

Hogan assumes that their target is a man because her name is Leslie, so they plan to kill him with an exploding electric razor. When the Colonel tries to deliver it in disguise and finds that he's a woman, baby, he backs out of the plan, because there are some things you just don't do even in espionage and war.

But because his orders were actually to "silence" her, and she's a propaganda broadcaster who's presenting Klink with an award for Stalag 13's record, Hogan's Plan B is to let her think that he's vocally pro-Hitler, such that she wants to bring him on her program as well. Once he's on the air, he's effusive in his backhanded praise for the Fuhrer, which results in Leslie being taken into custody by the Gestapo--You have to wonder if that's a more gentlemanly fate to condemn her to! Hitler's personal orders regarding Colonel Hogan: "If this man ever attempts to escape, let him!"

DIS-miiissed!

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Actually, I'm surprised they did a torture story about a woman in those days.
Well, it effectively involved scaring her into talking...and M:I's sister show was known for having its main female officer telling the captain how frightened she was.

At least I remembered them.
But do they sound like the '50s...?

They're the band that needs no introduction-- or comment. :D
But do they...no, I'm afraid to ask.
 
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she was busted based on the smell of marijuana coming from her car (which seems like a flimsy basis for a charge)
Zero tolerance!

Her one shot at not getting sent to a girls' school
If I had known that was the penalty for drugs, I would have smoked marijuana as a kid.

Eve has twin beds for some reason...I can only assume that she's having an affair with Ricky Ricardo or Rob Petrie.
That's hilarious. I just had a vision of Laura Petrie walking into her bedroom and finding Rob in his bed and Suzanne Pleshette in the other. :rommie:

I can appreciate what they were trying to do here, and it was all very timely...but I dunno, Very Special Team Ironside make Friday and Gannon look cool.
They should have had Mod Squad make the rounds with training sessions to beef up everybody's groovy factor.

While Reed's despondent over all of his entertainment options having been shot down by the other officers
:eek:

Ellen breaks into tears, thinking that she was going to jail, but Malloy promises to smooth things over with the store manager.
+1 tolerance.

After dark, they drive stealthily into the alley behind the house
"Engage cloaking device."

"The Day They Raided the Knights"
We had a ton of stuff from the S&H catalog. :rommie:

At one point a black hippie comes in to redeem his stamps for a George Wallace poster and a set of darts.
Nice. :rommie:

which results in Leslie being taken into custody by the Gestapo--You have to wonder if that's a more gentlemanly fate to condemn her to!
Sounds like a fate worse than death to me.

Well, it effectively involved scaring her into talking...and M:I's sister show was known for having its main female officer telling the captain how frightened she was.
True, but TV torture was never very explicit in those days, with rare exceptions. Can you imagine them involving Uhura in "The Empath?"

But do they sound like the '50s...?
Hmm. Not like Rock'n'Roll 50s. Their perky sound is kind of retro, though.

But do they...no, I'm afraid to ask.
No, they definitely don't. :rommie:
 
Zero tolerance!
Compare and contrast to this week's Adam-12...Reed and Malloy had plenty of circumstantial evidence that people were shooting up in the house, but they had to find the actual goods or the bust was a bust.

If I had known that was the penalty for drugs, I would have smoked marijuana as a kid.
:lol:

They should have had Mod Squad make the rounds with training sessions to beef up everybody's groovy factor.
I'd give props to Mark for conveying some street smarts, but that's his usual thing on the show.

Figuratively speaking.

"Engage cloaking device."
Coasting in with the headlights off.

True, but TV torture was never very explicit in those days, with rare exceptions. Can you imagine them involving Uhura in "The Empath?"
I can imagine Kirk and Spock in togas approaching Uhura and Chapel with a whip and branding iron, I'm afraid....

No, they definitely don't. :rommie:
Whew.
 
Get Smart
"The Day They Raided the Knights"
Originally aired January 11, 1969

In the long shots of the fight/chase through the back storage room

This series never received deserved credit for many well-staged fight scenes like the one in this episode--and this was produced in a decade where the bigger and better fight scenes (in some of TV and movie's greatest action/adventure films) were before the cameras with each new year.

Max's stunt double is really obvious--his hair looks nothing like Adams's.

You mean the double's hair does not match the toupee worn by Adams....

Star Trek
"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"
Originally aired January 10, 1969
Stardate 5730.2

Not uncommon for TOS, the episode has a very bleak resolution. Kirk's defeated, sort of helpless final words was a subtle way of saying that real world racial conflicts had no hope of a solution at all. Ballsy.
 
Compare and contrast to this week's Adam-12...Reed and Malloy had plenty of circumstantial evidence that people were shooting up in the house, but they had to find the actual goods or the bust was a bust.
Curse those rules and regulations!

I can imagine Kirk and Spock in togas approaching Uhura and Chapel with a whip and branding iron, I'm afraid....
True, but it stopped short of anything bad happening. They all got pretty beat up in "The Empath," McCoy nearly to death.

:D
 
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Dragnet 1967
"The Kidnapping"
Originally aired January 26, 1967
Wiki said:
Friday and Gannon must help an employee of a cosmetics business rescue her boss, who has been taken hostage to assist in a bank robbery.

Sgt. Joe Friday said:
This is the city: Los Angeles, California. A lot of people earn a living here, and there are a lotta ways to do it. Some of 'em have jobs that weren't even thought of five years ago [astronaut spacewalking]. Some of them are learning jobs guaranteed to be obsolete in another five [computer center]. A few work in the cleanest places on Earth [hospital]. And a few don't [boiler room, I think]. They all have one thing in common: it takes a day's work to get a day's pay. Not everybody buys the idea--there are a lotta ways around it. When somebody tries a shortcut with a gun, then it becomes my job. I carry a badge.

Thursday, December 15 (1966): Working the day watch out of Homocide, Friday and Gannon respond to a call from a bank, where a woman named Janet Ohrmund (Peggy Webber) tells of how her employer, a cosmetics queen named Adele Vincent, was kidnapped earlier that morning. Ohrmund was sent out to collect a ransom of $75,000 by noon, which doesn't give the detectives time to count the money themselves or get down all of the serial numbers. They also realize once they're staking out the residence that neither of them signed for the money.

As the suspect vehicle leaves the residence, they pull out and front-tail it. At this point they learn via radio that nobody was found in the house, and they only see one woman sitting in the front. (At the end of one scene, the car behind them in the rear projection pulls alongside and passes them...I'm not sure if that was part of the plan.) They proceed to arrange to block a freeway on-ramp with some other police vehicles...I'm not sure how they had the time to rendezvous with one of them at another location as shown. Pretending to have been a party in an accident, Friday approaches the car, converses with the driver while scoping out the situation, and rapidly pulls open the door, stepping on the driver's gun hand when he falls to the pavement. It turns out that Miss Vincent was the one in the front, while Miss Ohrmund had been put in the trunk.

Back at HQ, the bank manager is grateful to find all of the money accounted for, but Friday and Gannon face a talking-to from the Captain when they aren't able to produce the receipt for signing it out.

I was afraid for Miss Vincent or suspecting that it was all a scam when I saw that she wasn't in the cast list, but it turns out that she just didn't have a speaking role.

The Announcer said:
On March 10, trial was held in Department 183, Superior Court of the State of California, in and for the County of Los Angeles....The suspect was found guilty on two counts of kidnapping for the purpose of robbery.
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Interesting...that date would put the court decision in the future of when the episode aired!

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Kirk's defeated, sort of helpless final words was a subtle way of saying that real world racial conflicts had no hope of a solution at all.
I wouldn't interpret it that way at all. More as a cautionary "there but for the grace of God" thing. The show in general presented a future in which such conflicts evidently had been solved.
 
They also realize once they're staking out the residence that neither of them signed for the money.
Joe Friday made a mistake? That's like finding out there's no Santa Claus.

I wouldn't interpret it that way at all. More as a cautionary "there but for the grace of God" thing. The show in general presented a future in which such conflicts evidently had been solved.
I agree. Star Trek shows us how things are if we get it right, Cheron shows us how things are if we it wrong. Unfortunately, the current generation is going more in the direction of the Cheron way of things.
 
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50 Years Ago This Week

January 20 – Richard Nixon is sworn in as the 37th President of the United States.
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(Oath of Office @14:28+)
Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day said:
January 20 – Filming for the Get Back project switches from Twickenham to Apple's new basement recording studios at 3 Savile Row where it lasts until the end of the month.
Wiki said:
January 22 – An assassination attempt is carried out on Leonid Brezhnev by deserter Viktor Ilyin. One person is killed, several are injured. Brezhnev escaped unharmed.
The Beatles Day by Day said:
January 22 – George recruits his friend Billy Preston to play on the Beatles' sessions and in the film in order to ease the tense atmosphere among the four of them.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "I Heard It Through the Grapevine," Marvin Gaye
2. "Crimson and Clover," Tommy James & The Shondells
3. "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me," Diana Ross & The Supremes and the Temptations
4. "Soulful Strut," Young-Holt Unlimited
5. "Everyday People," Sly & The Family Stone
6. "Hooked on a Feeling," B.J. Thomas
7. "Touch Me," The Doors
8. "Worst That Could Happen," The Brooklyn Bridge
9. "I Started a Joke," Bee Gees
10. "Son of a Preacher Man," Dusty Springfield
11. "Going Up the Country," Canned Heat
12. "Can I Change My Mind," Tyrone Davis
13. "Wichita Lineman," Glen Campbell
14. "For Once In My Life," Stevie Wonder
15. "Hang 'Em High," Booker T. & The MG's
16. "If I Can Dream," Elvis Presley
17. "Cloud Nine," The Temptations
18. "Cinnamon," Derek
19. "Love Child," Diana Ross & The Supremes
20. "I Love How You Love Me," Bobby Vinton
21. "(There's Gonna Be a) Showdown," Archie Bell & The Drells
22. "Stand by Your Man," Tammy Wynette
23. "Too Weak to Fight," Clarence Carter
24. "Lo Mucho Que Te Quiero (The More I Love You)," Rene & Rene
25. "Hey Jude," Wilson Pickett
26. "Stormy," Classics IV feat. Dennis Yost
27. "Who's Making Love," Johnnie Taylor
28. "Build Me Up Buttercup," The Foundations
29. "California Soul," The 5th Dimension
30. "This Is My Country," The Impressions
31. "Baby, Baby Don't Cry," Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
32. "I've Gotta Be Me," Sammy Davis, Jr.
33. "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man," Bob Seger System
34. "You Showed Me," The Turtles

37. "This Magic Moment," Jay & The Americans

40. "Take Care of Your Homework," Johnnie Taylor
41. "Bella Linda," The Grass Roots
42. "Abraham, Martin and John," Dion

44. "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag," Otis Redding

46. "A Ray of Hope," The Rascals
47. "I'm Livin' in Shame," Diana Ross & The Supremes

52. "Games People Play," Joe South

56. "Things I'd Like to Say," New Colony Six

61. "Sweet Cream Ladies, Forward March," The Box Tops
62. "Proud Mary," Creedence Clearwater Revival
63. "Give It Up or Turnit a Loose," James Brown


66. "But You Know I Love You," The First Edition

69. "There'll Come a Time," Betty Everett

73. "I Got a Line on You," Spirit

85. "Indian Giver," 1910 Fruitgum Co.

96. "Mendocino," Sir Douglas Quintet

99. "Crossroads," Cream


Leaving the chart:
  • "Both Sides Now," Judy Collins (11 weeks)
  • "Crosstown Traffic," The Jimi Hendrix Experience (8 weeks)
  • "Hey Jude," The Beatles (19 weeks)
  • "Magic Carpet Ride," Steppenwolf (16 weeks)

New on the chart:

"Crossroads," Cream
(#28 US; #409 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)
See the 50th Anniversary Album Spotlight for Wheels of Fire upthread.

"Give It Up or Turnit a Loose," James Brown
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(#15 US; #1 R&B)

"I'm Livin' in Shame," Diana Ross & The Supremes
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(#10 US; #8 R&B)

"Indian Giver," 1910 Fruitgum Co.
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"Proud Mary," Creedence Clearwater Revival
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(#2 US; #8 UK; #155 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)


And new on the boob tube:
  • The Ed Sullivan Show, Season 21, episode 14, featuring Liza Minnelli, Gary Puckett & The Union Gap, Victor the Bear, John Davidson, and The Lennon Sisters
  • Mission: Impossible, "The Test Case"
  • The Avengers, "The Interrogators"
  • Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, Season 2, episode 16
  • The Mod Squad, "Flight Five Doesn't Answer"
  • Star Trek, "That Which Survives"
  • Hogan's Heroes, "My Favorite Prisoner"

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Joe Friday made a mistake? That's like finding out there's no Santa Claus.
It's a bit late, but you asked for it.
 
Cream! Classic! 'nuff said.

"Give It Up or Turnit a Loose," James Brown
I may or may not have heard this before. Hard to tell with James Brown. Like all James Brown, it's fun in the moment.

"I'm Livin' in Shame," Diana Ross & The Supremes
As heartbreaking as ever.

"Indian Giver," 1910 Fruitgum Co.
Kind of catchy, but not quite as memorable as whatever their other song was.

"Proud Mary," Creedence Clearwater Revival
CCR! Classic! 'nuff said.

Thank you. Sniff.
 
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55 Years Ago Spotlight

January 20 – Meet the Beatles!, the first Beatles album from Capitol Records in the United States, is released ten days after Chicago's Vee-Jay Records releases Introducing... The Beatles. The two record companies battle it out in court for months, eventually coming to a conclusion.
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Coming soon to an album spotlight near you!
Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day said:
January 24 – In the UK it is reported that articles about the Beatles have already appeared in the US magazines Time, Newsweek, New Yorker, The New York Times, and Vogue, and that further articles on the group are being prepared by The Saturday Evening Post, Life, Esquire, Seventeen and Saturday Review.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
2. "Louie Louie," The Kingsmen
3. "I Want to Hold Your Hand," The Beatles
4. "Surfin' Bird," The Trashmen
5. "Popsicles and Icicles," The Murmaids
6. "Out of Limits," The Marketts
7. "Hey Little Cobra," The Rip Chords

9. "Um, Um, Um, Um, Um, Um," Major Lance
10. "Drag City," Jan & Dean
11. "Whispering," Nino Tempo & April Stevens
12. "As Usual," Brenda Lee
13. "You Don't Own Me," Lesley Gore
14. "For You," Rick Nelson

16. "Anyone Who Had a Heart," Dionne Warwick
17. "The Nitty Gritty," Shirley Ellis
18. "Daisy Petal Pickin'," Jimmy Gilmer & The Fireballs
19. "Since I Fell for You," Lenny Welch
20. "That Lucky Old Sun," Ray Charles
21. "Somewhere," The Tymes
22. "Quicksand," Martha & The Vandellas
23. "Midnight Mary," Joey Powers
24. "When the Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes," The Supremes
25. "Talking About My Baby," The Impressions
26. "Baby, I Love You," The Ronettes
27. "Hooka Tooka," Chubby Checker

31. "You Don't Have to Be a Baby to Cry," The Caravelles
32. "Can I Get a Witness," Marvin Gaye
33. "What Kind of Fool (Do You Think I Am)," The Tams

36. "Java," Al (He's the King) Hirt

38. "What's Easy for Two Is So Hard for One," Mary Wells

41. "Drip Drop," Dion

43. "Pretty Paper," Roy Orbison

47. "Loddy Lo," Chubby Checker

61. "Southtown, U.S.A.," The Dixiebelles w/ Cornbread & Jerry

65. "See the Funny Little Clown," Bobby Goldsboro

69. "She Loves You," The Beatles
70. "California Sun," The Rivieras

73. "Oh Baby Don't You Weep," James Brown & The Famous Flames

77. "I Only Want to Be with You," Dusty Springfield

90. "Navy Blue," Diane Renay

93. "(Ain't That) Good News," Sam Cooke


97. "Who Do You Love," The Sapphires


Leaving the chart:
  • "Be True to Your School," The Beach Boys (12 weeks)
  • "For Your Precious Love," Garnet Mimms & The Enchanters (9 weeks)
  • "Kansas City," Trini Lopez (10 weeks)

New on the chart:

"I Only Want to Be with You," Dusty Springfield
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(#12 US; #4 UK)

"(Ain't That) Good News," Sam Cooke
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(#11 US; #1 R&B)

"Navy Blue," Diane Renay
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(#6 US; #1 AC)

"California Sun," The Rivieras
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(#5 US)

"She Loves You," The Beatles
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(#1 US the weeks of Mar. 21 and 28, 1964; #64 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)

Total Beatles songs on the chart: 2

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Cream! Classic! 'nuff said.
Their final of three Top 40 hits in America.

I may or may not have heard this before. Hard to tell with James Brown. Like all James Brown, it's fun in the moment.
Yep.

As heartbreaking as ever.
Not least because, as with the decade itself, we're getting near the end for Diana Ross's tenure with the group. But she won't go before giving them one last chart-topper....

Kind of catchy, but not quite as memorable as whatever their other song was.
I see what you did there! Can't help being a little embarrassed for this one in light of changing times and sensitivities. Anyway, this is their last of three Top 30 hits (all in the Top 5), and so the last we'll be hearing from them.

CCR! Classic! 'nuff said.
Perhaps their signature song in a string of classic hits.

Thank you. Sniff.
'Smatter RJ? 'Smatter RJ!?!

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From The Incredible Hulk #113 (cover date Mar. 1969)...
What's wrong with this panel?
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Hint: You can tell that Stan wrote it.
 
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"I Only Want to Be with You," Dusty Springfield
This is a good one.

"(Ain't That) Good News," Sam Cooke
I'm not familiar with this one, but it's a nice, happy song.

"Navy Blue," Diane Renay
This is kind of obscure, I think, but I love it. It used to get some fair amount of airplay on an Oldies station that doesn't exist anymore. And, yep, it sounds like the 50s.

"California Sun," The Rivieras
A surfin' classic.

"She Loves You," The Beatles
These guys again?

Their final of three Top 40 hits in America.
Definitely too short a season for this band.

Perhaps their signature song in a string of classic hits.
Not my personal favorite of CCR (that would be "Bad Moon Rising"), but definitely their iconic number.

'Smatter RJ? 'Smatter RJ!?!
Just something in my eye. :wah:

From The Incredible Hulk #113 (cover date Mar. 1969)...
What's wrong with this panel?
Nothing. Stan was dropping a revelation that Bruce had dated Betty Brant prior to the events of Incredible Hulk #1, during the year he lived in New York. Stan would often pepper his scripts with these story seeds for other writers to follow up on, sometimes decades later.
 
Does anyone love the old Herbie movies? I haven't seen the new one with Lindsay Lohan, but I love the old movies.

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I wouldn't interpret it that way at all. More as a cautionary "there but for the grace of God" thing. The show in general presented a future in which such conflicts evidently had been solved.

In the milquetoast-y Next Generation maybe, but TOS was the series where racial/cultural conflicts were not uncommon, not only in this episode, but in "A Private Little War", "The Cloud Minders", "The Omega Glory" and "Patterns of Force". TOS was the harder, darker edged Trek long before some would claim that about DS9. Regarding Kirk's tone, considering he Kirk experienced a number of torn races/worlds, to me, his parting line in "...Battlefield" seems defeated, and try as he might, the problems will never be solved--or cannot.

"Give It Up or Turnit a Loose," James Brown
(#15 US; #1 R&B)

A memorable Brown track, but he has what I would describe as a return to greater form coming around the corner.

"I'm Livin' in Shame," Diana Ross & The Supremes
[#10 US; #8 R&B)

Kind of a blah track.

"Indian Giver," 1910 Fruitgum Co.

^ All expenses paid seat on that rocket to the sun.

"Proud Mary," Creedence Clearwater Revival
(#2 US; #8 UK; #155 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)

Sort of "perfected" the so-named country rock others had been building on in that decade. Always listenable.
 
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Mission: Impossible
"The Mind of Stefan Miklos"
Originally aired January 12, 1969
Wiki said:
A double agent within U.S. intelligence is being fed false information, but his suspicious handler (Edward Asner) asks for a security check. Miklos (Steve Ihnat), an enemy mastermind, is sent to investigate and the IMF must convince him that the information is true and the handler is the traitor.

The reel-to-reel tape in the office of a closed-down movie theater said:
This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim.

This one has no portfolio. In the briefing, they play up Miklos as a flawless individual (apparently his smoking doesn't qualify as a vice by the standards of the day, and it plays into the scheme), whose attributes include a photographic memory.

On the Trek front, this one also has Jason Evers as Walter Townsend, the agent who's being fed false info, and Vic Perrin as the vaguely billed "Owner" of an art gallery where Gas Inspector Jim reports a leak and calls in Gas Company Barney to get in a crawlspace and swap out some dead-dropped information that's hidden in a statue.

Meanwhile Rollin goes to a glassware shop and makes contact with the handler, Simpson (Asner), passing himself off as Miklos sans disguise. Fake Miklos reports that Simpson's cover has been blown, and has One-of-His-Agents Jim take Simpson to a safe place. Real Miklos then shows up and Rollin assumes the role of Fake Simpson, also sans disguise, made possible by Rollin's picture having been put in the dead-dropped intel.

Miklos searches Townsend's apartment and finds evidence of Fake Girlfriend Cin, then searches her fake place and finds some leads involving Stockbroker Barney. The IMF sends Simpson to make contact with Townsend and give him information that will lead to his new contact. Miklos traces some keys found in Cin's apartment to a pair of airport lockers where he finds passports and matching tickets to Rio for Townsend and Cin; he then catches the two of them going to their lockers at the same time, as that's where Real Simpson sent Townsend. Miklos is nearly convinced that Townsend is a traitor (such that Jim briefly frets behind the scenes that the plan might be blown), but Miklos picks up on a series of subtle clues planted by the IMF to take advantage of his photographic memory, which add up to it all being a set-up by Simpson.

Here the IMF once again makes their operatives being seen in more than one role part of the scheme, as Miklos checks some security footage at the gallery and recognizes several of the IMF people as participants in what he's now viewing as a scheme set up by American intelligence on Simpson's behalf to discredit Townsend. Miklos allows Fake Simpson to think he's been fooled and arranges to get Townsend out of the country, convinced that the false info fed to Townsend must be true. There's an interesting moment at the end in which Miklos, being listened in on by the IMF, compliments the brilliance of the American agent who planned the scheme (effectively Jim), and expresses regret that he'll be ruined (unknowingly actually talking about himself).

I found this one a wee bit confusing in places, there were so many pieces in play. In particular, I didn't get what the stockbroker part was about...perhaps just a means of conveying secret information for the enemy agents.

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Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
Season 2, episode 15
Originally aired January 13, 1969
The Wiki list of guest appearances said:
Peter Lawford, Johnny Carson, Perry Como, David Janssen, Van Johnson, Paul Winchell

Dick has a substitute this week:
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The News from the Future is now from 1989...and there's a mention of King Ronald Reagan.

The Fickle Finger of Fate goes to a candy company:
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Mod, Mod World looks at War and Peace:
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The Mod Squad
"Hello Mother, My Name Is Julie"
Originally aired January 14, 1969
Wiki said:
Julie's mother, a former prostitute, arrives in Los Angeles to introduce Julie to the man she plans to marry.

The episode opens with a Mod Mission in Progress, as Pete and Linc pull off a fake heist to get into a gang. Afterwards they drop by Julie's place to find that her mother (Nan Martin) is already visiting, and Julie clearly isn't happy about it. She doesn't look much like a former prostitute, but Pete more or less acknowledges that, saying that she doesn't look like he'd imagined she would. The early part of the episode mixes use of a flashback to the pilot with a new flashback of Julie's past.

The "Mr. Big" that Pete and Linc are trying to get in with, Fred Williams, turns out to be none other than William Windom! Julie works as a waitress to serve as a middle-woman contact between Greer and the Male Mods. Pete and Linc go to Julie's for dinner to lend support as she meets the man her mom intends to marry, Fred White, who turns out to be none other than...Willaim Windom! Ruh-roh! Pete, Linc, and Fred engage in some layered repartee about his line of work that goes over Julie and her mother's heads.

Later it's back to work digging a tunnel for Fred...maybe he actually works for the IMF! "Let's pick up the pace, Barney needs this tunnel yesterday!" Pete and Linc's mission, should they choose to accept it, is to get his fingerprints to Greer...but the guy has a habit of wearing gloves while working and being careful to wipe his prints off of items that he touches when they're not on. Because they don't want to let Julie in on Fred's true nature, they covertly dig through her garbage to find a champagne bottle that he'd opened. Alas, Greer calls in the results to Julie, Williams's alias of Fred White comes up, and Julie doesn't react well. Not long after, Greer finds out about White and Julie's mom...andhas Pete and Linc pulled over by a squad car to make contact with them.

The tunnel ends up intersecting with an existing city tunnel system, via which they break into a bank vault. But Fred's underling, Mace (Leonard Stone) pulls a gun on the other three, there's a struggle, Mace is killed, Fred overpowers Pete and Linc, and he runs off with the money. Soon afterward, Julie's mother sees Fred being arrested outside of Julie's apartment.

In the coda, Julie's mom has traded her planned honeymoon in Mexico for a bus trip to Somewhere Off the Show, and the Mod Trio do their customary walk-off outside the bus depot.

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This is a good one.
Dusty had a prior minor hit under her belt ("Silver Threads and Golden Needles" with the Springfields, 1962, #20 US, #16 Country)...and I'd like to think that "I Only Want to Be with You" would have been a hit regardless...but I have to wonder about the timing of this one, coming as it did just as the British Invasion was breaking onto the charts. At the very least, it may have enjoyed a bump from the circumstances.

This is kind of obscure, I think, but I love it. It used to get some fair amount of airplay on an Oldies station that doesn't exist anymore. And, yep, it sounds like the 50s.
For me it has that "early-to-mid-'90s, when oldies stations were still playing the early '60s" sound. And it's a fun, cute song.

A surfin' classic.
Hailing from South Bend, Indiana, the Rivieras are One-Hit Hometown Heroes! :techman:

These guys again?
Ah, don't worry about it...I'm sure they're just a passing fad.

Not my personal favorite of CCR (that would be "Bad Moon Rising"), but definitely their iconic number.
I'm partial to "Green River" myself.

Nothing. Stan was dropping a revelation that Bruce had dated Betty Brant prior to the events of Incredible Hulk #1, during the year he lived in New York. Stan would often pepper his scripts with these story seeds for other writers to follow up on, sometimes decades later.
I find the Hulk's concern for one of Spider-Man's supporting characters touching.

In the milquetoast-y Next Generation maybe, but TOS was the series where racial/cultural conflicts were not uncommon, not only in this episode, but in "A Private Little War", "The Cloud Minders", "The Omega Glory" and "Patterns of Force". TOS was the harder, darker edged Trek long before some would claim that about DS9. Regarding Kirk's tone, considering he Kirk experienced a number of torn races/worlds, to me, his parting line in "...Battlefield" seems defeated, and try as he might, the problems will never be solved--or cannot.
Telling stories about current issues by projecting them on alien races was always Trek's gig. But the people encountering these races were an optimistic future version of humanity for whom such issues were nowhere in evidence. Humanity clearly hadn't bombed itself into oblivion, and Uhura's skin color was only an issue when an alien assuming the role of Abe Lincoln was visiting.

^ All expenses paid seat on that rocket to the sun.
Too late--You already kicked me onto it and launched it, remember? So I guess you're stuck on Earth with the 1910 Fruitgum Co.--Enjoy! :p
 
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Does anyone love the old Herbie movies? I haven't seen the new one with Lindsay Lohan, but I love the old movies.
I have not seen a single Herbie movie, and I was surprised to see that the first one came out in 69. I would have guessed mid 70s.

(apparently his smoking doesn't qualify as a vice by the standards of the day, and it plays into the scheme)
It's become really weird to see people smoking in old shows like this. It's odd, because retro usually looks normal to me, but the smoking is very jarring.

I found this one a wee bit confusing in places
Ditto.
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Dick has a substitute this week:
That's hilarious. Johnny Carson is great. :rommie:

The News from the Future is now from 1989...and there's a mention of King Ronald Reagan.
They warned us. They warned us and we didn't listen.

She doesn't look much like a former prostitute, but Pete more or less acknowledges that, saying that she doesn't look like he'd imagined she would.
That sounds more like Police Squad! than Mod Squad. "Hello, Julie's Mom. You don't look at all like how Julie described you. I was picturing Ann Coulter."

Pete and Linc go to Julie's for dinner to lend support as she meets the man her mom intends to marry, Fred White, who turns out to be none other than...Willaim Windom!
It's like Aunt May and Doc Ock!

Not long after, Greer finds out about White and Julie's mom...andhas Pete and Linc pulled over by a squad car to make contact with them.
"I'm Officer Malloy, this is Officer Reed-- license and registration, please."

The tunnel ends up intersecting with an existing city tunnel system, via which they break into a bank vault.
Oh, man. :rommie:

Dusty had a prior minor hit under her belt ("Silver Threads and Golden Needles" with the Springfields, 1962, #20 US, #16 Country)...and I'd like to think that "I Only Want to Be with You" would have been a hit regardless...but I have to wonder about the timing of this one, coming as it did just as the British Invasion was breaking onto the charts. At the very least, it may have enjoyed a bump from the circumstances.
About ten years later, it was covered by another British band that was briefly compared to the original invaders.

For me it has that "early-to-mid-'90s, when oldies stations were still playing the early '60s" sound. And it's a fun, cute song.
Yeah, you can't find that era on the radio anymore. Our Classic Rock station is playing Nirvana now. :wtf:

Hailing from South Bend, Indiana, the Rivieras are One-Hit Hometown Heroes! :techman:
Nice. :mallory:

I'm partial to "Green River" myself.
So many to choose from....

I find the Hulk's concern for one of Spider-Man's supporting characters touching.
The Marvel characters were really one big family, held together by common bonds of radiation and mutation. Sure, they fought sometimes, but deep down they really loved each other.

Telling stories about current issues by projecting them on alien races was always Trek's gig. But the people encountering these races were an optimistic future version of humanity for whom such issues were nowhere in evidence. Humanity clearly hadn't bombed itself into oblivion, and Uhura's skin color was only an issue when an alien assuming the role of Abe Lincoln was visiting.
I always think of Kirk's appalled reaction in "Day of the Dove" when he realized what the alien force was doing. "Even... even race hatred." It was these kinds of things that made Sisko seem a little weird and petty sometimes on DS9.
 
The Mod Squad
"Hello Mother, My Name Is Julie"
Originally aired January 14, 1969

Another strong episode. You were not going to see the policewomen of the Jack Webb shows revealed to be prostitutes. That's the stark difference between shows of the Webb variety and The Mod Squad, which was breaking new ground.


The episode opens with a Mod Mission in Progress, as Pete and Linc pull off a fake heist to get into a gang. Afterwards they drop by Julie's place to find that her mother (Nan Martin) is already visiting, and Julie clearly isn't happy about it. She doesn't look much like a former prostitute....

Despite being an old hooker, take note of mother Barnes' initial reaction to Julie's friends; no matter what low station in life some find themselves (or place themselves), there's still the idea that they are somehow better than "others".

The "Mr. Big" that Pete and Linc are trying to get in with, Fred Williams, turns out to be none other than William Windom!

Always a reliable actor, and never gave the same performance twice.


Later it's back to work digging a tunnel for Fred...maybe he actually works for the IMF! "Let's pick up the pace, Barney needs this tunnel yesterday!" Pete and Linc's mission, should they choose to accept it, is to get his fingerprints to Greer...but the guy has a habit of wearing gloves while working and being careful to wipe his prints off of items that he touches when they're not on.

So, the Pete and Linc work for Kras the Klingon, trying to get the goods on Commodore Matt Decker....


Fred overpowers Pete and Linc,

What's up with shall we say...older Windom characters overpowering younger men in the prime of their lives? First Mr. Montgomery on the Enterprise, and now Pete and Linc! What IS he eating?


Telling stories about current issues by projecting them on alien races was always Trek's gig. But the people encountering these races were an optimistic future version of humanity for whom such issues were nowhere in evidence. Humanity clearly hadn't bombed itself into oblivion, and Uhura's skin color was only an issue when an alien assuming the role of Abe Lincoln was visiting.

Huh? TOS was a darker series with those conflicts present among its human characters: Stiles ("Balance of Terror") was clearly a racist. In "The Doomsday Machine," Matt Decker's reply ("No...I guess they don't") and facial expression to Spock's "Vulcans never bluff" line was clearly meant to paint Decker as harboring some racial animosity toward Spock and Vulcans in general, and Captain Tracey's instant use of Spock as a Satanic stand-in was more than trying to tip the scales in his favor--he had no love for Spock almost from the moment the landing party beamed down. On that note, racist humans were clearly meant to be a thing in the TOS era as the original screenplay for "The Omega Glory" had Tracey openly hostile to Spock because he's Vulcan. That racial tension survives in James Blish's adaptation of the episode in the novel Star Trek 10 (1974).

This darker portrait of humans in TOS was the reason The Next Generation was so criticized for Roddenberry finally pushing a future where humans were so flawless and internal-conflict-free, they were perfect...perfectly boring, which went a long way in shaping how the "anti-TNG" DS9 would be produced.


Too late--You already kicked me onto it and launched it, remember? So I guess you're stuck on Earth with the 1910 Fruitgum Co.--Enjoy! :p

I'm sure the Russians have some rockets they're not using. Anything so no one has to listen to the Big Hits of the 1910 Fruitgum Co., such as..."Goody Goody Gumdrops." It was painful just writing the title of that so-called song!
 
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Ironside
"Why the Tuesday Afternoon Bridge Club Met on Thursday"
Originally aired January 16, 1969
Wiki said:
A team of 70-year-old sleuths - led by Ironside's Aunt Victoria - closes in on a man suspected of murdering his wife.

Do all detective shows visit the "comic-relief amateur guest sleuths" trope?

The Chief gets the titular line out of the way right up front, albeit in the form of a question. He holds his aunt (Jessie Royce Landis) in high regard, and takes her suspicions, which are fueled by her detailed knowledge of her friend's peculiar habits, very seriously. Rosalyn McPhee's husband, Harvey, told the bridge club that she died, but when Ironside visits him, he claims that she left him and that the other story was just a fabrication at his wife's request. He's having an affair with his secretary, Val, who isn't in on what's really going on, such that he doesn't want her snooping around his basement.

"Sign o' even older times still being in living memory" exchange about Harvey's era-evoking den...
Val: Harvey says this is where he can shut out reality, and go back to those wonderful days of the turn of the century.
Victoria: I've been through those "wonderful days". The whole world smelled of horses.​

"Sign o' contrasting times" reference...
Victoria: We may be past wearing mini-skirts, but we do have full possession of our senses.​

Mark gets a good moment when Ironside sends him around the back of McPhee's house to check for an open door or window. We hear breaking glass, followed by Mark appearing at the front door. "The back window was busted." The timing was too quick, though.

Ironside pieces together that Harvey's activities match those of a 1910 murderer named Crippen, right down to having his mistress dress as a boy to leave the country. As with that case, they find Rosalyn's body behind the wall in the basement. It turns out that Harvey is schizo and completely immersed in the role of Crippen. In order to save Val, Ironside plays along and assumes the role of a Scotland Yard inspector from the original case to talk McPhee down.

This turned out to be an almost disturbingly awkward episode. It so played up the comical aspects and quirkiness of the situation, and Harvey was so obviously suspicious, that I expected there'd be a twist...that it would turn out that nobody had been killed and there'd be some off-the-wall explanation for it all. But no, after all the wacky hijinks and humorous musical cues, it turned out that the guy really did kill his wife and put her body in the wall.

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Star Trek
"The Mark of Gideon"
Originally aired January 17, 1969
Stardate 5423.4
H&I said:
Kirk beams down on a diplomatic mission and finds himself on an Enterprise where all the crew have vanished and only a mysterious woman resides.
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See my post here.

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Adam-12
"Log 62: Grand Theft Horse?"
Originally aired January 18, 1969
Wiki said:
A homesick Texan is the prime suspect in a horse rustling case, and a robber makes fake calls to distract the police.

Reed and Malloy are on patrol, looking for robbery suspect, when they become distracted by a noise the squad car is making while in motion. Then they get the call for "grand theft horse". Malloy dismisses the prospect that it's one of the robber's phony calls, because it's "too goofy". The call takes them to a ranch from which a horse was stolen by a "hippie type". When Reed and Malloy insist that they wouldn't be able to effectively pursue the suspect in a car, the owner tries to get them to go out on horses. Malloy opts to call in a pair of park rangers instead. Reed and Malloy end up intercepting the suspect on a road with the rangers in hot pursuit. His name is Leroy and he came out to California from Texas to "find himself," but found that after finding nothing but people pedaling drugs on him, he just had an urge to return home...on horseback. I don't recall if this has come up already, but Reed sits in the back with him, as they don't have a barrier between the front and back seats.

After that they get a call for a "415 (disturbance) woman at a motel". The young woman won't talk but is sitting behind the car of a Charles Carter (Peter Duryea) and won't move. He informs the officers that her name is Susan; that he'd met and dated her while he was in Virginia on a business trip; and that she came out to California uninvited to move in with him. They take her back to her rented room and call her mother for her. Once Susan's on the phone, they leave.

After dark, with the squad car still making its noise, they get a call for a prowler followed by one for a 211 in progress at a liquor store. They respond to the latter and are shot at by the fleeing suspect. A car chase ensues with the robber riding shotgun and continuing to fire at them. Reed returns fire, hitting the rear of the vehicle, which then fails to make a turn, runs into a tree, and catches fire. The suspects are pulled out of the vehicle unconscious. Speaking to Sgt. MacDonald afterward, Malloy notes that he suspected the prowler call was a phony because it was "see the man" rather than the usual "see the woman".

Driving away from the scene, Reed realizes that the noise has stopped.

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Get Smart
"Tequila Mockingbird"
Originally aired January 18, 1969
Wiki said:
The Tequila Mockingbird (a statue rather like the Maltese Falcon) has been recovered by Esmerelda, a CONTROL operative posing as a cantina showgirl in a sleepy Mexican town called Mira Loma. KAOS kills Esmerelda during her performance but she has hidden the statue beforehand. Max (undercover as a down-and-out doctor) and 99 (undercover as a Spanish singer, who performs "Cielito Lindo" as part of her act) have to figure out the clue that was left behind to find where the statue is hidden, leading to a mexican standoff between Max and two rival KAOS agents. The episode is spoof of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. The title is a play on Harper Lee's novel To Kill a Mockingbird.

The showgirl (Poupee Bocar)'s name is Esperanza in the credits, Esperanaza according to a poster shown in the episode. She sends Morse code messages to CONTROL through her castanets.

I did notice some of the Eastwood spaghetti Western touches, like the musical motifs, the way Max rode into town on a burro with a cigarello clenched between his teeth, and the shooting style of the showdown, in which Max is saved by the Chief disguised as a man in a sombrero taking a siesta.

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Hogan's Heroes
"Operation Hannibal"
Originally aired January 18, 1969
Wiki said:
Hogan will have to play by someone else’s rules when a general’s daughter offers him vital information, but only on her terms.

Hedy (Louise Troy) wants to protect her father, General von Behler (John Hoyt), so she insists the plans have to be photographed, not stolen. Hogan attends a party at von Behler's disguised as a German captain, where he has a couple of close calls with Klink. Meanwhile, Carter and LeBeau sneak into the General's study to photograph the plans, taking advantage of distractions provided by Hedy and Hogan.

At one point Newkirk intercepts a phone call from the General to Stalag 13, and Carter does a pretty spot-on impersonation of Klink.

War Show Chronology Note: Klink says that Hogan's been at Stalag 13 for two years.

DIS-miiissed!

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I have not seen a single Herbie movie, and I was surprised to see that the first one came out in 69. I would have guessed mid 70s.
I saw one of them--I think the original--at a theater as a little kid in the early '70s. I think it's the first movie that I have a distinct memory of having seen. I was so young that I had trouble following the plot and staying awake.

So I was successful in conveying my understanding of the episode.... :shifty:

That's hilarious. Johnny Carson is great. :rommie:
He does do a pretty damn good impression of Dick.

About ten years later, it was covered by another British band that was briefly compared to the original invaders.
I don't think Scots like to be referred to as British....

The Marvel characters were really one big family, held together by common bonds of radiation and mutation.
:lol:

You were not going to see the policewomen of the Jack Webb shows revealed to be prostitutes.
Julie's mom wasn't a policewoman.

Huh? TOS was a darker series with those conflicts present among its human characters: Stiles ("Balance of Terror") was clearly a racist. In "The Doomsday Machine," Matt Decker's reply ("No...I guess they don't") and facial expression to Spock's "Vulcans never bluff" line was clearly meant to paint Decker as harboring some racial animosity toward Spock and Vulcans in general, and Captain Tracey's instant use of Spock as a Satanic stand-in was more than trying to tip the scales in his favor--he had no love for Spock almost from the moment the landing party beamed down. On that note, racist humans were clearly meant to be a thing in the TOS era as the original screenplay for "The Omega Glory" had Tracey openly hostile to Spock because he's Vulcan.
All of these alleged examples of bigotry (some of dubious merit) were directed outward at a member of an alien species. They present no evidence of racial bigotry within 23rd-century humanity, which is what we were discussing.

"Goody Goody Gumdrops."
Fortunately for all of us, that one didn't crack the Top 30.
 
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Julie's mom wasn't a policewoman.

Never said she was. The point is that in Webb's Our-Women-Are-From-Ladies-Home-Journal world, you were not going to see that kind of life for or connected to a main female character.


All of these alleged examples of bigotry (some of dubious merit)

Hardly dubious. Stiles was a racist, the screenplay for "The Omega Glory" was adapted, so Tracey's behavior is published fact, and there's no doubt what Decker meant in responding to Spock--specifically about Spock's own racial reference with:

"No. No, I don't suppose that they do.."

Decker's meaning was not shrouded in mystery.

You were the one who said:

Trek's gig. But the people encountering these races were an optimistic future version of humanity for whom such issues were nowhere in evidence.

"Nowhere in evidence" is a patently false claim, and you argued that the TOS version of humanity had moved beyond those beliefs, only seeing it in analogues of human behavior on alien worlds. Clearly, 23rd century humans still deal with racism, and it matters not whether its from human to human, or directed at an alien. You cannot erase racist belief if its not directed at another human. That's not why those characters were written that way in order to make a statement / examination of human failings.

Moreover, racism extends to the TOS movies with The Undiscovered Country's Scotty writing off Klingons as not feeling as humans do--a racist assumption (mean to "dehumanize" the "other"--one of the points of the film). while Azetbur point-blank calls Chekov out on his "racist" (her words) use of the term (and belief) of "Inalienable human rights". And of course, Admiral Cartwright offered the following--

"...Klingons would become the alien trash of the galaxy."

That is one of the points of Star Trek--examination of human failings and not just on parallel worlds, but how humans use and project said failings toward anyone. That film's story takes place in-universe decades after the 5-year mission era of TOS, only hammering home the fact the TOS era's humans were never free of that worldview.
 
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