The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread
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Kris Kristofferson passed away today at the age of 88. I'll be watching 'Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid' tonight in his honor.
James has got some Khan chest going on there.
I had no idea. I never saw that show (and I haven't seen the movie in decades).
Even though he seems to have co-written almost every song.
Kind of a shame that he didn't meet with much success. I wonder how his career might have been different if he had been more upfront about his relationship to Paul.
You'd kinda think they would if he's underage.
Small claims court. Lotsa luck.
This all seems odd. Why would crooks spend money to bail out a kid? Why are they even working with a kid? Did the other guy get bailed out too? You'd think the older guy would be the one who is both more valuable and more of a threat in terms of making a deal with the cops. The kid would be expendable.
Okay, it's a two parter, so maybe this guy is Greg's real father or something.
This time they bring him home.
Jim was able to arrange that pretty quickly without Pete's knowledge. Maybe this will all make sense in part two.
Is this the one where he says, "Corporal, deform the men!"?
Kinda weird, but possibly correct in real time-- which could be what the writers were thinking about.
Did they give any information about this soldier? Was he some kind of intelligence operative? Flagg must have had some military or political reason to deliver him to South Korea for a documented execution. Or were they just portraying it as the senselessness of war?
So they substituted Klinger for a soldier destined for execution? And let the prisoner go, even though he's high profile enough to be wanted by the CIA? This is so unwise for so many reasons.
It's funny how these guys always have to consult their clippings. Like they don't have it all memorized.
He remembered to bring the silver dollar, but he still has to consult the clipping.
Okay, I get that he's a psycho, but what is he taunting McGarrett about? These are murders that McGarrett solved. Usually this type of character is blaming the cop for somebody's death. What's his beef with McGarrett?
Kind of silly to ask, since the guy won't be able to report to McGarrett.
Steve should have taunted him back about his lack of originality.
I'm okay with it.
"Just give me a minute while I read through these seventeen articles and find a good match."
I suppose we can assume that the original prostitute was killed at this same motel, but it's still kind of convenient that they show up at the right room just in the nick of time.
Unlikely and anticlimactic.
Yeah, I'm thinking probably not. You can search IMDB by character names and I don't see anything.
Indeed. It was not exactly the strongest plot ever. And what was the deal with him calling everybody "Mister?" Was that ever clarified?
I'm pretty positive she's been in the show before. I remember briefly confusing her with an actress from Eight Is Enough.
It seems like it would look like an attempted robbery. I don't think he'd have much trouble finding a lawyer.
In a serious role? Groovy.
Frequently seen character actor.
Hey, a smart criminal. That's unusual.
Geez, Chief, mind your own beeswax.
A fortune teller and a bookie-- there's a winning skill set.
Took kind of a long time to get there.
What's the rush, kids? You should live together for a while. See how it goes.
"Why, yes. I am."
This is shaping up to be a pretty straightforward self defense case.
Ouch, Ed. The guy just asked the Chief to be his best man.
Probably should have recorded that conversation.
These bookies are all pretty cooperative.
I guess they were trying to give Mark the spotlight, but the episode didn't really show him to have any special defense or detective skills, since everybody else did all the work. Not exactly a backdoor pilot for the Mark & Diana Mystery Hour.
That's more like it, Ed.
Nah, it's completely different. Russia has a long history of despotism, and America has a long history of orneriness.
Yeah, it's still blocked. It seems that all the recordings are blocked, but live versions are still available.
I don't either, actually. I mainly just remember that it exists.
Oh, okay. I thought you might have grabbed the wrong link.
I do like that one, but my other favorite is "Desiree."
Yeah, I saw that yesterday. Kind of boggles the mind. RIP, Kris Kristofferson.
Khan don't take no mess!
He was small and could get into places that they couldn't. There was a whole episode of Mod Squad about the team befriending such a kid.
Nah, the real father is dead...the father thing is just a story.
Nope. But a private shot the bugle out of Radar's hand with a cannon salute.Is this the one where he says, "Corporal, deform the men!"?
No info that I recall...Flagg would have treated it as need to know, anyway.
Par for the course on The Alan Alda Show.So they substituted Klinger for a soldier destined for execution? And let the prisoner go, even though he's high profile enough to be wanted by the CIA? This is so unwise for so many reasons.
"Now where am I supposed to stick this again...?"He remembered to bring the silver dollar, but he still has to consult the clipping.
I covered that in brief...McGarrett's an authority figure, the best at what he does. Eddie's driven by his esteem issues to prove that he's better.
That would risk making him ditch his M.O., which they had a handle on.
He just used the one that was open in front of him, which is where he got tripped up.
I figured it must have been something like that.
How do you do that? I'm not finding an option; or getting character results with general searches for some character names.
That signified the authority figures that he resented, including his boss and McGarrett.
She apparently appeared as another character in the "Amy Prentiss" pilot movie.
It was done in a positive way, reminding the audience of how far the character had come.
They needed to know who he worked for.
Yeah, that stretched my suspension...normally such characters would be all tight-lipped and uncooperative.
He did pretty well for having been recruited on the fly without an office or firm.
The wrong person channeling that orneriness in the wrong direction gets us January 6.
That hasn't come up yet chronologically, so it only would have come up if you'd volunteered it previously.
HUH!
Hey, Happy 100th Birthday to James Earl Carter, best ex-president the US ever had. 
Okay, that's true. It's still weird that they risked bailing him out, though.
The mother's husband is dead. That doesn't mean there won't be shocking revelations in part two. Both the bailout thing and something about the mom's behavior makes me suspicious.
Still a bit over the top.
The audience needed to know.
At least Klinger wasn't executed, so we can be thankful for that.
"Is the eagle supposed to be facing east or west...?"
Right. It could have been stronger, though, I think.
That's a good point. Although that could have ramped up the excitement level.
Oh, sorry, I actually just use Google for IMDB searches, by appending "imdb" to whatever I'm searching for. The IMDB search engine is not great, especially in the app. For example, if I search for "sheila young hawaii five oh imdb, I get this character page. There's not much on it, but it exists.
Hmm, okay.
Aha, thought so. I wonder if she'll be back now that they're married.
Oh, I see.
I think the writers kind of let him down. He was almost a bystander in his own adventure. They should have really ramped it up and given him something life threatening to wring some drama out of his engagement.
That wasn't American orneriness, that was anti-American sissiness.
Which I probably wouldn't have had reason to do.
Apparently it was just announced today that John Amos died in August.
I thought it was odd how they stuffed the engagement and wedding into one episode...they could've let the engagement play out for the season.
Hey, Happy 100th Birthday to James Earl Carter, best ex-president the US ever had.
And Radar was seething afterward while giving orders to the men on Burns's behalf.Still a bit over the top.
I think the episode played better to watch it.
It'd be a pretty rookie mistake for McGarrett, though.
Ah.
Looks like she'll be recurring for what's left of the series. And she may have previously popped up in a 1973 Emergency! review...her first listing on IMDb.
I thought it was odd how they stuffed the engagement and wedding into one episode...they could've let the engagement play out for the season.
I didn't get into detail about his stalling tactics in the courtroom, though honestly, I thought they let him have it too easy with that.
I think you're misunderestimating that crowd.That wasn't American orneriness, that was anti-American sissiness.
WANNA KISS MY-SELF!
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RIP, John Amos. It took a long time to get that news out.
Classic.
I can imagine.
Probably true.
Definitely true.
That's cool.
Yeah, that was way too rushed. I blame the Chief.
Well, I specifically meant the Donald, but I wasn't too impressed with the Moonshine Rebellion either. It's just that the Capitol police were unprepared. Like 2016, it wasn't so much that one side won as the other side lost.
Careful, you might inspire a remake.
50th Anniversary Viewing (Part 2)
The Six Million Dollar Man
"Pilot Error"
Originally aired September 27, 1974
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The episode opens with Steve piloting a simulation of an inexplicable crash that his co-pilot, Senator Edward Hill (Pat Hingle), was at the controls for as an Air Force Reserve officer, and is facing a board of inquiry over. This is to inform Steve's testimony when he's questioned as an expert witness, having test-piloted the plane. After Steve's out of earshot, the Senator's right-hand man, Joe Lannon (not to be confused with Dr. Winston O'Boogie; Alfred Ryder), asks Hill if Austin's with them or against them. Oscar also tries to influence Steve's testimony, the stakes being that the senator is a likely future vice-presidential candidate pick; and Oscar being motivated by how the Senator facilitated the funding of Steve's bionics without knowing what the money was for. Steve gets Oscar to lay off by literally strongarming him, lifting the side of his car in an airport parking lot, thus threatening his secret and Oscar's authority over him.
The senator and Steve are both scheduled for a flight to an Air Force base that's been delayed by hours, so Hill decides to fly his private plane with Steve as his co-pilot. Also on the trip are Lannon and Hill's pre-med son, Greg (Stephen Nathan). An air traffic controller tries to call the plane with a just-breaking advisory about some nasty weather, but Steve's getting some shuteye and Hill's switched his radio over to light, relaxing music. Bye, bye, Miss American Pie... As they fly into the weather, Steve and the passengers are out, while the senator has trouble keeping awake himself. He radios the plane's status in, but doesn't try to wake up Steve. Steve eventually comes to from the turbulence, finding Hill acting disoriented and the plane 100 miles off course. They're forced to fly through the weather, and lightning pops a line, causing oil to spray in Steve's face and Steve to cover his eyes. The plane is brought down in a dry and sunny patch of desert. Both of his eyes shut, Steve informs the senator that he can't see.
Greg treats and bandages Steve's eyes, noticing that one of them is artificial and badly discolored. While the senator's having a look at the engine, Lannon chastises Hill for having gotten into this situation, noting that the senator's been hiding having seen a specialist for what Hill dismisses as a temporary problem. The party having no water or working radio, Steve asks about the prospects of flying back out to learn that their obstacles are the oil line, a bent prop, and having to clear a 100-foot strip of rocks and brush. Steve outs himself to his traveling companions by unbending the prop, revealing to the senator that he was the six-million-dollar project. While Hill works on the oil line, the others start clearing the runway--a task that surprisingly doesn't involve any overt displays of bionic strength; Steve's just shown having an easier time picking up the rocks and tearing out brush. During a break, Lannon argues to Hill that they should be finding a way to leave Austin behind so that he can't testify, but the senator won't hear of it. Lannon subsequently finds his opportunity when he stumbles across a big rattler and steers Steve toward it. Steve ends up blindly wrestling with it and inadvertently tossing it in Lannon's direction, so that the snake poetically bites him instead...though this bit of business isn't clearly conveyed visually. Now the only member of the party who isn't impaired in some fashion, Greg treats the bite and declares that they have to get Lannon to a hospital.
Flying solo despite his mystery issue, the Senator gets the plane airborne. In the air, Steve can't see as Hill has another of his spells at the controls. At the Air Force control tower, Oscar confers with Major Phillips (Hank Stohl) and Airman Jill Denby (Suzanne Zenor, who clearly fills a show quota but whose acting isn't terribly convincing). On the plane, Steve soon surmises that something's wrong, and the senator goes into a state of shock. Steve takes the controls, breaking instrument glass to feel the analog indicators while Greg, who can't fly, serves as Steve's eyes for the readouts that aren't as tactile. The plane's radio being able to receive but not transmit, when Denby calls them, Steve responds by changing the transponder to an emergency code and pressing the "ident" button to initially flash yes and no responses, then Morse code, tersely informing her that he's blind and being assisted by a non-pilot. Denby does her part to guide Steve into a landing approach; Steve and Greg are then left to do the rest. The initial touchdown sends the plane bouncing back up, but Steve gains control from there, bringing the plane down intact as the emergency vehicles rush in.
In the coda, an Air Force doctor (Dennis McCarthy) gives Steve's natural eye a clean bill of health, declaring his other eye to be out of his field of expertise and crediting Greg for having saved his vision. Oscar has learned that the senator, who's since resigned, has a brain tumor, the malignancy of which hasn't been determined. Outside the hospital, Airman Denby makes a point of introducing herself to Steve, getting a spinning hug when he figures out who she is.
If there was an update on Lannon, I missed it. He pretty much fell out of the story once he was bitten.
Shazam!
"The Lure of the Lost"
Originally aired September 28, 1974
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There's tension in the van about Beethoven vs. generic but groovy-era rock music when the Elders call, telling Billy of someone who's been avoiding her responsibility out of love for her brother. No playwrights, poets, or philosophers are quoted--I guess Beethoven met that quota. They're soon flagged down by a groovy strawberry blonde named Holly (Christina Hart), but after they help her get her VW Beetle unstuck from the side of the road, she takes off without thanking them. She inadvertently leaves her handbag behind, and the Shazamic Duo find...
Mentor: Drugs.
Billy: Holy moley!
Following a brief Elder flashback, Billy whips out his dirt bike and takes off after Holly. Elsewhere, Mark (Derrel Maury) is putting pressure on Gary (Christopher Stafford Nelson), fearing trouble from a pusher named Brock if they don't get back the stuff that Holly took from them, which was meant for a delivery. Cut to Holly at her horse ranch, having filled in Billy about the situation, explaining that she was hiding the drugs from her brother, Gary, and his friend, Mark. After another brief flashback, Mentor shows signs of being a supernatural being himself when he unexpectedly pops up sitting in a tree to help Billy persuade Holly to face the situation.
Holly brings Billy to an arranged meeting at Mark's pad, but Mark claims that Billy's a pusher he served detention with who's trying to cut in on the action, causing Holly to lose confidence. Billy tries to convince Gary not to get in any deeper with someone like Brock, but when Mark presses him for the stuff, Billy hands it over...revealing to Holly after they leave that he gave them counterfeit stuff, and telling her to turn over the actual bag to the police while he pursues them. After he exits, she washes the contents down the drain instead. When Billy's unable to start Holly's Bug, Mentor pops up out of nowhere again, this time bringing Billy's bike and helmet with him.
An obvious stunt guy pursues the guys, who are driving what an image search tells me is a Volkswagen Thing.
When he loses them, an offscreen Billy announces that he needs Captain Marvel in an obvious bit of after-the-fact voiceover.
Cap catches up with them and initially gets them to stop by landing in front of the vehicle, but they take off when he goes to one of the doors. Pursuing them again, Cap sees that they're headed for a collision with a semi that's contrivedly stalled sideways across the windy road, and enables their reckless behavior by getting there ahead of them and pushing the truck out of the way. As Gary's trying to take the wheel from Mark, the vehicle goes over a cliff...just a little, teetering precariously on the edge so that the guys don't dare move. The show misses the opportunity to give us a literal cliffhanger by having Cap land in front of the vehicle and push it back up to safety.
Gary says that Billy was right, Mark admits to having lied about Billy, and Cap compliments Gary for seeing and admitting to his mistake. Mentor arrives in the van with Holly, but when Cap mentions using the smack as evidence to put Brock away, she tells them what she did. Cap underscores that Holly and Gary have nonetheless learned responsibility for themselves, and as the young folk head for an arriving sheriff's car, Mentor foreshadows that Brock's not going take it well when he learns that Gary and Mark are informing on him.
Lou Scheimer: Don't miss the exciting conclusion of this story, in the next episode of...Shazam!
Cap: Hi. You can learn an important lesson from Gary and Holly's experience today. When you're faced with a problem that you don't feel you can handle, running away isn't the answer. Try talking it over with somebody you can trust. As Mentor said, "Two heads are often better than one." See you next week.
Star Trek
"Albatross"
Originally aired September 28, 1974
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Captain's log, stardate 5275.6: Preparing to beam abord the Enterprise following the successful completion of delivery of medical supplies to the planet Dramia, in the remote Dramian star system.
It comes out that McCoy was in charge of an inoculation program in the system nineteen years prior, shortly after which a plague broke out. While McCoy has doubts about whether he may have been responsible, Kirk doesn't trust leaving him in the hands of Dramian justice, which is known to be brutally swift. The captain decides to investigate the planet where the plague occurred, and the Enterprise is pursued by a Dramian patrol ship.
Captain's log, stardate 5275.8: Underway to planet Dramia II for investigation of McCoy case. We are beyond subspace communications with Starfleet. Am proceeding under my own authority.
When Commander Demos's one-man craft is detected, Kirk has the hangar deck doors left open to give him the opportunity to "sneak" aboard. Kirk then has the ship impounded and Demos held as a stowaway.
Captain's log, stardate 5275.9: We are approaching Dramia II, where we hope to find the answers concerning the question of Dr. McCoy's guilt or innocence. Situation normal. Aurora reported in the sector, however.
The radiation of the aura is determined to be intense but non-lethal. Kirk and Spock beam down with Demos, finding the ruins of the settlement. They find that they're being shadowed by a Dramian survivor, whom Demos asserts is one of the "walking dead". They chase the Dramian into a cave, where they learn that he was off-planet when the plague struck. Then the only Dramian survivor who was on-planet at the time, an elder named Kol-Tai (Doohan), comes forward, and when he learns why the party is there, credits McCoy for saving his life and expresses his belief that the doctor couldn't have been responsible for the plague. Kirk brings Kol-Tai back to the ship with the intent of having him testify at the trial, but as the Enterprise rushes to Dramia after passing through the aurora again, Demos and the human crew of the Enterprise begin to succumb to the plague, the first symptom of which is blue skin coloration, which will change to green and red as the disease worsens. As Vulcans have been established to be immune, Kirk puts Spock in command for the next log...
Captain's log, stardate 5276.4: We are in orbit around the planet Dramia, under conditions of general quarantine. As commanding officer, I have ordered the activation of General Order 6.
Under General Order 6, the ship will self-destruct if everyone on the ship perishes from the plague.
Kirk again:
Captain's log, stardate 5276.8: Preparing to beam aboard the Enterprise following the Dramian ceremonies honoring Dr. Leonard McCoy for his significant achievements in the field of interstellar medicine.
The crew of the Enterprise mends fences with the grateful Dramians. Back on the ship, Spock chastises McCoy for having fallen behind in a routine duty.
McCoy: Jim, if I'm ever in jail again, don't send that Vulcan to release me...just let me rot!
Emergency!
"Gossip"
Originally aired September 28, 1974
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This is the second episode directed by Kevin Tighe.
Roy and Chet are trying to twist Johnny's arm to participate in the event, based on his having been a track star in high school, when the station gets called to a traffic accident involving two vehicles that are now a block apart. The first victim they see is a station wagon driver with an injured arm (uncredited John Ashton) who says he was swiped into by a truck that kept going. The squad proceeds down the street to an overturned armored car, helping the driver (Judd Laurance) get out after convincing him to put away his gun. Sporting an injured leg, the driver tells them that his brakes went out, and that there's a guard in the back, whom the paramedics can see is unconscious. Johnny liaises with Officer Vince about breaking into the truck to get to the guard. Johnny smashes through the glass of the back door's porthole; then, following relayed advice from the company, burns open the door with a blowtorch to confirm that the guard is alive.
At Rampart, Dix rebukes a nurse named Anne (Catherine Burns) for sharing some innuendo about Dr. Morton supposedly having credit issues. Later, when Dix is away from the desk, Anne shares her titular information about Morton's "severe financial difficulties" with Johnny and Roy, who brush it off. Then a Mrs. Harrow (Annette Cardona) dramatically rushes into the hospital carrying her unconscious young son, Dan, who suffered nausea after playing outside, then passed out. Early and Brackett find that his symptoms indicate cyanide poisoning. Brackett thoroughly questions the mother about any chemicals around the house or property. Then Dix discovers among the boy's possessions several little peach-pit baskets, and Brackett realizes that Dan may have eaten the peach seeds, which contain small amounts of cyanide.
At the station before bed, Johnny tries to explain to Roy why he wouldn't want to compete in track again, which he only did the first time to impress a girl, and Roy dangles the idea that Johnny could become a hero to the guys in the department. Back at Rampart, Brackett is treating Charles Johnson (uncredited Mark Russell), a plastics salesman who has a skull fracture from an accident. Dix goes out to the waiting area with a consent form for the next of kin and finds that there are two Mrs. Charles Johnson's present, Edna and Beth (Yvonne Craig and Zina Bethune).
Comparing notes, the two women realize that they're married to the same man. Edna, who's been married to him for seven years, pieces together that he married Beth while supposedly at a convention in Vegas the previous year.
Dix: Well, if you've been married for seven years, I guess you're the, uh...first next of kin.
Both Mrs. Johnsons sign the form and are interested to know when they'll be able to talk to Charlie.
Later in the staff lounge, Anne is gossiping with a couple of other nurses when Morton is called to see Brackett. Anne then shares her gossip about Morton with one of the nurses (Anne Schedeen). In his office, Kel asks Mike if there's anything he can do, officially or otherwise, to help with the financial trouble that he's heard Mike is in. This surprises Morton, who offers that he's been looking into financing a new car but the loan paperwork got tied up. This embarrasses Brackett, but Morton expresses his appreciation for Kel's offer.
At the station by night, Johnny's tells Roy how he tried running a 440 on his old high school track and is now experiencing bad lower body pain. The station is then called to a backlot hotel where a man who was working on the electric sign is now dangling from it by a harness after being electrocuted. While the paramedics climb a ladder to examine him, Capt. Stanley calls in to Rampart. The man has to be lowered down before defib can be applied, but at the hospital, Brackett is impressed that the paramedics managed to treat him in time.
When an elderly patient named Mrs. Blaine (Ruth McDevitt) asks Dix about switching to a doctor more responsible than Morton based on things she's heard, Dix storms out and takes Nurse Anne into Brackett's borrowed office to chew her out about her unprofessional behavior.
The station and other units are called to an explosion and fire at a chemical plant. As the paramedics are treating victims who've gotten out, a head-counting supervisor (Ross Elliott) realizes that a man named Perry is still inside. (Doesn't this happen in at least two out of every three episodes?) The firefighters go in with equipment to search the place and find him, Cap and Roy carrying him out. Roy then realizes that Johnny's still inside and goes back in for him. They find each other, Johnny having gotten lost, and make their way back out again just in time for the place to blow.
The episode ends on a humorous station beat as Roy lets Johnny off the hook about the event after Johnny tries to get him to compete.
The episode credits list Reb Brown as "2nd Victim," though I didn't catch him in any scenes. Contrary to the uncredited listings on IMDb, Eric Shea does not reappear in this episode--I assume a contributor got his character mixed up with the boy named Dan in this one.
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
"You Sometimes Hurt the One You Hate"
Originally aired September 28, 1974
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Jackie Cooper directs his only episode of MTM, which is one where Rhoda's absence really shows in the cast list--it's a main-cast-only episode and there's only four of them now! It also belatedly struck me as odd that Rhoda's departure was never addressed on this show. Just watching MTM, the character seems to disappear with no explanation...though I assume that she'll come up eventually, as one of the story premises for this season is about Lou moving into her old apartment.
Left with some time on the air to ad lib, Ted ends up endorsing one political candidate and briefly smearing his opponent, causing Lou to burst out of his office and head for the studio, tearing off the door handle to use as a weapon on the way...
Afterward, Lou says that he grabbed Ted and threw him through the studio door. An appalled Mary talks to Lou in his office.
Mary: Physical violence never settles anything!
Lou: Physical violence has settled every war in history, all football games, most prize fights, and several marriages I can think of!
Ted comes in stiff and with one shoulder hunched above the other, so Lou takes him to the hospital...initially planning to carry him down to his car.
Ted ends up in the hospital with a neck brace, enjoying a private room that Lou is paying for. When Lou visits with an armload of flowers, Ted plays up the seriousness of the injury and gets Lou to agree to do anything for him...though he was good enough to make up a story about a car accident to avoid implicating Lou.
The guilting continues when Ted returns to work, with Lou agreeing to let Ted take over his office to avoid taking the stairs to his dressing room; letting Ted have a new editorial feature segment; and keeping the thermostat set at a temperature that's uncomfortable for everyone else.
Lou: Ted should be in a warm place!
Murray: Someday, if there's any justice...
Mary has Lou over and tries to talk some sense into him, but after he rubs it in that his leaf-turning-over was her idea, Lou insists that he's going to continue being "the warmest, sweetest, nicest, most sympathetic, considerate, understanding human being you ever met in your life."
Mary: I don't think I like you anymore.
It all comes crashing down when Ted, doing the first installment of his new segment, announces on the air that he's suing WJM while emphasizing that he's not holding Lou Grant personally responsible. Making an effort to hold himself back, Lou reclaims his office and asks for Ted to be brought in.
"You've got just twenty seconds to take down those pictures while your face still resembles them."
In the coda, Lou emphasizes that he didn't have to resort to physical violence in dealing with Ted, but asks Mary to order a new door.
Mary: Uh, Mr. Grant, what's wrong with this door?
Lou: As soon as you leave, I'm gonna put my fist through it.
The Bob Newhart Show
"The Great Rimpau Medical Arts Co-op Experiment"
Originally aired September 28, 1974
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I don't think I mentioned how they changed the opening credits this season. Bob answering the phone is replaced by him changing the sign on his office door as he leaves, and we see Emily leaving her job as well. While I get what they're going for in not depicting her as dutifully waiting at home for her husband, I think it's a bit much that he's greeting her as she gets home, as I'm sure that he must work later hours.
Bob comes home after having a wart removed by Dr. Phil Newman; Emily object that Bob had to pay after having once advised Phil for free. At the office, Bob mentions this to Jerry, who gets the idea of forming a co-op so all of the doctors on the floor will treat each other for free. In addition to Newman and Bernie Tupperman, we get a couple of credited one-shot guest doctors, Sharon Rudell (Julie Payne), who's apparently a GP, and gynecologist Stan Whelan (Tom Lacy). Everyone thinks it's a great idea except for Bob, who gets the credit for it.
Just as Newman's complaining to Bob that Tupperman is taking advantage of his services, Bob gets a visit from Bernie's great aunt, Mrs. Loomis (Merie Earle making her first of three appearances in the role), who's expecting a check-up. Bob later complains to Emily that all and sundry, including friends, are showing up at his office and calling him at home. Bob has all of the doctors in his office for a group session, where Rudell engages in some scream therapy; and when he feels that they're getting nowhere in discussing their issues, announces that the experiment has ended, calling it by the name in the title...but he still has to take another appointment from Mrs. Loomis.
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"What would it cost to buy him?" asks Lannon, and is shocked by the answer.
A little hint of Oscar's amoral side.
And a little friction between Oscar's amoral side and Steve's moral code. I like it. It adds a little complexity to the relationship.
Steve is flying with a guy who inexplicably crashed a plane and hasn't been cleared yet and decides to nap through takeoff?
Can a prop-driven plane go that far off course in that amount of time?
I kind of remember this part.
Interesting relationship these two have.
And a broken radio, which they probably should have devoted some attention to, since it was able to recieve but not transmit.
I'm not sure I'd want to fly in a plane with a prop that was manually unbent by a blind man.
Okay, now he wants to murder a witness. This guy's all over the map.
Yet is not exactly horrified by the suggestion. Is he actually opposed to killing people who threaten his career or just concerned about the six-million-dollar investment he approved?
And he commits attempted murder anyway, against his boss's orders.
I'm not sure how realistic this is, but it's pretty cool.
Couldn't they have done this from the ground?
Nice touch, needing two attempts like that. It's both more realistic and adds to the tension.
All's well that ends well.
Did Steve ever even know that Lannon tried to kill him? I wonder if he died, but it was cut out of the episode. This was an interesting story, with no villains per se, just a life-threatening incident caused by an impaired politician with a little attempted homicide by his assistant thrown in to spice things up. And barely any bionic action. Steve's piloting skills and adaptability were his super powers.
Beethoven has already rolled over, Mentor.
Culture Quota: Met.
You would think somebody with drugs in her handbag would take special care not to leave it lying around.
Because the van suddenly isn't good enough?
Definitely a former Captain Marvel, or something. Maybe the Elders give different powers to their operatives based on their personality or something.
Mark is a natural-born politician.
When and how did he manage to come up with convincing counterfeit drugs?
Understandable behavior for the character, but oddly without consequence.
Weird. I wonder if we'll be seeing this in every episode now.
Well, he's tired. He just pushed a truck.
It's interesting that this was written as a two parter, since the main guest has already learned the moral of the story. And, aside from the ominous portents, there's no real cliffhanger. Maybe Brock will be the lesson-learner character in part two.
They took their sweet time presenting the warrant. What if McCoy had never returned to that area?
Just one of those free-floating space auroras....
Although he seems to have no actual evidence to that effect.
Which will never happen as long as Spock is there.
They should have had the planet ruled by a matriarchy called the Dramia Queens.
He was being wisely cautious, because, as we've seen in other shows, this could have been an elaborate scheme where the brakes were tampered with and the first responders were armored car robbers in disguise.
This is why I only eat junk food. Fruit is dangerous!
Spousal seniority.
It would have been nice to know how this story worked out.
The mom on ALF, I think.
This is some nice character stuff that we don't often see on the show.
Very soon to be Miss Emily.
Which seems to be the resolution of a very odd subplot about Dr Morton where he barely gets involved.
I was about to express my surprise that there are any chemical plants left in the area.
He was wearing a mask, so you didn't recognize him.
Wow. Talk about a bottle episode.
I never realized that. They must have had their big teary good-bye on the Rhoda premiere. There certainly must have been a big teary good-bye at some point. It would have been cool if they could have worked the same scene into both premieres.
Good grief.
Good grief!
Valid points. Er... I mean, that doesn't make it right!
Then Lou has a stroke and Ted has to agree to do anything for him.
"I hate lack of spunk."
That's more like it.
Too bad, since the phone references his signature gimmick.
That was him leaving work early at the beginning of the segment.
It would have been a fine idea if it just applied to the doctor's themselves-- which I would have assumed it would have.
Two more 50th Anniversary releases today,
First up - King Crimson "Red" UK Chart #45, US Billboard Chart #66
Next up - Barry Manilow II
US Billboard #9
Single - Mandy
US Billboard Chart#1, UK Chart #11
First up - King Crimson "Red" UK Chart #45, US Billboard Chart #66
The final album by the band, founder Robert Fripp having become increasingly disillusioned with the music industry. Fripp withdrew into himself and largely let bassist John Wetton and drummer Bill Bruford to direct the recording sessions; which is comprised largely of improvisations between the three members, with layers of guitar and keyboard overdubs. Bruford has subsequently said in his autobiography that recording sessions were so tense that after recording his drum/percussion parts, he would leave the recording studio, hop on his bike and ride home. It has been called one of the fifty "heaviest albums of all time" by Q Magazine. The title "Red" comes from the band observing the needles on the meters on the studio's mixing desk were seen to be "bouncing and crashing sharply into the red". An all-red cover was initially planned but was vetoed by the band's management and a composite photo of the three band members was used instead. By this point the three band members couldn't stand being around each other, so, individual head shots were taken and composited together. Two weeks before the release of the album, Robert Fripp announced the disbandment of the band and retirement from recording. This would last until 1977 when Robert was asked to contribute guitar on Peter Gabriel's debut album. He would then go on to produce and play guitar on Peter Gabriel's second album and be asked by Brian Eno to play guitar on David Bowie's "Heroes" as well as producing and playing guitar on Daryl Hall's debut solo album "Sacred Songs". Bassist John Wetton and drummer Bill Bruford would continue to collaborate, forming the progressive rock/jazz group "U.K.". Bruford would rejoin the reformed King Crimson in 1980.
Next up - Barry Manilow II
US Billboard #9
Single - Mandy
US Billboard Chart#1, UK Chart #11
Funny story - A young came into the shop yesterday and as she was waiting for her car to be serviced, I asked her what her name was and she replied "Mandy", and I looked at her and said, "Like the Barry Manilow song?" and she said, "Yes," her parents were Barry Manilow fans and they named her after the song and she was constantly asked about the connection.
There's another big fiftieth anniversary coming up in a couple of weeks, but I'm saving it until then.
There's another big fiftieth anniversary coming up in a couple of weeks, but I'm saving it until then.
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At least he went through Congress for Steve! It was played more like he and Steve owed a debt to the senator.
Yeah, that turned out to be an odd contrivance. As I was watching, I was expecting there to be a drug or gas involved.
Maybe. Depends on how long it was. Looking it up, the type of plane in question, the Ryan Navion, can go up to 174 mph. And fun fact--this was apparently the same plane the John Doe and Jack McGee survived the crash of in "Mystery Man": N4372K.
I didn't expect anything less from Alfred Ryder.
They weren't in contact with a tower at that point.
Apparently not.
I meant to mention that this one also reminded me a lot of "Little Orphan Airplane". It's like they're using a random plot generator and the same pieces come up in different combinations.
Well, she was a nervous rook.
Powdered milk and baking soda were commonly used as cinematic substitutes.
I'm thinking not, because this struck me as a bit of weirdness that I didn't remember.
I can see where my phrasing was ambiguous there. What I was saying was that he did land in front of the car and push it back up, and that the show was missing an opportunity to end the episode on a cliffhanger.
I think they probably have more to teach the audience about drugs...and at this point I'm thinking that maybe they were aiming at a slightly older audience, at least pre-teen. What would six-year-olds know about drugs?
The case against McCoy wasn't exactly evidence-based.
That's what I was thinking. Maybe in case something else happened to him.Which will never happen as long as Spock is there.
So he watched too much Hawaii Five-O?
That's what the search seemed to indicate.
It wasn't really about him.Which seems to be the resolution of a very odd subplot about Dr Morton where he barely gets involved.
They probably keep using the same one.I was about to express my surprise that there are any chemical plants left in the area.
Well, they used a hospital room set. Not a nurse or doctor in sight, tho.
The cap doesn't do the door handle gag justice.Good grief.
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It's amazing how often this happens in the music industry. It's not all glamour!
Yup, that's pretty heavy.
Ah, Daryl's House. My Brother used to watch that all the time.
This is one of maybe four Manilow songs that I like. The nostalgia is strong.
There's probably a million of them, literally. I had a girlfriend in junior high who was absolutely smitten with the guy. I couldn't understand it. I still liked some of his stuff anyway, though.
Maybe this guy is why he started going off the books with his experiments.
Wow, that's faster than I would have thought.
Okay, now you have to include the credits for all the planes that appear in these shows.
Aha, I didn't recognize the name. He was great in "The Man Trap."
There must have been search planes, though. Which, come to think of it, doesn't seem to have been talked about. Surely they would have been able to account for them being blown off course.
I guess the writing staff has their favorite tropes.
True.
But would they have the right ingredients and know-how to whip up convincing fakes so quickly? Or was it more Mentor Magic!
An angle they decided to drop, maybe.
Ah, right. It was not exactly an exciting continuation.
Were there Tweens in those day? Maybe they were going for a wider age range than regular Saturday morning shows.
Those weird alien legal systems.
Exactly.
We probably need to get OSHA involved.
No one can do rage quite like Ed Asner.
70 Years Ago This Month
October 2
- The New York Giants won the 1954 World Series baseball competition, sweeping the heavily favored Cleveland Indians in 4 games.
- The Jimmy Durante Show premieres on NBC (1954–1956).
October 9
- Robert H. Jackson, 62, United States Supreme Court associate justice and chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials, died of a myocardial infarction.
October 10
- Born: David Lee Roth, American hard rock singer, in Bloomington, Indiana
October 11
- The civil administration of North Vietnam was transferred to the Việt Minh, and Hồ Chí Minh was appointed Prime Minister of North Vietnam.
- Hurricane Hazel crossed Haiti, destroying villages and causing considerable damage to major cities. An estimated 1,000 people were killed. Hazel also destroyed about 40% of the coffee trees and 50% of the cacao crop, affecting the country's economy for several years.
October 12
- George Welch, 36, US test pilot and World War II flying ace, killed in the crash of a North American F-100A Super Sabre during a test flight; the incident resulted in the grounding of all F-100A aircraft.
October 14
- Hurricane Hazel made U.S. landfall; it is the only recorded Category 4 hurricane to strike as far north as North Carolina.
Also on October 14, White Christmas, starring Bing Crosby, Danny Kaye, Rosemary Clooney, and Vera-Ellen, premieres in New York.
October 16
- Elvis Presley made his first radio broadcast, on a show in Shreveport, Louisiana, called Louisiana Hayride.
October 18
- Texas Instruments announced the development of the first commercial transistor radio. The Regency TR-1 would go on sale the following month.
- The comic strip Hi and Lois, by Mort Walker and Dik Browne, was launched.
October 23
- West Germany joined NATO.
- The Paris Agreement set up the Western European Union to implement the Treaty of Brussels (1948), providing for mutual self-defence and other collaboration between Belgium, France, West Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom.
On October 28, Carmen Jones , starring Harry Belafonte, Dorothy Dandridge, Pearl Bailey, Olga James, and Joe Adams, is released.
October 29
- Sveriges Radio begins broadcasting TV in Sweden and apart from news and a weather forecast, the first Swedish TV programme is "En skål för televisionen" ("A Toast to Television") led by Lennart Hyland. For the first few months (until spring 1955), Swedish TV is broadcast one evening a week and for about an hour each time.
October 30
- A United States Navy Lockheed R7V-1 Constellation vanished over the North Atlantic Ocean 350 miles (560 km) off the coast of Maryland during a flight from Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Maryland, to Lajes Field in the Azores. The search for the missing aircraft would end on November 4 because of extreme weather conditions, and no sign of the plane or the 42 people on board was ever found.
Also on October 30, "Mr. Sandman" by The Chordettes charts (#1 on the Billboard Best Sellers in Stores chart the weeks of December 4, 1954, through January 15, 1955; #11 UK).
October 31
- The Algerian National Liberation Front began a revolt against French rule.
Also released in October:
"Earth Angel (Will You Be Mine)," The Penguins
"Framed," The Robins
Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month, as well as the year in film, music, television, and comics, with minor editing as needed. Sections separated from timeline entries are mine.
It may not have been specific to this model, but I'm sure that most single-prop planes can go well over 100 mph.
How about if I give you the tail numbers and delegate that responsibility to you?Okay, now you have to include the credits for all the planes that appear in these shows.
Keep in mind that they were in bad weather (though you couldn't tell from where they landed).
Though I do think I was always under the impression that he was a liaison with the Elders. Maybe stuff like this was why.
There were, whether or not we called them that.
I wanna see Ed Asner vs. Spock...maybe as the Odd Couple.No one can do rage quite like Ed Asner.
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I like Jimmy Durante. He's pretty funny, and was also a real nice guy.
Somehow it's more disturbing that David Lee Roth is 70 than it is that the Beatles are in their 80s.
Nice quality audio. They must have cleaned it up.
Comics Kingdom just started re-running the original strips in the past few weeks. Lois calls him "Hiram" all the time.
Classic 50s. Good stuff.
Also Classic 50s, also good stuff.
Cute. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it before, but it has a familiar sound to it.
Somehow I thought single-prop plane would have speeds comparable to a car, like 60-100mph.
Sure, why not?
Yeah, but you'd think the Search-and-Rescue folks could estimate where they might be based on the wind speed and direction.
True.
What I should have said was, did they market to them as a demographic? I seem to remember the term Tweens being created to draw attention to an overlooked age group.It just occurred to me that Ed Asner would have made a good Klingon.
50 Years Ago This Week
October 6
October 7
October 8
October 9
October 10
October 11
Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
Leaving the chart:
Recent and new on the chart:
"Love Don't Love Nobody, Pt. 1," The Spinners
(Sept. 21; #15 US; #4 R&B)
"Rockin' Soul," The Hues Corporation
(#18 US; #5 Dance; #6 R&B; #24 UK)
"You Got the Love," Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
(#11 US; #1 R&B)
"Kung Fu Fighting," Carl Douglas
(#1 US the weeks of Dec. 7 and 14, 1974; #1 R&B; #1 UK)
And new on the boob tube:
Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.
I meant to mention that the music Billy was listening to last week was also Squiggy-disapproved.
To find another example, the Cessna 140 in which Mrs. Bell was supposed to be taking a flying lesson in Live and Let Die (N77029) would have had a top speed of about 125 mph when its wings were still attached.
October 6
- Argentine Formula One racing driver Carlos Reutemann won the 1974 United States Grand Prix at the Watkins Glen Grand Prix Race Course in Watkins Glen, New York. Brazilian driver Emerson Fittipaldi secured the win of the 1974 World Championship of Drivers with his fourth-place finish. The race was marred by the death of 25-year-old Austrian driver Helmuth Koinigg, who was decapitated after crashing on the 10th lap; his car broke through two catch fences and then went under a guard rail.
October 7
- Leonid Brezhnev, General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, attended the East German Republic Day Parade of 1974, a military parade on Karl-Marx-Allee in East Berlin, commemorating the 25th anniversary of the establishment of East Germany. The United States, Great Britain and France, which did not recognize the right of East Germany to have soldiers in East Berlin, condemned the parade.
- Wilbur Mills, Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives for almost 17 years, had his political career ended by a bizarre incident of public intoxication. Mills was drunk when police pulled over the car he was riding in, along with his extramarital mistress, Fanne Foxe. Although he won re-election as a Congressman from Arkansas, he compounded his reputation for drinking irresponsibly on November 30 as reporters followed him and would resign on December 1.
October 8
- In the largest bank failure in U.S. history, Franklin National Bank on Long Island, adjacent to New York City, collapsed after becoming insolvent and having insufficient assets to pay the interest on a one-billion-dollar loan from the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank.
- U.S. President Gerald Ford launched his "Whip Inflation Now" (WIN) campaign in conjunction with a speech to Congress to reduce the federal deficit by reducing federal spending and raising the income tax for corporations and wealthy individuals by five percent. The "WIN" campaign was intended to encourage Americans to save money by reducing personal spending. The next day in major newspapers, a button that said "WIN" on it was offered to anyone who signed and mailed back a pledge that said, "Dear President Ford: I enlist as an inflation fighter and Energy Saver for the duration. I will do the very best I can for America."
- In La Paz, Bolivia, a bomb destroyed a statue of former U.S. President John F. Kennedy on the Avenue of the Americas. There were no injuries.
- John Lennon met the veteran record industry executive Morris Levy to discuss an out-of-court settlement for John's copyright infringement of Chuck Berry's "You Can't Catch Me" in the Beatles' "Come Together" from 1969.
October 9
- The IBM 3850 computer accessory, the first to use compact cartridges for nearline storage, was introduced by the IBM company. The 3850 Mass Storage System could store a then-record 50 megabytes of memory on a small 4 inches (100 mm) long cartridge with a 70 inches (1,800 mm) long spool of magnetic tape, useful for holding infrequently used programming and data. Each cartridge could be loaded, when necessary, at a cost cheaper than maintaining data in a computer hard drive.
- Died: Oskar Schindler, 66, Sudeten German businessman and humanitarian, profiled in the 1993 film Schindler's List for saving 1,200 Jews from death in the Kraków-Płaszów concentration camp during the Holocaust.
October 10
- Elections were held for all 635 seats of the House of Commons of the United Kingdom. The Labour Party of Prime Minister Harold Wilson increased its share to a 319 to 277 majority over the Conservative Party of former Prime Minister Edward Heath, after having a 301 to 297 plurality. The conservative Tories lost 20 seats. The Liberal Party lost one of its 14 seats and finished in third place.
- Joseph Wulf, 61, German-Polish Jewish historian and survivor of the Auschwitz concentration camp, jumped to his death from the fifth-floor window of his apartment in Charlottenburg, West Berlin.
October 11
- One of the first popular crime horror films, The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (as billed in the credits and in its copyright registration), more popularly written as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, premiered in theaters. Produced and directed by Tobe Hooper, the low-budget ($140,000) movie, with a cast of unknowns (starring Marilyn Burns and Paul A. Partain), returned more than 200 times its investment, grossing $30,900,000 worldwide.
- In Burien, Washington, Seattle Times photographer Jerry Gay took the Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph Lull in the Battle, depicting 4 firefighters resting after fighting an early-morning house fire.
Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
Leaving the chart:
- "Feel Like Makin' Love," Roberta Flack (16 weeks)
- "It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It)," The Rolling Stones (10 weeks)
- "The Night Chicago Died," Paper Lace (17 weeks)
- "One Hell of a Woman," Mac Davis (28 weeks)
- "Rub It In," Billy "Crash" Craddock (15 weeks)
- "Sideshow," Blue Magic (21 weeks)
- "Surfin' U.S.A.," The Beach Boys (25 weeks total; 8 weeks this run)
- "Tell Me Something Good," Rufus (17 weeks)
- "Wild Thing," Fancy (17 weeks)
- "Wildwood Weed," Jim Stafford (14 weeks)
Recent and new on the chart:
"Love Don't Love Nobody, Pt. 1," The Spinners
"Rockin' Soul," The Hues Corporation
"You Got the Love," Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
"Kung Fu Fighting," Carl Douglas
And new on the boob tube:
- Happy Days, "R.O.T.C."
- Adam-12, "Team Work"
- M*A*S*H, "O.R."
- Hawaii Five-O, "Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb?"
- The Odd Couple, "The Dog Story"
- Ironside, "Cross Doublecross"
- Planet of the Apes, "The Legacy"
- Shazam!, "The Athlete"
- Star Trek, "The Counter-Clock Incident" (Animated Series finale)
- Kung Fu, "My Brother, My Executioner"
- All in the Family, "Lionel the Live-In"
- Emergency!, "Communication Gaffe"
- The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "The Outsider"
- The Bob Newhart Show, "Sorry, Wrong Mother"
Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.
One of those bands that I've heard of but couldn't say what they did.
FWIW, the single's coming up chart-wise in mid-November.
What, you're not gonna sic Squiggy on him?
I meant to mention that the music Billy was listening to last week was also Squiggy-disapproved.
My sister was into him for a spell. She had his double live album and some singles. I recall it coming up somewhere upthread, but the most memorable thing on the album was a medley of commercial jingles that he'd written.There's probably a million of them, literally. I had a girlfriend in junior high who was absolutely smitten with the guy. I couldn't understand it. I still liked some of his stuff anyway, though.
Yeah, that was a nice historical tidbit in the Ascension of the King.
I was torn about whether I should wait for the date that it started its run at #1, but this is a piece of recognizable enough trad pop business of the era that I have it in my collection.
Another number that will become a mainstream chart-topper when covered by the Crew-Cuts.
The group came up previously, for "Riot in Cell Block #9". I mentioned at the time that the Robins were an earlier incarnation of the Coasters. "Framed" was actually released as a B-side, hence not having a chart position.
Maybe in the WWI era. Some go considerably faster. (Any search attempt at finding the slowest they go invariably led to results about the fastest.) And that's just multi-seat civilian planes, never mind that single-prop fighters could go over 400 mph.
To find another example, the Cessna 140 in which Mrs. Bell was supposed to be taking a flying lesson in Live and Let Die (N77029) would have had a top speed of about 125 mph when its wings were still attached.
You'll just forget what it's for.Sure, why not?
Every age group has stuff aimed at it, whether or not they've got a buzzworthy moniker at the time.True.
Oh, that's come up before! Not sure if it was here or in the TOS forum in another context. Wanna say that it was probably in the Guest Actors thread where we'd gotten off on a brief tangent about actors who would've made good TOS Klingons.It just occurred to me that Ed Asner would have made a good Klingon.
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There's probably a million of them, literally. I had a girlfriend in junior high who was absolutely smitten with the guy. I couldn't understand it. I still liked some of his stuff anyway, though.
My Dad and his wife saw Barry Manilow when he came to town about twenty years ago and some friends of mine have seen him in concert in Las Vegas, and they have all said he puts on an entertaining performance and is the consumate showman; and I must confess that we had his albums growing up and I have his "Greatest Hits" on CD that I still play on occasion.
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I think they're one of the definitions of a "cult" band. Everyone has heard of them, but no one knows any of their albums/material. Their albums are considered the defining Progressive albums of the late-sixties/early-seventies; and the members that passed through, some of which would go on to have impressive pedigrees in other bands - Greg Lake (Emerson, Lake and Palmer), John Wetton (Asia), Bill Bruford (Yes), Adrian Belew (Frank Zappa, David Bowie, Talking Heads), Tony Levin (Peter Gabriel).
They're also a challenging band to listen to. They're not someone you can just throw on and have as background music while you're doing something else. It requires you to sit down and listen to the musical interplay between the musicians and their instruments and their uncommon time signatures.
They're also a challenging band to listen to. They're not someone you can just throw on and have as background music while you're doing something else. It requires you to sit down and listen to the musical interplay between the musicians and their instruments and their uncommon time signatures.
Glad it's not just me. And their material wasn't represented in the earlier versions of the Rolling Stone lists that I go by.
Opening narration done by a young John Larroquette. Based in part on the real-life serial killer Ed Gein, who was the inspiration for Norman Bates in "Psycho", "Deranged", and Buffalo Bill "Silence of the Lambs".
Tobe Hopper also directed what could be considered a "side-quel" to "Chain Saw" called "Eaten Alive".
Tobe Hopper also directed what could be considered a "side-quel" to "Chain Saw" called "Eaten Alive".