The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

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  1. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

    American Graffiti
    Directed by George Lucas
    Starring Richard Dreyfuss, Ronny Howard, Paul Le Mat, Charlie Martin Smith, Candy Clark, Mackenzie Phillips, Cindy Williams, and Wolfman Jack
    Premiered August 1, 1973
    1974 Academy Award nominee for Best Picture; Best Actress in a Supporting Role (Candy Clark); Best Director; Best Writing, Story and Screenplay Based on Factual Material or Material Not Previously Published or Produced; Best Film Editing

    The film opens with the breakout hit of the genre, 1955's "Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley & His Comets...which will derivatively be used as the opening theme of Happy Days for its first two seasons. The film is so loaded with great classics from the mid-'50s to the early '60s that I won't attempt to cover them all here...perhaps I'll do a separate post about the double-LP soundtrack, which has been doing well on the album chart in 50th Anniversaryland. I have to question whether material from the mid-to-late '50s would have still been so active on the radio in '62, at the expense of more immediately period-authentic material (like Spector-produced girl groups, which are completely absent). I'm willing to suspend my disbelief because (a) first and foremost, it's a great soundtrack in its own right, covering highlights of the rock and roll era up to the point that the film takes place; (b) the film is probably informed by Lucas's teenage experiences in general, rather than attempting to recreate that specific moment; and (c) the cat spinning the platters is Wolfman Jack, and the Wolfman gonna do his own thing, ya dig? Awwwoooooooooo!

    At the hop, Herby & the Heartbeats (Flash Cadillac & the Continental Kids) play..."At the Hop". Curt--the story's obvious Lucas stand-in, who's not eager to leave the old hometown--wanders the school halls in nostalgia. Out on the streets, John gets into an argument with Carol about that new group the Beach Boys as "Surfin' Safari" plays; John feeling that rock 'n' roll's gone downhill since Buddy Holly died.

    This happens after Terry has an encounter with Bob Falfa (Harrison Ford), who's looking to drag with John based on his reputation for having the hottest wheels on the strip. More on Falfa later.

    Back at the hop...

    The band subsequently performs "Louie, Louie"; and Laurie's spirits lift after Steve, who's already graduated, takes an opportunity to tell off what I assume is the principal. Outside, Curt continues his quest to find the blonde by getting a ride with his old girlfriend, Wendy (Deby Celiz), and her Beetle-driving friend Bobbie (Lynne Marie Stewart), making out with Wendy a little in the backseat.

    This Is My Cousin, Carol
    Water Balloon Prank

    Curt covers for the Pharaohs when they're ripping off the machines at a miniature golf place by chatting up the proprietor, Mr. Gordon (Scott Beach), a member of the lodge that granted him a scholarship.

    Pharaohs and the Cop Car

    Toad Gets Lucky
    Terry then has a run-in with Steve--who's just split up with Laurie--at the local canal makeout spot, and has to lie about the car's absence.

    Ladies and gentlemen...

    This is after Laurie returned to the drive-in to see a car hop, Budda (Jana Bellan), hitting on Steve. After Laurie gets in Falfa's car, a scene ensues of Harrison serenading Cindy with "Some Enchanted Evening" in a mock singing voice that (looking it up) appears to be an imitation of Ezio Pinza's hit 1949 recording.

    Debbie: Wow, you're just like the Lone Ranger.​

    ...and seeming a little more motivated to go through with leaving town after his bridge-burning misadventures with them...

    I assume that the Wiki writer meant to say "omnipresent," which is what Wolfman is up to this point in the film, on the radios of the cruising cars.

    ...having tricked her into divulging her address by pretending to come on to her...

    This is all a reversal of the situation set up at the beginning of the film, of Steve being the one eager to blow town while Curt is reluctant to leave.

    The implicit draft dodger does scripts for Ironside. :p

    The credits roll to a musical peek slightly ahead, 1964's "All Summer Long" by the Beach Boys.

    Overall this was a fun romp and well worth catching for its cast chock full of largely emerging '70s stars, soundtrack, and beautifully shot location work of vintage cars cruising a California strip.

    Notes relating to recent bits of 50th Anniversary Viewing business:
    • Seeing the movie is informative to the subsequent LAS segment "Love and the Time Machine," which starred Charlie Martin Smith and Cindy Williams (who didn't share much screen time in the film).
    • This is the first IMDb credit of Kathleen Quinlan, who plays Laurie's friend Peg in the sock hop scenes; her recently covered Emergency! appearance is her second credit.


    Yep, and lots more!
    Daws Butler - Wikipedia
    I assume he was in the Christmas parody record as well, as it used the same voice cast.

    I find it amusing that the original Dragnet parody record, the follow-up holiday parody record, and the actual Dragnet holiday episode all came up in the same quarter! Also, there's an interesting connection in the Dragnet episode with the AITF holiday installment from 20 years later--Joe Friday's also conflating holiday mailings from businesses with actual Christmas cards, going through the trouble of sending them cards every year in return!

    The end of an era...but interestingly, the Two-Gun Kid bit of business reminds us that this was about the same time that Atlas (as Marvel was known at the time) was engaging in its brief 1950s attempt at reviving its superhero line.


    This phase of Tony's career ties in with the tragically young death of my ex's aspiring singer who recorded himself performing, among other numbers of the time, "Rags to Riches" and "Stranger in Paradise," prior to his death in 1954, when she was only a year old. She first heard the tapes when she was in her 40s. And uncannily, he opened one of the recordings directly addressing his children..."Do you wanna hear Daddy sing?"

    Kind of a nifty parallel that he currently holds executive office in both eras.

    They seem to be saying that the episode was filmed in color, though the source of the YouTube clips is B&W. This episode was remade for the 1960s series, and that version was reaired in subsequent seasons. An artifact of this is that, IIRC, though the remade episode originally aired in the Dragnet 1968 season, in syndication it bears a Dragnet 1970 opening title card and a Dragnet 1969 closing title card!

    They would have some viewing options for their investment...Adventures of Superman filmed part of its run in color.

    So red tides are an actual thing? I thought they were just pulling it out of their collective ass.


    And as noted, completely disconnected from the main plot about Edith. They could have plugged any other material into that segment. The main side-gag at the house was an early sequence about how both Mike and Archie came home from a sale at a novelty store with glasses with fake noses and mustaches, which itself didn't seem particularly Christmas-specific.

    Proportionally, they were the equivalent of smaller portable storage cases that you'd use to keep cassettes or CDs in your car.

    Looking it up, it was actually the eighth-aired episode, "Goodbye Island," and the adhesive was made by Gilligan from tree sap.
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  2. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Maybe he was trying to emphasize the nostalgia, since it was really only ten years in the past at that point.

    Also, it probably depended on which radio station you listened to.

    Just wait'll next year. :rommie:

    She's heading for Santa Monica, my friend. :rommie:

    Now there's a shot you've got to get in one take. :rommie:

    I dunno, maybe the Wolfman is to American Graffiti what Chuck was to Supernatural. :rommie: That was a cute scene where he pretended to be nobody and gave the kid advice.

    :rommie: I wonder if this is the first example of those little where-are-they-now epilogues that appeared, and were eventually parodied, in other movies.

    Those shots were pretty amazing. I was thinking about the logistics of setting all that up on such a low budget. These days it would be mostly CGI.

    He was, and I recognized the voice, but it finally dawned on me where I was remembering him from. That's quite an itinerary of classic characters to his credit.

    That seems a little naive for Joe, who's usually up on every scam in the multiverse.


    Wow, that must have been amazing and heartbreaking for her. Was she able to digitize the recordings to preserve them?

    Speaking of those where-are-they-now epilogues. "After a couple of setbacks, Dick became president of the United States...."

    What a mess for historians. :rommie:

    But not much else. There weren't even many color movies in those days, and I'm not sure if they even aired them on TV.

    Oh, yeah, we get them around here. Some of them are pretty bad.

    That makes sense.

    Oh, yes, it comes back to me now. He was actually trying to make syrup for their pancakes. :rommie:
  3. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    50 Years Ago This Week

    December 30
    • The Minnesota Vikings and the Miami Dolphins won the NFC and AFC championships, respectively, by the same score, putting both into Super Bowl VIII, scheduled for January 13, 1974, in Houston. Minnesota beat Dallas, 27 to 10, and Miami defeated Oakland, 27 to 10.

    December 31
    • In the United Kingdom, as a result of coal shortages caused by industrial action, the Three-Day Week electricity consumption reduction measure came into force at midnight. The three-day restriction, allowing manufacturers to use electricity on only three out of seven days in a week, would continue in effect until February 21.
    • In a rare postseason meeting of two of the unbeaten and untied college football teams in the U.S., No. 1-ranked Alabama (11-0-0) met No. 4 Notre Dame (10-0-0) in the Sugar Bowl game in New Orleans. Notre Dame defeated Alabama, which had been named national champion by UPI on December 4, by a single point, 24–23.
    • In Sydney, Australia, the heavy metal group AC/DC performed their first major concert, a New Year's Eve gala at the Bondi Lifesaver Club at Bondi Beach.

    :beer: 1974! :beer:

    January 1
    • New Year's Day was celebrated as a public holiday in the United Kingdom for the first time nationwide, as England and Wales joined in making the first day of the year a paid legal holiday. Scotland had celebrated New Year's Day as a public holiday for years, and the order was applied to all of Britain by an October 8 amendment to existing wage laws.
    • In the U.S. college football bowl games, the #4-ranked Ohio State Buckeyes defeated the #7 USC Trojans 42 to 21 to win the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California; the #6 Penn State Nittany Lions beat the #13 LSU Tigers 16 to 9 to win the 1974 Orange Bowl in Miami; and the #12 Nebraska Cornhuskers upset the #8 Texas Longhorns 19 to 3 to win the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.
    • Due to the oil crisis, large numbers of gas stations throughout the United States were closed on New Year's Day. Mrs. Judith Kathleen Bovard of Lake Jackson, Texas, was killed when her car crashed and burned while she was carrying a can of gasoline.

    January 2
    • The maximum speed limit on U.S. highways was lowered to 55 miles per hour (89 km/h), a limit that would remain in effect for the next 13 years, in order to conserve gasoline during the OPEC embargo. The decrease in the speed limit (which had been 70 miles per hour (110 km/h)) was made as U.S. President Richard Nixon signed the National Maximum Speed Law. The result was a 23 percent decrease in fatalities on American highways with 853 fewer deaths in January 1974 compared to January 1973.
    • On their 48th day of spaceflight, the Skylab 4 crew held a televised news conference while in Earth orbit, during which astronaut William Pogue said that he tried too hard to do a good job in the early phases of the mission, but then "finally came to the realization that I'm a fallible human being". Mission commander Gerald Carr said that he missed drinking cold beer while watching football. Astronaut Edward Gibson said that he was pleased to be contributing to science.

    January 3
    • With the NCAA recognizing the unofficial champion of college football as the team that finished in first place in the Associated Press poll of sportswriters (as well as United Press International's poll of coaches), the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame finished in first place in the AP poll. Notre Dame, which finished 10-0-0 in regular play and defeated 11-0-0 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, received 33 first place votes and 1,128 points overall to finish at number one, while Ohio State (10-0-1) had 11 first place votes and 1,002 points. The UPI poll, taken before the 1973 bowl games, had declared Alabama the national champion in December.

    January 4
    • Citing executive privilege, U.S. President Richard Nixon refused to surrender over 500 tape recordings that had been subpoenaed by the Senate Watergate Committee.
    • American serial killer Ted Bundy attacked his first victim, University of Washington student Karen Sparks, by invading her apartment, then bludgeoning her with a medal rod and assaulting her. Sparks survived the attack but was left permanently disabled.

    Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:

    Leaving the chart:
    • "Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat," The DeFranco Family feat. Tony DeFranco (17 weeks)
    • "Keep On Truckin'," Eddie Kendricks (19 weeks)
    • "Love Reign O'er Me," The Who (5 weeks)
    • "Paper Roses," Marie Osmond (16 weeks)

    Recent and new on the chart:

    "When I Fall in Love" / "Are You Lonesome Tonight", Donny Osmond

    (Nov. 24; #14 US; #31 AC; #4 UK; I picked this side because some sources indicate that it hit #14, while "When I Fall in Love" only got to #55; and yes, Donny, my heart is filled with pain)

    "Last Time I Saw Him," Diana Ross

    (#14 US; #1 AC; #15 R&B; #35 UK)

    "Americans," Byron MacGregor

    (#4 US; #26 AC; #59 Country)

    "Boogie Down," Eddie Kendricks

    (#2 US; #1 R&B; #39 UK)

    And new on the boob tube:
    • Hawaii Five-O, "The Banzai Pipeline"
    • Kung Fu, "The Gunman"
    • Ironside, "Friend or Foe"
    • The Brady Bunch, "Kelly's Kids"
    • The Odd Couple, "The Moonlighter"
    • Love, American Style, "Love and the Extra Job / Love and the Flying Finletters / Love and the Golden Worm / Love and the Itchy Condition / Love and the Patrolperson"
    • Star Trek, "The Eye of the Beholder"
    • All in the Family, "Mike and Gloria Mix it Up"
    • M*A*S*H, "Henry in Love"
    • Emergency!, "Inferno"
    • The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "WJM Tries Harder"
    • The Bob Newhart Show, "Oh, Brother"


    Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki page for the month.


    I'm also floating the theory that Wolfman Jack actually traveled back in time and influenced history...

    A little more than that.

    Home of the Regal Beagle!

    That is an excellent question that hadn't occurred to me, and it seems that you've hit the jackpot, my friend!
    what was the first movie with a where are they now epilogue - Search (

    Also, I read that the town where they shot the cruising scenes cut their shooting time short. You couldn't tell from the final product.

    Yogi Bear and Huckleberry Hound!

    Maybe he was trolling them...

    I think that they were recently digitized...possibly by the ex-brother-in-law who put them on cassette in the '90s.

    But wait, there's more...!
  4. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Oct 13, 2019
    Unimatrix 259
    An I Dream of Jeannie banner I made ages ago.

    Jeannie through the years:

  5. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Happy Old New Year! That clip doesn't ring any bells, but there's a 99% chance I was watching.

    Thank goodness they repealed that terrible law.

    I hope he wasn't in charge of life support.

    I hope he wasn't in charge of life support.

    I hope he was in charge of life support.

    My ears are filled with pain. :rommie:

    This is a goodie. Of course!

    Imagine the outrage on social media! :rommie:

    Sounds like the 70s, all right.

    Wolfman Jack is a Leaper! I like that! :rommie:

    Isn't Beatlemania about to erupt?


    Good on me. They even call it the same thing. :rommie:

    No, it looked pretty amazing.

    It finally clicked for me that it was the Quisp voice. Quisp was my favorite cereal back in the day. Until fairly recently, it was available again through Amazon. Alas, it seems to have disappeared from there and the Quaker Oats website....

    He included a ten-page dissertation on the true meaning of the holiday. :rommie:

    That's good. Stuff like that should be saved and preserved.

    So much more.... :rommie:

    She was a great beauty, all right. One of my favorites.
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  6. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut

    50th Anniversary Viewing


    Love, American Style
    "Love and Carmen Lopez / Love and the Cover / Love and the Cryin' Cowboy"
    Originally aired December 28, 1973

    "Love and Carmen Lopez" features the titular character (Carmen Zapata) intermittently narrating to the camera about how she's been the housekeeper for the Muncie family for 23 years. The Muncies includes toy company owner Louis (William Schallert), wife Marie (Barbara Baxley), and teenage son Bobby (Vincent Van Patten). Carmen has two children of her own in the household, Alicia (Mina Vasquez) and Carlos Jr. (Fabian Gregory Cordova). The latter is about the same age as Bobby, while Alicia is the same age as the elder Muncie son, Brian (George McCallister), who's coming home from school after not having seen Alicia in two years. At dinner, Brian and Alicia are focused only on each other, and Carmen later catches them making out. After they approach her to bring up the subject of marriage, she's listing the reasons why it's a bad idea--including that the couple had lived as brother and sister most of their lives--when she's interrupted by the latest in a series of visits from the new gardener, Alejandro Sanchez (Vito Scotti), who's interested in her. This time he succeeds in getting through her defenses and the two of them start seeing each other; even as Brian and Alicia accept that they're satisfied with the fact that they're already effectively living together.

    Mr. and Mrs. Muncie take Carmen aside to inform her that they're planning to replace Alejandro with a landscaping service. Carmen subsequently announces to them that she has to resign as she's planning to marry Alejandro and move with him as he pursues an opportunity for his part-time band. None of the Muncies want to lose Carmen, so Mr. Muncie offers a compromise--that Carmen and Alejandro remain at the house, with Alejandro taking on new duties...which Carmen had previously suggested. Cut to the newlyweds cutting their wedding cake in the Muncie home. Muncie's present is a new doll being made by his company that's named after Carmen; and Alicia catches the bouquet.

    "Love and the Cover" opens with Rollo and Freida (Doc Severinsen and Beth Howland) spending their fifth anniversary playing charades with neighbors Fred and Charlotte (Danny Wells and Phoebe Noel). After their guests leave, Rollo whips out a miniature transmitter and reports intelligence about the neighbors, which is a surprise to Freida. Rollo reveals that he's a spy; that he's confirmed that their neighbors are a pair of foreign saboteurs, Olga and Yuri Crackover; that their marriage and his job as a dentist were just a cover for him; and that he's now planning to move on to a new job and a new cover marriage. He dispassionately presents his distraught wife with a large series of forms she has to sign to dissolve their union and set her up with a new identity, while a pair of agents arrive to clean out their house. When she's alone in the house empty of everything but forms spread out all over the floor, Freida is approached by a man from the diplomatic service (Ben Hammer), who offers to reconcile her with Rollo so she can spy on him, as they suspect him of being a double agent. She agrees, and he presents her with a new series of forms to be filled out.

    In "Love and the Cryin' Cowboy," Earlane (Lisa Todd) walks out on her longtime beau, country singer Cleyon Potts (Mel Tillis), and he immediately sits down to write a hit single about his failed relationship with the former waitress, "Crying in My Beer". Cleyon's agent, Alvin (Joseph Sirola), isn't comfortable with the price of his client's success, but Cleyon's manager, Homer (Lonnie Schorr), is happy with the winning formula. Cleyon--who, like Tillis, stutters when talking but not when singing--introduces them to his new girlfriend, April Ann (Diana Trask), for whom he performs an earlier hit inspired by another failed relationship, "Footprints 'Cross My Heart". Then Cleyon horrifies his agent and manager by unveiling a pair of new, sappy songs about how happy he is with April Ann--"10 Tingles," about the sensation that she evokes in his toes, and another about how she's an angel who came down from Heaven. By the couple's six-month anniversary, April Ann seems disenchanted with their relationship, but Cleyon is still on his streak of bad songs about her. Then, when Cleyon's not around, Alvin and Homer overhear her performing a downbeat ballad in the next room about how she longs for her man to take her off her pedestal and let her be a woman...and the agent and manager realize that they've found a new star with the same formula that Cleyon formerly used. Cut to April Ann's smash hit playing on the radio, while her implicitly ex-husband has become a has-been.


    I may have been, too. I can recall Dick Clark's show being the new alternative to whatever Grandma watched...probably Guy Lombardo.

    For me, the ears were just the entry point. Maybe Wolfman Jack's mission was to stop the Osmonds from becoming a thing...

    Not one of her more memorable numbers.

    Seems like it's been a while since we had a conservative spoken-word hit. I'm torn between swelling with patriotic pride and not wanting to be seen with this record...

    Another oddly obscure high-charter by Kendricks.

    Well, that barely started by the end of ''s more of a '64 thing.

    That's more like Friday--the written equivalent of a monotone lecture.

    Happy New Year!
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  7. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

    Enter the Dragon
    Directed by Robert Clouse
    Starring Bruce Lee, John Saxon, Ahna Capri, Shih Kien, Bob Wall, and introducing Jim Kelly
    Premiered July 26, 1973 (Hong Kong); August 17, 1973 (New York)
    And now a look at how far Bruce Lee had come between when we were watching him as Kato and his tragically young death...a period in which he developed his own hybrid martial art. Lee is an icon in the true, classic sense of the word (before it got watered down to a synonym for "celebrity"). He is to martial arts what Elvis is to rock 'n' roll.

    The film's music is by Lalo Schifrin.

    We meet the character of Lee as he spars with and instructs pupils at a Shaolin Temple. The temple's abbot (uncredited Roy Chiao) preps Lee for the meeting with Braithwaite by informing him of how Han is a former student gone bad, which makes Lee's mission more of a duty for the temple. In the briefing, Braithwaite notes that his unnamed agency gathers and shares intelligence but doesn't enforce; establishes that guns aren't to be used, as the island is in disputed waters and Han is known not to have any; and reveals that he has an operative on the island, Mei Ling (Betty Chung).

    This is conveyed via a flashback during Lee's journey in which an old man at the temple (Ho Lee Yan, who also sounds like he's voiced by Luke) tells a story in the form of an extensive flashback-within-a-flashback, which depicts Su Lin (Angela Mao) in a running battle against her assailants, ending with her taking her own life via a shard of glass rather than fall into the clutches of Oharra (as the credits themselves spell his name). This sequence also gives us the origin of Oharra's facial scar, when the old man tries to hold off the assailants with a knife to give Su Lin a chance to escape.

    These characters are introduced with their own flashbacks while they approach the boat. Roper's is of fighting off the enforcers of a debtor at a golf course. Williams recalls fighting back when harassed by racist cops in the States, ultimately commandeering their squad car for his getaway! (That part could have been the basis of its own film.) The two reacquaint on the boat and scope out the other participants heading for the island, including Parsons (Peter Archer) from New Zealand; and Lee, whom neither is familiar with, as they were in 'Nam when The Green Hornet was airing. Roper loses a bet to Lee over a praying mantis fight on the boat. Parsons proves to be a bully who tries to size Lee up by provoking him into a fight, but Lee tricks him into getting on a launch tethered to the boat, which is pulled along at a distance.

    Arriving at the island, the participants see a large contingent of martial artists in training and find that Han otherwise keeps a substantial court with a variety of entertainment, including dancers, musicians, and sumo wrestlers. Roper expresses his appreciation for Han's lifestyle but shares with Williams that he feels they're being fattened up for the kill; while Williams doesn't find the cuisine appealing. Han makes his entrance to give a short speech and a demonstration of his accompanying ladies' dart-throwing skills.

    After the banquet, Han's secretary Tania (Ahna Capri) comes around to the men's rooms to offer them their choices of companionship from among her harem of girls. Williams picks several, apologizing that he's a bit tired from the day's activities; Roper picks Tania; and Lee expresses an interest in the dart-thrower whom he recognized as Mei Ling, who's sent to him and fills him in about how the girls mysteriously disappear.

    For the next morning's tournament opening, Lee eschews the required uniform in favor of his own attire; Williams takes down Parsons; and Roper bets on the action, which includes holding back in his own first fight to stack the odds for Williams's bet on him.

    Among the island's earlier visitors were a pair of Americans working for the Treasury Department.
    His escape is witnessed by Williams, who also slipped out to get in some moonlight exercises.
    He's actually a bit shorter than Lee, but he's built like Ferrigno!

    There's a brief flash toward the beginning of the clip above of Su Lin killing herself.
    Lee apparently breaks Oharra's spine by jumping onto his prone body with both feet. The painedd expression on Lee's face echoes how he'd earlier apologized over the graves of his mother and sister for what he intended to do.
    Han first refuses to allow Williams to leave the island...

    Williams: Bull-shit, Mr. Han-Man!​

    ...following which Han summons his guards...

    Williams: Man, you come right out of a comic book!​

    I was disappointed that we didn't get any of the three-man team action implied in the film's trailer. There's a cruel twist as the climactic portion of the fight occurs in the brothel, with some of the drugged-up girls whom Williams had previously enjoyed the company of laughing as Han beats him down and delivers the killing blow.

    A sequence in which Han goes overboard with the Bond villain schtick by stroking a white cat...though he adds his own angle of threatening to kill it with a guillotine to test Roper's ruthlessness. After Roper saves the cat, Han proceeds with his pitch, and Roper surmises that the whole tournament is a set-up to recruit new talent.
    Han shows Roper Williams's hanging body, which he then has dropped into his underground drink.

    Now in case you've forgotten that this is a Bruce Lee flick...
    ...getting back into the OUL after calmly bagging a cobra left on the concealed entrance; which he then uses to evacuate Han's radio room...

    This clip cuts in right after Lee implicitly kills a guard played by an uncredited Jackie Chan! Lee is eventually stymied by non-human opposition...being trapped in a small chamber by sliding metal doors.

    The finishing blow being a kick to the groin.
    Before anyone asks, it's unclear why Han has a dungeon packed with captive martial artists.

    In the general melee outside, Han had swapped out his rigid metal hand for a bear claw attachment, which he then lost in an initial skirmish with Lee. I have to wonder if this sequence with the second attachment, consisting of four long, straight metal claws, may have played any role in inspiring Wolverine...
    This is a particularly striking sequence, as much of the action is seen primarily via multiple reflections, rather than occurring directly in camera. A bit of wisdom that the abbot offered early in the film, about breaking the enemy by destroying the images and illusions that he hides behind, inspires Lee to shatter the mirrors. He ultimately kicks Han into a spear jutting through the chamber's rotating wall panel, which Han had thrust at Lee outside the chamber immediately following the clip above.
    It's also unclear how the girls died. Han did have some female guards (said to be his daughters), but the brothel girls shouldn't have been priority targets during the mass martial arts melee. Maybe they tried to join the fight.
    The end credits roll over a close-up of Han's bear claw attachment.

    The spy-fi elements did give this movie something extra over the next martial arts flick, going by my limited exposure. Lee also brings an enjoyable snarkiness as a lead action hero...there were several laugh-evoking moments of verbal sarcasm and nonverbal reactions/expressions throughout the film.
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  8. publiusr

    publiusr Admiral Admiral

    Mar 22, 2010
    I wonder if the 5-0 episodes may have been an influence for BeBop’s introduction to Faye….They used a car wreck sequence for explosions a lot.

    In Super Friends…Howard Small is likely based on Howard Hughes (?)…and TAS…that was the best episode.

    There was an animated EMERGENCY program that featured a car that had two engines (used to cheat in a race)—and an episode about a tornado…fitting now that it is 2024–for the Super Outbreak occurred 50 years ago this coming April.
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  9. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    That space station guy, plus a billion other things.

    Dr Boris Balinkoff, among a billion other things.

    An interesting and atypical little family drama. Must have been a backdoor pilot, like Happy Days. Probably would have made a good show.

    I never knew Doc Severinsen to work as an actor. Beth Howland was the ditzy girl in Alice.

    Now this was more like the LAS madness I go for. :rommie:

    Two musicians turned actor in one episode. Weird.

    Wow. :rommie:

    Another good one, with the added dimension of being a good-natured parody of Country music.

    Oh, yeah, Guy Lombardo. That triggers memories of going upstairs and downstairs during the show-- my Grandmother lived in the rooms on the first floor and I lived upstairs, so I would spend a few minutes with her periodically and then go back up to what I really wanted to watch. :rommie:

    This is getting good. I wonder if Netflix would be interested. :rommie:

    Probably not, but it hits the sweet spot of nostalgia for me.

    Patriotism is the opposite of conservative. In fact, patriotism is the opposite of Right Wing and Left Wing. :rommie: I also like the fact that it's written by a more-or-less objective outsider and not just somebody thumping his own chest. I would have preferred a better soundtrack, though....

    Well, I said wait'll next year, so I was pretty on target.

    He typed it all out, double spaced. With a " -30- " at the end. :D

    And a big Happy New Year to you too!

    Donny Osmond's not an icon? :(

    I'm intrigued from the start, although this one seems a bit different from Caine's.

    Very interesting. There was a similar aspect to Kung Fu: The Legend Continues. I can't remember if they ever resolved that particular plotline.

    Also very interesting. I knew next to nothing about this movie before reading your summary and there's a bunch of intriguing elements to it right off the bat.

    One thing all Shaolin temples have in common is teaching the art of the flashback. :rommie:

    I'm picturing the guy from Live and Let Die, but I'm sure I'll be disappointed. :rommie:

    The toll of war. :(

    Okay, that guy has a serious problem. But it would have been funny if Lee called him "Mantis" from then on.

    Nice. :rommie:

    We're definitely in the Bond-verse.

    Ouch. :(

    Comic book, Bond movie-- pretty cool, either way. :rommie:

    A cruel twist indeed-- not just the mockery, but a lonely, unseen, and unavenged death, unlike Lee's sister.

    A deliberate homage, maybe?

    That's pretty cool. Must be a nice memory for Jackie Chan.

    Anyone has been wondering that for a while. :rommie:

    Good point. I'll bet it did.

    Nice little Shaolin touch there.

    Or cause a distraction.

    This actually sounds great, on par with any of the best Bond films. I wonder if fictional Lee would have become an ongoing Bondian franchise character if real Lee had survived. I was also relived that John Saxon turned out to be an ally-- I was afraid he would turn on Lee in the climactic sequence.

    Howard Small versus Howard... Huge? :rommie:
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  10. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

    Nov 4, 2001
    AI Generated Madness
    This reminded me of a song from 1961 "Those Oldies But Goodies (Remind me of you)"
    Nostalgia for the 50s starting in the early 60s. :lol:
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  11. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    Good Evening - Happy New Year Everyone. I'd thought I would start out the New Year with a couple of performances from 'The Midnight Special', both taped back in December, but airing 25th-January-1974.

    First up - Genesis promoting with a pair of songs from the albums 'Foxtrot' and 'Nursery Cryme'.

    Here's 'The Musical Box' from 'Foxtrot'.

    Next is 'Watcher of the Skies' from 'Selling England by the Pound'.

    Then, from the same episode - Steve Miller with a pair of songs.

    First the title track from the album 'The Joker'.

    Finally, a song that Steve was performing in concert, but hadn't gotten around to recording - 'Fly Like An Eagle' from the album of the same name.

    Note the slightly different lyrics and arrangement and the 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' intro.
  12. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

    The Paper Chase
    Directed by James Bridges
    Starring Timothy Bottoms, Lindsay Wagner, and John Houseman
    Premiered September 7, 1973 (Atlanta International Film Festival)
    Released October 16, 1973
    1974 Academy Award for Best Actor in a Supporting Role (John Houseman)
    Nominated for Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium (James Bridges); Best Sound
    I first caught this on TV during my own college years and found myself captivated by it. The film is driven by Houseman's award-winning performance...which is actually his breakout role as an actor, having been a producer for most of his show business career up to this point.

    Kingsfield explains his use of the Socratic method.

    Before all of that develops, we cut from Hart coming to her door to the post-coital couple in bed, where James shares the following with Susan:
    Hart's first step toward his goal:

    Miss Farranti is played by Blair Brown. Hart exits the hall triumphantly afterward, semi-dancing down the campus to meet up with Susan. In a subsequent dorm shower scene that shows us way too deep below Edward Hermann's navel, cutting the frame just a hair above his junk, Anderson advises Hart against getting in a relationship while in law school. This is going to come back to haunt me when I'm watching old History Channel documentaries. Anyway, Hart quickly comes to see Anderson's point when he oversleeps with Susan and attends class unprepared. He further makes the mistake of announcing his finding to her afterward, initiating the above-described issues; and subsequently oversleeps again, missing a study group meeting.

    The entire class is invited, and it's on what we now refer to as Black Friday. Kevin brings his wife, Asheley (Regina Baff). And would you believe that closed captioning Xed out the first syllable of "cocktails"?
    Susan has just returned from Europe because her mother's in a mental institution (which isn't delved into any further, though it may be in the novel), and explains how she has issues seeing another of her father's students, as her ex was one who dropped out of law school. James becomes pleased with this development as it gives him an angle on Kingsfield that the professor doesn't know about.

    After another session with Susan, this time in Kingsfield's house, James is amused to walk around in Kingsfield's study--which is adorned with pictures of notable figures he's known, including FDR, Eisenhower, Hemingway, and Helen Keller--while in his underwear and drinking. Then he has to quickly slip out into the cold in his underwear when Kingsfield comes home unexpectedly early. Susan brings his clothes out and drives off with him, her father being aware that she was with a man but not who it was. James becomes paranoid at the next class when Kingsfield seems to make a point of questioning everyone around him, but not him.

    Meanwhile, Brooks's shortcomings become evident in class and Ford comes to his rescue by diverting Kingsfield from chewing him out over the worthlessness of his photographic memory. Brooks's need to lean on the others comes to cause tension in the study group. Hart accompanies him to see a confident student tutor named William Moss (Lenny Baker), which gives us the perspective of seeing better-adjusted upperclassmen.

    From 1927! Hart is amused to see that Kingsfield wrote notes with doodles in them like any other student, and finds insight into his thoughts, which he thinks gives him an advantage. He and Susan get back together, though tensions over his fixation with her father continue as she shows him the Harvard Stadium. (A striking element of the film not represented in the series of clips here are location-shot vignettes of downtime around the Harvard campus, which reflect the changing of seasons during the semester.) After she gets him to agree to a weekend getaway at the Cape, James shows off his knowledge of Kingsfield's old papers in class, which earns him an opportunity to do some extracurricular work...

    ...and Susan clearly isn't pleased when he has to break their plans. The extra work consumes Hart's weekend, he has to ask for more time to finish it, and Kingsfield informs him that he's gotten somebody else to do the work. Devastated, James tries to lean on Susan for support, and she breaks up with him again.

    O'Connor is the first one out. Next Bell--who's coldly insulting, outspokenly full of himself in a way that clearly masks esteem issues, and has the habit of referring to everyone on his bad side as "pimps"--is kicked out of the group by Ford. Brooks becomes increasingly concerned about needing the outlines of the students who've left the group. Hart visits the Brooks home to offer his support and learns that Asheley's pregnant, which doesn't alleviate the tension that's clearly affecting the couple. Kevin expresses his pessimism about his ability to pass and starts to break down from the pressure. As James is leaving, Asheley asks for his help in putting together a surprise birthday party for Kevin.

    Meanwhile, James has seen Susan with her husband, Philip (Bill Moher), who's back from Europe as they're pursuing the divorce, which her father is handling. Hart wanders the lecture hall by night, eyeing his own seat from Kingsfield's podium, and is caught by the janitor.

    Brooks is called upon in class and caught with his figurative pants down. James later realizes that he's forgotten Kevin's party and tries unsuccessfully to gather the gang at the last minute. He goes to the Brooks house to apologize and is met by Asheley holding a rifle by the barrel. She informs him that Kevin tried to commit suicide, and takes him to her husband, who doesn't want to talk to him.

    The delayed weekend at the Cape follows, with Susan trying to convince a disenchanted James that no matter how hard he tries, he'll never be allowed to be more than another student to her father. (The very idiotic closed captioning censor also Xes out the second syllable in "manipulating".)

    The Wiki summary doesn't mention an important beat in Hart's relationship with Kingsfield:

    the study group is down to three members, Kevin having dropped out while turning in a meager fragment of an outline.
    An amusing sequence. Note that the film's music is by John Williams.

    Exam day, with the final Hart/Kingsfield beat:

    Afterward, we see Kingsfield dispassionately grading Hart's exam, giving him a 93, A.
    She also informs James that her divorce is final.

    This one maybe resonated with me more when I first saw it, and kinda gives me college PTSD now, but it's still a pretty good watch. I don't know where the TV series took things, but I have to wonder if James and Susan stayed together, and if so, when did Kingsfield find out? "You'll remember my name now, Dad!"


    Possibly...I hadn't thought of that.

    Three--Diana Trask was also a real-life country singer.

    Good grandson.


    That does weigh in its favor.

    My holiday time off has certainly been better than it was last year...!

    If he is, it's not necessarily for something good...

    Well, it has been a century.

    It's worth checking out. I should note that I ended up buying this and American Graffiti on iTunes, after I realized that the purchase price was only a buck more than the rental price.


    You mean Sheriff Pepper?

    I'm sure that it motivated Roper's actions afterward...though Lee was the one who ultimately dealt with Williams's killer.

    He'd previously worked as an extra and stunt double in 1972's Fist of Fury.


    Though the piece of wisdom seemed shoehorned in just to be recalled in the climax.

    It's at least better than the weaker-tier Bond films.
    I was thinking along the same lines. It seems likely that they intended to bring back Roper as well.

    This caused me to further think about an element of the film that seemed a little forced to me. Curt, as Lucas's stand-in, is actively/outspokenly nostalgic about his own recent past--pining for high school and the old home town before he's had the opportunity to miss them. Some apprehension about leaving that life behind is understandable, but some of the beats play so heavy-handedly that one gets the impression that Curt is the time traveler, who's come back from the present of 1973 to remember the good ol' days.
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  13. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    The Paper Chase recently aired on MoviesTV Network and it sucked me in; but I didn't like it nor did I hate it. Not having gone to law school, I can't say if what I watched was an accurate description of college classes and exams.
    It was interesting to see a few familiar faces in early roles before they became famous. Edit to add: I just realized that the actor who played Toombs, the dorm monitor, played Windows in John Carpenter's The Thing.
    I can't remember if I caught an episode or two when it aired on CBS during its one and only season on network television, maybe as a lead in to another show my family would watch, or when it was rebroadcast on PBS, but I do remember John Houseman
    This movie, along with "Rollerball" (1975) staring James Caan, brought John Houseman back into the public eye.
    Interestingly enough, "You, Me and the Movies" on YouTube recently watched and reacted to the 1977 movie "Rollercoaster" (1977) with the late George Segal. Much to my surprise, Timothy Bottoms was the terrorist. He looked almost unrecognizable without his mustache and short hair.
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  14. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
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  15. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    Glam Theater Rock, or something. :D

    He's apparently better in the studio than he is live.

    I didn't know about his career as a producer, but he does have quite an onscreen presence.

    That's great. Kinda makes me want to debate him about something. :rommie:

    Maybe it was traumatized by the shower scene.

    Perhaps this was meant as a character insight for Kingsfield-- either to underscore his assholery or help explain it.

    This is definitely an insight into Kingsfield-- not so much that he knew these people, but that he adorns his study with pictures of them.

    Once he was a human being.... :rommie:

    What exactly does Susan do with her life? Clearly not follow in her father's footsteps.

    Damn. And we have no where-are-they-now epilogue to know what became of him.

    Perhaps it foresaw Lindsay's tee shirts in Bionic Woman.

    Nice. Reminds me of Patton. :rommie:

    Interesting. They could have easily explained themselves politely. Are they telling us that Kingsfield has created another couple of sons of bitches?

    I love it. :rommie: So the question is, are Kingsfield's students really complete non-entities to him, or is he really a son of a bitch? And if so, is it in the service of unrelentingly preparing them for the harsh realities ahead?

    I vaguely remember watching it a few times, which is where I get my knowledge of John Houseman's screen presence, but I have no clear memories of it.

    Ah, I don't know her.

    In retrospect, perhaps not so bad. :rommie:

    Hopefully the year will continue in that vein.



    I'm thinking of getting Enter The Dragon, and maybe both films, with my Christmas gift cards.

    Yep, my least favorite part of Live and Let Die-- not to mention Man With the Golden Gun.

    I wonder how well they knew each other.

    Still pretty good for a film of this type.

    It's a real tragedy that he died so young.

    The timeline is so messed up at this point that it makes me want to become a time traveler so that I can make things even worse.
  16. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    That's where I recorded it from.
    I read that there were some critiques of Kingsfield's teaching methods from actual law professors.

    The above-posted gig was my primary exposure to Houseman...apparently he did that series of commercials until late in his life (d. 1988). When I caught The Paper Chase in the '90s, I learned what he was famous for. I'd heard of the TV series, but didn't know anything about it.

    Or he could teach you how to roll your Rs.

    Could be...I mean, if I posted a screen cap, I could get us in trouble with our Google overlords.

    I'd tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's just likeable and admirable enough a character...a magnificent asshole.

    At least some of them were signed with messages, and one looked like it was supposed to be a picture of him with whichever figure (though I couldn't see it too well). If FDR gives you signed photo, you'd better damn well hang it on your wall!

    That is a very good question, and possibly another thing that the novel went into more detail about. She was living in the neighborhood of the campus, and her husband was said to have been backpacking in Europe, so she probably didn't stand to gain much in the divorce. I imagine that her father was supporting her at least for the time being, though she may have had a job, possibly at the school.

    Part of what was pressuring him were expectations for his future...Asheley's father had a job lined up for him when he got out of law school.

    Refresh my memory, which part?

    Yeah, I can't think that the hotel staff would have been that upset over seeing paper strewn all over, provided the students agreed to clean it up before they left.

    There was a line from Susan that was confirmed by this scene...about how her father would never allow himself to become close to a student. I get the impression that he was deliberately maintaining boundaries; though it's possible he might be someone who's so compartmentalized that he doesn't recognize somebody outside of the context in which he's used to seeing them. I think we were meant to wonder.

    Nor did I, but I looked her up when she started singing. You could tell that it was her day job.


    He was more likeable than the two in EtD.

    In terms of how it plugged into the spy fi formula, remembering that nugget of wisdom was roughly the equivalent of Bond whipping out a gadget that we last saw being introduced by Q.
  17. DarrenTR1970

    DarrenTR1970 Commodore Commodore

    Aug 1, 2015
    Bothell, WA
    If I really had to think about it - I think my first real exposure to Houseman was his recurring role as Ricky Schroder's grandfather on 'Silver Spoons'.

    While we're on the subject - Here's John Houseman's last film appearance.

    I was there opening night and you should have heard the cheer that came up from the audience when Houseman appeared.
  18. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    I can imagine. :rommie:

    That would at least make me sound smarter.

    I'll take your word for it on that one. :rommie:

    Indeed. And a Darwinian mechanism.

    I'd also have a tee shirt made, but Kingsfield's not quite the tee shirt type.

    The part where Patton says to the sleepy soldier, "Go back to sleep-- you're the only one around here who knows what the hell he's doing."

    At first I thought the joke would be about the staff thinking they were Gay, but then they were just obnoxious. Which was not only unnecessary, but also compromised precious studying time.

    Definitely open to interpretation. My take is that he knew very well who he was talking to. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that brain held the name of every student he ever had. :rommie:

    Bloody Hell, now I'm afraid to watch it. :rommie:

    I kind of like that parallel.

    "Extend your middle finger." :rommie: He really doesn't look much different fifteen years later.

    Very nice.
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  19. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    That also rings a bell from my limited exposure to the show.

    I saw that, but didn't remember that he was in it. The middle finger part did ring a bell.

    It was released soon after his death.

    What, you don't want me to send a cap via PM? That'd probably be permissible, so long as you didn't report me.

    I'd love to see him in a Stones tongue logo T-shirt.

    Heh...I don't even remember that part.

    The maid reported them because she seemed to think they were plotting a murder.

    OTOH, he was pretty dependent on his seating chart, complete with headshots of the students.

    Pepper was a broad comic relief character. These guys were seriously threatening.

    ETA: I was just watching the second episode of Gold Monkey. The war-related anachronisms come hot and heavy in this one. Jake and Corky serving in the Flying Tigers is referenced, and the episode opens with Jake having a fever dream of the two of them in a P-40 Warhawk being pursued by Zekes, a.k.a. Zeroes. The P-40 was what the Tigers flew, but it was only entering service in '38; and as previously mentioned, the Zero went into service in '40, and the Flying Tigers squadron didn't start being put together until '41. Jake and Corky are also said to have met in '35 (implicitly in the Tigers), and there's a reference to them having still been flying in "the war" the previous December. I think the former, and definitely the latter, contradict dates dropped in the pilot episode that indicated they'd been running the Goose for years.

    Song continuity is better--Sarah sings "The Lady Is a Tramp," which is from '37.

    The fighter footage definitely looks like it was reused from Black Sheep...I think that show's pilot episode had Pappy evading Zeroes in a P-40, but I'd have to check.

    Just gonna leave this here...
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  20. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    No, no! That's okay! I wouldn't want you to risk losing your Moderator position!

    Now there's a job for Generative AI. :rommie:

    One of my favorite scenes:


    Good point. I didn't think of that.

    I'm sure I could come up with a justification, and build a story around it, if I studied up on the Tigers, but I'd love to know how this came to be, especially if the writers referenced "the war."

    Special effects have certainly changed in forty years. :rommie:
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