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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

With This Ring," The Platters

In the many years I’v loved this song, I never knew it was performed by Platters. I thought they were long gone by ‘67.

Also interesting that the song charted higher pop than r&b. But it is quite popish in sound. Song swings hard and so different from their first hits.

This sent me to Wiki to check the group’s bio. They were EXTREMELY successful. They had 40 charting recordings in just a little over 10 years. That’s amazing. They were also very well taken care of financially, which was not always the case for artists back then, especially Black artists. They even won a court battle for their name. Inducted to the R&at HoF in 1990. Crazy.

That a Black doo wop group could have hits spanning the mid ‘50’s to the psychedelic era is remarkable.
 
The prosecutor admitted that the state had no other evidence against Suarez
After this ruling, conventional law enforcement was forced to gather compelling evidence against suspects-- except for Lieutenant Columbo.

Born: Kurt Cobain, American musician and artist, leader of the band Nirvana; in Aberdeen, Washington (died 1994)
My Brother loved his work.

The Chinese government announces that it has ordered the army to help in the spring seeding.
Sadly, the tanks did more harm than good.

"With This Ring," The Platters
Sounds nice, but not much to it.

"Jimmy Mack," Martha & The Vandellas
Nice, catchy Oldie. I haven't heard it on the radio in ages.

"Dedicated to the One I Love," The Mamas & The Papas
This is very nice.

"Penny Lane," The Beatles
"Strawberry Fields Forever," The Beatles
Both examples of how amazingly innovative these guys were, both lyrically and musically.

"Massachusetts" is your favorite Bee Gees song? What the others in your top 5 (if you have a top 5)? And what do you consider their worst songs?
I don't know if I ever specifically thought about it, but "Words" and "Holiday" spring immediately to mind. Then probably "New York Mining Disaster" and "To Love Somebody." I like most of their 60s-era work. Their worst is the Disco-era stuff, although I've mellowed on "Stayin' Alive" and "Night Fever."

Check his location.
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50 Years Ago This Week

February 20
  • In the United States sixty million people tuned in to watch live television coverage of President Nixon's Monday morning arrival in Communist China, starting at 9:30 pm Eastern time (0230 on February 21 UTC) and 10:30 in the morning February 21 in Beijing. The three networks (ABC, CBS and NBC) split the cost of $8,300 per hour for satellite broadcasting during the eight-day visit, and each sent eleven persons on the trip.
  • What one author would describe as "the best live performance" of The Dark Side of the Moon by British progressive rock band Pink Floyd took place one year before the best-selling album was released.
  • Died: Walter Winchell, American journalist (b. 1897)

February 21 – At 11:30 a.m. local time (0330 UTC) in Peking (now Beijing), Richard M. Nixon became the first President of the United States to visit the People's Republic of China, ending more than 22 years of hostility between the two nations. Nixon greeted China's Prime Minister Zhou Enlai with one of the most famous handshakes in history. "When our hands met", Nixon would write later, "one era ended and another began", while Zhou told Nixon on their trip from the airport, "Your handshake came over the vastest ocean in the world – twenty-five years of no communication."

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February 22
  • In retaliation for the killing of 13 Irish civilians by the British army on "Bloody Sunday", the Irish Republican Army exploded a car bomb outside of a mess hall reserved for officers at the Aldershot, England, headquarters of the 16th Parachute Brigade. Seven people were killed by the IRA bomb, and none of them were soldiers. Killed in the blast were an Army chaplain and six waitresses.
  • Lufthansa Flight 649 is hijacked and taken to Aden. Passengers are released the following day after a ransom of 5 million US dollars is agreed.

February 23
  • US activist Angela Davis is released from jail. Rodger McAfee, a farmer from Caruthers, California, helps her make bail.
  • The Environmental Protection Agency published its first regulations requiring unleaded gasoline to be made available at all gas stations.

February 25 – First UK release of Wings' "Give Ireland Back to the Irish" single.

February 26
  • A coal sludge spill kills 125 people in Buffalo Creek, West Virginia.
  • Luna 20 comes back to Earth with 55 grams (1.94 oz) of lunar soil.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "Without You," Nilsson
2. "Hurting Each Other," Carpenters
3. "Precious and Few," Climax
4. "Let's Stay Together," Al Green
5. "Down by the Lazy River," The Osmonds
6. "Joy," Apollo feat. Tom Parker
7. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," Robert John
8. "Everything I Own," Bread
9. "American Pie," Don McLean
10. "Sweet Seasons," Carole King
11. "Never Been to Spain," Three Dog Night
12. "The Way of Love," Cher
13. "Heart of Gold," Neil Young
14. "Bang a Gong (Get It On)," T. Rex
15. "Don't Say You Don't Remember," Beverly Bremers
16. "My World," Bee Gees
17. "Day After Day," Badfinger
18. "Floy Joy," The Supremes
19. "Anticipation," Carly Simon
20. "Stay with Me," Faces
21. "Black Dog," Led Zeppelin
22. "Jungle Fever," The Chakachas

24. "Brand New Key," Melanie
25. "Ain't Understanding Mellow," Jerry Butler & Brenda Lee Eager
26. "Clean Up Woman," Betty Wright
27. "Mother and Child Reunion," Paul Simon
28. "Fire and Water," Wilson Pickett
29. "Footstompin' Music," Grand Funk Railroad

31. "I Gotcha," Joe Tex
32. "Rock and Roll Lullaby," B. J. Thomas

35. "Runnin' Away," Sly & The Family Stone

37. "Feeling Alright," Joe Cocker
38. "Talking Loud and Saying Nothing, Part 1," James Brown

41. "Sunshine," Jonathan Edwards

47. "A Horse with No Name," America
48. "Roundabout," Yes

60. "Puppy Love," Donny Osmond
61. "Iron Man," Black Sabbath

63. "Taurus," Dennis Coffey & The Detroit Guitar Band
64. "In the Rain," The Dramatics
65. "Slippin' into Darkness," War
66. "Diamonds Are Forever," Shirley Bassey

69. "Do Your Thing," Isaac Hayes

78. "A Cowboy's Work Is Never Done," Sonny & Cher
79. "Betcha By Golly, Wow," The Stylistics

88. "Nice to Be with You," Gallery


Leaving the chart:
  • "Drowning in the Sea of Love," Joe Simon (13 weeks)
  • "Levon," Elton John (10 weeks)
  • "Make Me the Woman That You Go Home To," Gladys Knight & the Pips (10 weeks)
  • "Scorpio," Dennis Coffey & The Detroit Guitar Band (17 weeks)
  • "You Are Everything," The Stylistics (16 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"In the Rain," The Dramatics
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(#5 US; #1 R&B)

"Nice to Be with You," Gallery
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(#4 US; #5 AC)

"Betcha By Golly, Wow," The Stylistics
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(#3 US; #7 AC; #2 R&B; #13 UK)

"Puppy Love," Donny Osmond
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(#3 US; #1 UK)


And new on the boob tube:
  • Kung Fu: The Way of the Tiger, The Sign of the Dragon
  • Hawaii Five-O, "Didn't We Meet at a Murder?"
  • Adam-12, "Backup 1L-20"
  • The Odd Couple, "Oscar's Promotion"
  • Love, American Style, "Love and the Television Set / Love and the Newscasters" (season finale)
  • All in the Family, "Edith the Judge"
  • The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "Some of My Best Friends Are Rhoda"
  • Emergency!, "Dealer's Wild"
  • Mission: Impossible, "Trapped" (season finale)

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Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki pages for the month or year and Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day, with minor editing as needed.

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In the many years I’v loved this song, I never knew it was performed by Platters. I thought they were long gone by ‘67.

Also interesting that the song charted higher pop than r&b. But it is quite popish in sound. Song swings hard and so different from their first hits.

This sent me to Wiki to check the group’s bio. They were EXTREMELY successful. They had 40 charting recordings in just a little over 10 years. That’s amazing. They were also very well taken care of financially, which was not always the case for artists back then, especially Black artists. They even won a court battle for their name. Inducted to the R&at HoF in 1990. Crazy.

That a Black doo wop group could have hits spanning the mid ‘50’s to the psychedelic era is remarkable.
I'm not clear from the Wiki article, though, how many of the late-'50s lineup were still in the group by 1966.

Sounds nice, but not much to it.
Infectiously upbeat.

Nice, catchy Oldie. I haven't heard it on the radio in ages.
Oldies radio classic.

This is very nice.
The Mamas & the Papas cover the Shirelles, with video from Sullivan in that clip from their YouTube account, but it sounds like the single audio.

Both examples of how amazingly innovative these guys were, both lyrically and musically.
While technically not treated as one on the US charts at the time, I'd consider this to be the definitive double A-sided single. And we get our first look at / listen to the Pepper-era Fabs. See how American youth of the time reacted, with some Monkee business first.
 
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They were a clean-cut, wholesome-looking bunch, weren't they?

I should have noted that in the UK, "Strawberry Fields Forever" / "Penny Lane" was infamously locked out of the top spot by Engelbert Humperdinck's "Release Me".

Also, I'd say that "Strawberry Fields" makes the short list of definitive John songs.
 
I'll play along - My top five Bee Gee's songs are (in no particular order) - 'Suddenly', 'I.O.I.O', 'Saw A New Morning', 'You Should Be Dancing', 'He's A Lair', 'This Is Where I Came In'.

Interesting. I recall a time when the general public was so brainwashed/soured to the Bee Gees' late 70s work (as if that was the essence of the group) that many would assume a person saying they had favorite Bee Gees songs meant anything from 1977-forward.
 
Interesting. I recall a time when the general public was so brainwashed/soured to the Bee Gees' late 70s work (as if that was the essence of the group) that many would assume a person saying they had favorite Bee Gees songs meant anything from 1977-forward.

My first exposure to the Bee Gees was the movie and soundtrack 'Saturday Night Fever' back when it first came out in '77 (my first 'R'-rated movie at the age of seven); so, yes I knew of their disco sound before anything else.

Then my mom purchased the 'Tales from the Brothers Gibb' box set in 1990, which exposed me to their wider musical output; followed by Rhino records releasing comprehensive box sets of their first four albums.

I'm really pissed at Rhino, they had plans to do box sets of most of their albums along with a proper release of 'A Kick In The Head Is Worth Eight In The Pants', plus Barry's unreleased debut solo album, 'The Kid's No Good' and Maurice's unreleased solo album 'The Loner',
but the project stalled after 'Odessa' and they let the rights to the albums lapse and they were snatched up by another label.

(As an aside, Barry, Robin, Vince Melourney and Colin Petersen all contributed to the liner notes of the first three album's box sets, but with 'Odessa' it's just an essay by a rock critic; so, I'm wondering if something happened between Rhino and the two surviving Gibb brothers that lead to their withdrawing support for further reissues.)
 
Richard M. Nixon became the first President of the United States to visit the People's Republic of China
Nixon goes to China. China sends him back.

Luna 20 comes back to Earth with 55 grams (1.94 oz) of lunar soil.
Makes it sound like drug smuggling. :rommie:

"In the Rain," The Dramatics
I don't think I remember this one, but then it's not very memorable.

"Nice to Be with You," Gallery
This is a good one. Very cheerful. It also used to be a staple of Oldies radio, but I haven't heard it in ages.

"Betcha By Golly, Wow," The Stylistics
I like this. The Stylistics gave us a bunch of good stuff.

"Puppy Love," Donny Osmond
I want to hit him with a rolled-up newspaper.

While technically not treated as one on the US charts at the time, I'd consider this to be the definitive double A-sided single. And we get our first look at / listen to the Pepper-era Fabs. See how American youth of the time reacted, with some Monkee business first.
"I'm sorry, sir, I don't like The Beatles. They look like grandfathers. With mustaches."
 
Nixon goes to China. China sends him back.
Now, this was the high point of Nixon's checkered presidency, and a definitive moment of the decade. Let's give the guy credit where credit is due.

Makes it sound like drug smuggling. :rommie:
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I don't think I remember this one, but then it's not very memorable.
Yeah.

This is a good one. Very cheerful. It also used to be a staple of Oldies radio, but I haven't heard it in ages.
Minor, lightweight oldies radio staple.

I like this. The Stylistics gave us a bunch of good stuff.
Yeah, I wasn't overly familiar with this one, but it sounds great.

I want to hit him with a rolled-up newspaper.
I am so happy that I didn't let ol' hobbie drag me down into the Osmonds quagmire... :ack:

"I'm sorry, sir, I don't like The Beatles. They look like grandfathers. With mustaches."
When you highlight it, they sound kinda like Millennials, don't they...? :p
 
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I watched the American Bandstand clip and, as Dick Clark pointed out, The Beatles had been out of pretty much out of the public eye since their final performance at Candlestick Park on August 29, 1966. John was off filming 'How I Won The War,' and Paul was with Jane Asher exploring the underground music scene. They didn't get back into the recording studio until November 24, the last recording session being June 21, six months previously; which was a long time back in those days where you were expected to be cranking out records/singles every few months. As a comparison, The Beach Boys released twelve albums and twenty singles between 1962 and 1966 and Brian was hard at work on 'SMiLE'. There was a lot of talk in the press at that time about The Beatles breaking up and who the next big group would be.

It's also worth noting that the clip is dated 11 March 1967, just three/four months before 'The Summer Of Love' and the beginning of the Hippie movement and the protests against the war in Vietnam, yet everyone in that clip is 'short back and sides' with suit and a necktie or a nice dress.
 
I watched the American Bandstand clip and, as Dick Clark pointed out, The Beatles had been out of pretty much out of the public eye since their final performance at Candlestick Park on August 29, 1966. John was off filming 'How I Won The War,' and Paul was with Jane Asher exploring the underground music scene. They didn't get back into the recording studio until November 24, the last recording session being June 21, six months previously; which was a long time back in those days where you were expected to be cranking out records/singles every
few months. As a comparison, The Beach Boys released twelve albums and twenty singles between 1962 and 1966 and Brian was hard at work on 'SMiLE'. There was a lot of talk in the press at that time about The Beatles breaking up and who the next big group would be.

I haven’t counted up the number of albums the Beatles released from like ‘62 or ‘63 through mid ‘66, but I can’t imagine them being too far from the number released by The Beach Boys during the same period. .

Yes, I can imagine some in the pop music press may have immediately begun speculating about the band’s demise after the announcement that they would stop touring, which was unprecedented at the time because they were still hot and still the biggest musical act in pop music history. , but I don’t recall that type of speculation among fans.

I recall being disappointed and also, skeptical, but never that it was a sign they were breaking up. The mainstream press had been
obsessed from their debut in the US, with what happens when “the bubble bursts,” so even though I don’t remember it being much of a thing, I’m not at all surprised to hear that some writers speculated about a break up.
 
Now, this was the high point of Nixon's checkered presidency, and a definitive moment of the decade. Let's give the guy credit where credit is due.

I have a good friend who was born and raised in China. She immigrated to the US in the ‘80’s and became a citizen. Politically, she is quite progressive and regularly criticizes the Chinese regime. But she still speaks warmly of Nixon. She is well aware of his crimes and how he left office, but she still has a soft spot for him.


She told me that many Chinese who were of age back then feel the same way she does about Nixon. He is credited by many Chinese as being the guy who opened China to the world.

I always look at her like she’s crazy when she starts this talk, but she understands. I had to tell her to stop sending me pics of the Nixon Libtary when she visited there this past December. .

Considering that her favorite American historical figures are MLK and Lincoln, you’d think she’d have kicked Nixon to the curb years ago, but nope.
 
Now, this was the high point of Nixon's checkered presidency, and a definitive moment of the decade. Let's give the guy credit where credit is due.
Oh, I give him credit for that, along with other stuff like the EPA. I also give him credit for resigning. When it came down to it, he put the country first, which is a quaint notion in the 21st century.

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When you highlight it, they sound kinda like Millennials, don't they...? :p
Too polite for Millennials. :rommie:
 
50th Anniversary Album Spotlight

There's a Riot Goin' On
Sly & The Family Stone
Released November 1, 1971
Chart debut: November 13, 1971
Chart peak: #1 (December 18 and 25, 1971)
#99 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2003)
Wiki said:
There's a Riot Goin' On (sometimes referred to as Riot) is the fifth studio album by American funk and soul band Sly and the Family Stone. It was recorded from 1970 to 1971 at Record Plant Studios in Sausalito, California and released later that year on November 1 by Epic Records. The recording was dominated by band frontman Sly Stone during a period of elevated drug use and intra-group tension.

For the album, Sly and the Family Stone departed from the optimistic psychedelic soul of their previous music and explored a darker, more challenging sound, employing edgy funk rhythms, primitive drum machines, extensive overdubbing, and a dense mix. Conceptually and lyrically, There's a Riot Goin' On embraced apathy, pessimism, and disillusionment with both Stone's fame and 1960s counterculture amid a turbulent political climate in the United States at the turn of the 1970s, influenced by the decline of the civil rights movement and the rise of the Black Power movement. The album's title was originally planned to be Africa Talks to You, but it changed in response to Marvin Gaye's album What's Going On (1971), released six months before Riot.


This turned out to be one of those albums that I struggled to find the goodness in, but just couldn't get into. It opens with the mellow funk of "Luv N' Haight," which features simple, repeating lyrics about staying in bed--where Sly partly recorded the album--and getting high:
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Wiki said:
"Luv n' Haight" is satirically titled as a reference to the Haight-Ashbury scene, while the music and lyrics express disillusionment with the 1960s counterculture.
Songs such as "Luv 'n Haight", "Thank You for Talking to Me Africa", and "Spaced Cowboy" are characterized by edgier, unrelenting grooves with rhythmic sounds resembling murmuring noises.


While thematically appropriate in expressing where the artist was at, "Just Like a Baby" makes less of an impression.

"Poet" features simple lyrics, but expresses a good sentiment: "My only weapon is my pen".

The album's leading single, "Family Affair" (charted Nov. 6, 1971; #1 US the weeks of Dec. 4 through 18, 1971; #1 R&B; #15 UK; #138 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time [2004]; #57 on the 2021 list), was the first new material released by Sly & the Family in nearly two years, since the "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)"/ "Everybody Is a Star" single. It was also the group's final chart-topper, and features Billy Preston on electronic piano.
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Side one climaxes with the album's longest track, "Africa Talks to You ('The Asphalt Jungle')," which Wiki describes as "a nine-minute funk jam written in response to the backlash Sly Stone received from estranged fans and friends, record industry associates, and the media."

The album label listed the running time of title track and side one closer "There's a Riot Goin' On," as 0:00...though digital media tell us that it's actually four seconds of silence. Regarding its content, Sly is quoted as having said, “I felt there should be no riots.”

Side two opens with the relatively upbeat "Brave & Strong," which contains echoes of Sly's earlier work despite its murky mix.

As songs on this album go, "(You Caught Me) Smilin'" has a pleasant, catchy '70s sound that no doubt helped it to be selected as a single (charts Apr. 22, 1972; #42 US; #21 R&B):
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By comparison to the immediately preceding tracks, "Time" seems rather lethargic.

A more obviously titled drug song on an album full of drug-fueled songs, "Spaced Cowboy" is characterized by Sly's country-style yodeling.

"Runnin' Away" was another obvious single choice by this album's standards (charted Feb. 5, 1972; #23 US; #26 AC; #15 R&B; #17 UK):
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The album closes with its second-longest track, "Thank You for Talkin' to Me Africa," which is a slower version of the band's previous chart-topper, "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)":
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A commercial success, There's a Riot Goin' On topped the Billboard Pop Album and Soul Album charts, while its lead single "Family Affair" reached number-one on the Pop Singles chart. The album was eventually certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for sales of at least one million copies in the US.
There's a Riot Goin' On was met with a divided reaction from fans and music critics, who were not used to the album's production and lyrical content.
The album has since been praised as one of the greatest and most influential recordings of all time, having impacted the funk, jazz-funk, and hip hop genres in particular. It ranks frequently and highly in many publications' best-album lists, including Rolling Stone's "500 Greatest Albums of All Time", on which it placed 99th in 2003 and 82nd in 2020.

Although the album was coming from a dark place, I didn't find it nearly as overtly dark as some critics have reportedly described it; but I didn't find much to enjoy about it either.

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I have a good friend who was born and raised in China. She immigrated to the US in the ‘80’s and became a citizen. Politically, she is quite progressive and regularly criticizes the Chinese regime. But she still speaks warmly of Nixon. She is well aware of his crimes and how he left office, but she still has a soft spot for him.


She told me that many Chinese who were of age back then feel the same way she does about Nixon. He is credited by many Chinese as being the guy who opened China to the world.

I always look at her like she’s crazy when she starts this talk, but she understands. I had to tell her to stop sending me pics of the Nixon Libtary when she visited there this past December. .

Considering that her favorite American historical figures are MLK and Lincoln, you’d think she’d have kicked Nixon to the curb years ago, but nope.
That's a welcomely different perspective.

I was intrigued to read about how Nixon, after decades of being political Kryptonite to fellow Republicans, offered foreign policy advice to a readily receptive Bill Clinton.

Oh, I give him credit for that, along with other stuff like the EPA. I also give him credit for resigning. When it came down to it, he put the country first, which is a quaint notion in the 21st century.
Indeed...as much as he tarnished the presidency, he went down presidentially.
 
'There's A Riot Goin' On'. My local library has a copy and I check it out occasionally. I want to like it, but it's a struggle to get through. There's some good ideas there, but, unfortunately, it's buried under a drug induced haze; and with little to no involvement from the other Family Stone, it lacks the "fullness" of the previous albums.

At the same time, it needs to be listened to as a complete whole and not as a series of individual tracks.

While 'Family Affair' was a deserved hit, and probably the most "commercial" of the tracks on the album; it wasn't a reflection of the rest of the material, and the record buying public was probably turned off by the rest of the album.

Which more than likely lead to the decline in sales on subsequent albums, even through there was something of a return to form.
 
This turned out to be one of those albums that I struggled to find the goodness in
Sure does sound like the 70s, though.

"Poet" features simple lyrics, but expresses a good sentiment: "My only weapon is my pen".
That's a nice little ditty.

The album's leading single, "Family Affair"
I actually never cared much for this, and not just because of the title. :rommie:

The album label listed the running time of title track and side one closer "There's a Riot Goin' On," as 0:00...though digital media tell us that it's actually four seconds of silence. Regarding its content, Sly is quoted as having said, “I felt there should be no riots.”
That's a nice artistic touch, although he probably should have made it a bit longer-- like a moment of silence kind of thing. But it cracks me up that it's on YouTube.

By comparison to the immediately preceding tracks, "Time" seems rather lethargic.
But it's one of the more finished-sounding songs on the album.

A more obviously titled drug song on an album full of drug-fueled songs, "Spaced Cowboy" is characterized by Sly's country-style yodeling.
That's hilarious.

"Runnin' Away" was another obvious single choice by this album's standards
This is my favorite song on the album.

The album closes with its second-longest track, "Thank You for Talkin' to Me Africa," which is a slower version of the band's previous chart-topper, "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)":
Possibly the weirdest sequel song ever.

I was intrigued to read about how Nixon, after decades of being political Kryptonite to fellow Republicans, offered foreign policy advice to a readily receptive Bill Clinton.
He was crazy, but he wasn't stupid.

There's some good ideas there, but, unfortunately, it's buried under a drug induced haze
That's how it sounded to me: Good ideas, but unfinished.
 
Gary Brooker of Procul Harum died this morning after a private battle with cancer. Gonna spin some music tonight.
Also, F*ck Jann Werner for having a bias against certain types of music. Procul Harum should have been in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame long ago.
 
There's a Riot Goin' On
Sly & The Family Stone
Released November 1, 1971
Chart debut: November 13, 1971
Chart peak: #1 (December 18 and 25, 1971)
#99 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2003)

I think I’v gone on record here about what a disappointment this album was to me. I was a huge Sly fan up to this album%’s release and had been waiting eems like forever, and this is what we got.

Musically, the songs lacked the spontaneity, edginess, and near chaotic tone of previous records. But, to me, the most egregious error was that the album wasn’t funky. Gone were the polyrhythms that made Sly songs seem unpredictable and outside the norm. You could tell almost immediately that Greg Errico and Larry Graham were missing. The album also had a real murky insular sound that I hated, plus they used a “funk box,” (I think that’s what it was called). Took the edge off the sound and made it sound fuzzy. Funk is supposed to sound sharp.

It was shocking to me that this album was both a critical and commercial success. Rolling Stone’s review raved about it. Seemed like ALL my friends owned Riot. I could never figure out why. I chalked it up to just bad taste. :lol:

Yeah, this album was the death knell of a once great band. Sly’s ego and drug use finished them.
 
While 'Family Affair' was a deserved hit, and probably the most "commercial" of the tracks on the album; it wasn't a reflection of the rest of the material
I'm not even seeing the appeal there; there were more commercial sounding tracks to my ear on the album, though not up to their previous standards. "Family Affair" doesn't strike me as chart-topping single material, but it topped the charts nevertheless.

Sure does sound like the 70s, though.
That's a nice little ditty.
But it's one of the more finished-sounding songs on the album.
That's hilarious.
That's how it sounded to me: Good ideas, but unfinished.
Oddly, you seem to have gotten more out of this one than the rest of us for a change.

That's a nice artistic touch, although he probably should have made it a bit longer-- like a moment of silence kind of thing. But it cracks me up that it's on YouTube.
See also the "Nutopian International Anthem" on John Lennon's 1973 album Mind Games.

This is my favorite song on the album.
Is that relatively speaking? I seem to recall a negative comment when this recently came up as a single.

I think I’v gone on record here about what a disappointment this album was to me. I was a huge Sly fan up to this album%’s release and had been waiting eems like forever, and this is what we got.

Musically, the songs lacked the spontaneity, edginess, and near chaotic tone of previous records. But, to me, the most egregious error was that the album wasn’t funky. Gone were the polyrhythms that made Sly songs seem unpredictable and outside the norm. You could tell almost immediately that Greg Errico and Larry Graham were missing. The album also had a real murky insular sound that I hated, plus they used a “funk box,” (I think that’s what it was called). Took the edge off the sound and made it sound fuzzy. Funk is supposed to sound sharp.

It was shocking to me that this album was both a critical and commercial success. Rolling Stone’s review raved about it. Seemed like ALL my friends owned Riot. I could never figure out why. I chalked it up to just bad taste. :lol:

Yeah, this album was the death knell of a once great band. Sly’s ego and drug use finished them.
I'm with you on this...you put your finger on what I didn't like about it, and I'm also mystified by the album's reputation. I knew going in that it would be different, but struggled and failed to find the greatness in it.
 
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