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The cardassian union in discovery?

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I would like to see Cardassians they are very interesting, This is the time of the first republic where art and writing flourished. Is the time of the great author Iloja of Prim.

It would be very interesting to see what the relationship between the Cardassian union and the federation was at that time
 
The only spinoff series enemy I care to see in Discovery, would be the Borg.

Is the time of the great author Iloja of Prim.

No. 22nd century. Closer to the time of Enterprise.
 
I know there is a line somewhere in Deep Space Nine about a Cardassian poet living on Vulcan in the 22nd century.

Maybe, @Christopher (author Christopher Bennett) can make an appearance and clarify the line. His Enterprise novels feature both the poet and Tobin Dax on 22nd century Vulcan.
 
I just looked up the line in the episode Destiny, and curiously enough they only mention Tobin Dax knowing the Cardassian poet during his exile on Vulcan, with no time mentioned. It's curious, everyone always says 22nd century, I've even been in arguments where that fact was used against me, and the Enterprise novels do feature both characters. So where did this idea come from?
 
Iloja of Prim was a Cardassian serialist poet who lived during the First Republic of the 23rd century. Jadzia Dax regarded Iloja of Prim as her favorite Cardassian author. One of her symbiont's previous hosts, Tobin Dax, met Iloja when he was in exile on Vulcan. He noted that Iloja had "quite a temper". (DS9: "Destiny")

Iloja of Prim's exact time period has not been established. He had to have been exiled sometime after 2226, when Lela Dax died and Tobin Dax was joined with the Dax symbiont, and before 2245 by which time Emony Dax carried the symbiont. As both were on Vulcan during this time period this indicates that both Trill and Cardassians were known to the Federation before 2245.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Iloja_of_Prim
 
If the Cardassians have nothing to do with the story they're telling, then they'll probably not be in it. Expect lots of Klingons instead.
 
Meh. Other than Garak, Cardies are pretty bland. And he only was only interesting because of the actor and dialog. There wasn't anything inherently special or compelling about the character.
 


A Mirror for Humanity: Why Cardassians are Star Trek's Best Alien Race

http://www.treknews.net/2015/04/10/why-the-cardassians-are-treks-best-alien-race/
Interesting article I came across a while back.

I want there to be a story in Discovery in which we see the Cardassians before they became authoritarian - the time when they still suffered famines - and we could maybe see why they chose that bad route, as a way of relieving their perceived weakness on the galactic stage - it could be an epic story. It won't happen though, I don't think. Imagine Discovery coming across a bunch of working class Cardassian labourers stranded on a small freighter, and they have to take these pre-Central Command civilians back to a Cardassia which was once a great civilization, but now suffers regular famines and is preyed upon by Breen and Orion mercinaries.
 
Damar was an interesting character

Indeed, Damar, Garak, Tain and Gul Dukat are all very strong characterizations:

Initially only introduced as a tertiary character and one that was little more than a background henchman for Dukat, the character of Damar eventually became the embodiment of the entire Cardassian people. As the ultimate archetype of a true patriot, he believed that everything done in the name of Cardassia was worth doing and he personally relished in the brutal excesses and military conquests of the State. But only near the end, when he realized what a terrible cost such an attitude inflicted, both on his people and to him personally, Damar became the catalyst for the Cardassians to openly rebel against the Dominion. In doing so, he helped his people break free from the centuries-long cycle of aggression that had finally brought their society to ruin. And much like the symbols of our own history who became martyrs in defense of a greater ideal, Damar’s death in defense of the idea that Cardassia could choose its own fate, one that was no longer driven solely by aggression, was not only his attempt at personal redemption, but also redemption for his entire civilization.
 
Indeed, Damar, Garak, Tain and Gul Dukat are all very strong characterizations:

Initially only introduced as a tertiary character and one that was little more than a background henchman for Dukat, the character of Damar eventually became the embodiment of the entire Cardassian people. As the ultimate archetype of a true patriot, he believed that everything done in the name of Cardassia was worth doing and he personally relished in the brutal excesses and military conquests of the State. But only near the end, when he realized what a terrible cost such an attitude inflicted, both on his people and to him personally, Damar became the catalyst for the Cardassians to openly rebel against the Dominion. In doing so, he helped his people break free from the centuries-long cycle of aggression that had finally brought their society to ruin. And much like the symbols of our own history who became martyrs in defense of a greater ideal, Damar’s death in defense of the idea that Cardassia could choose its own fate, one that was no longer driven solely by aggression, was not only his attempt at personal redemption, but also redemption for his entire civilization.
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If the Cardassians have nothing to do with the story they're telling, then they'll probably not be in it. Expect lots of Klingons instead.
Klingons have been done to death. Of course, they should be in Discovery, but I'd like to see Cardassians, Borg, Andorians, too. Would be nice to see the Denobulans further developed as well.
 
I'd always assumed contact with the Cardassians happened in the lost era between the TOS films and TNG. If they were to ever do a show in that time period I'd love it to revolve around the cardis.
 
Iloja of Prim was a Cardassian serialist poet who lived during the First Republic of the 23rd century. Jadzia Dax regarded Iloja of Prim as her favorite Cardassian author. One of her symbiont's previous hosts, Tobin Dax, met Iloja when he was in exile on Vulcan. He noted that Iloja had "quite a temper". (DS9: "Destiny")

Iloja of Prim's exact time period has not been established. He had to have been exiled sometime after 2226, when Lela Dax died and Tobin Dax was joined with the Dax symbiont, and before 2245 by which time Emony Dax carried the symbiont. As both were on Vulcan during this time period this indicates that both Trill and Cardassians were known to the Federation before 2245.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Iloja_of_Prim
Looking over Memory Alpha, it seems they got all their information on Lela Dax from a computer graphic. The novels have ignored all that. According to the graphic, Lela was born in 2112, while the Lela story in The Lives of Dax anthology takes place in the 2060s, with a Vulcan character telling her about the newly discovered human race. Likewise, Tobin is alive in the 22nd century, and both he and Iloja are characters in the current Enterprise novels.
 
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