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"No matter how much you try to retcon human involvment into the events that led to the demise of the borg, the simple fact is, humans were unable to contribute anything meaningful."
Restating your claims doesn't make them any more true. It just makes you look inflexible and closed-minded.
After 'Destiny', one can say with certainty that humanity is not able to handle many of the things that are to be found in the galaxy - and beyond.
Only if you treat
Destiny in isolation. Think of all the other galactic-level threats the Federation has handled without godlike intervention. They thrived for 220 years before encountering something too big for them to handle on their own.
O, the federation doesn't need help on an ongoing basis. But it DOES need help.
Which is true of any responsible, mature adult individual
or civilization. Needing occasional help is not evidence of immaturity, irresponsibility, or suicidal tendencies.
Tell me, is a 7 year old ready to be 'independent'? That's what the federation proved it is in 'Destiny'.
A 7 year old trying to be independed IS foolhardy and immature. It can handle games with the other kids nearby - not adult stuff.
See above. This would only be valid if
Destiny were the first major threat the UFP had ever faced. It isn't. A better analogy would be an adult who moved out on her own over 20 years ago, helped convince her neighbors to get along and work together, led them in organizing a prosperous, inclusive, fair community that's thrived in the interim, and now had that community devastated by a hurricane and in need of federal assistance to evacuate, feed, and protect the displaced citizens. That's not a helpless child who was wrong to assert her independence. On the contrary, that's a proven leader who can be trusted to be an asset in the wake of the disaster as she helps her community to rebuild, as the strength and cooperative spirit she imbued in that community enables it to rebound from the disaster and help other communities that were also devastated by it.
Only if they're objectively not ready to face life on their own.
But your standards for "not ready" are impossibly high. Nobody's ready for everything. You can be ready for any challenge that a human being can be reasonably expected to face, but that won't help you if your city is washed away by a tsunami or an asteroid falls from space.
Having the population decimated after only 300 years is not 'we generally manage'. It's 'we don't manage'.
Okay, you really need to invest in a dictionary.
After 'Destiny', when one knows with certainty that one can't handle everything out there, declining help from someone who could help you IS suicidal aka immature.
And if the Manraloth had been around during
Destiny, Picard wouldn't have declined their help. However, it might've been a devil's bargain to accept their help.
Again, you keep failing to recognize that seeking independence is not a guarantee that you will never face a danger beyond you. Yes, if you move out from your parents, there's always the chance your life may get screwed up so badly that you have to turn to them for financial aid or a place to live. But that doesn't mean it's wrong to
try to live on your own. No one can predict the future. No one can say with absolute certainty that they'll never face a crisis they can't handle without help. But that doesn't make it wrong or "suicidal" or "immature" to want to live on your own and make your own choices.
But screw it. I've said the same things to you a dozen times by now and you're not willing to listen. You think the way to win an argument is to be absolutely inflexible, restate the same dogma over and over, and refuse to give even a millisecond's thought to anyone else's points. And that's what's truly immature.
