Christopher said:
As for Janeway, all I can say is, I like her. Not so much the later Janeway of the Braga years, but the more nuanced, thoughtful, consistently written Janeway of the Piller/Taylor years. Plus, I like science officers, so I wanted to see Janeway as a science officer. This book was in the right time frame for that, so voila.
Janeway was the science officer and the first officer (mentioned upthread)? I have to say, this is one of the things I disliked about ENT, the insinuation (maybe not even intentionally) that the science officer is automatically the 1st officer. It probably wasn't even your intention to make comparisons to Spock in TOS, but I guess this is just a sensitive point for me. The ratio of instances where the First Officer is also the science officer to total instances where the First Officer isn't only the First Officer, is too high for my taste. I think the vastly greater percentage of First Officers (who didn't have that as a dedicated position) would most likely be Helmsmen, like in The Cage.
Sorry, nothing personal, just one of those things that gets me.
Christopher said:
Well, that's a matter of taste, and you can't please everyone. Personally, I'd like to see less violence in my fiction, and would be content to see it implied. I find it odd that so many people in our culture find violence more acceptable than the depiction of two people expressing affection and sharing pleasure. But that's just me.
On that, we have full agreement. I've known a number of very moral people, some of them pastors, even, who on the subject of uber-violent movies, have an attitude something like, "Yeah!

Blood and guts and gore!

YEAH! WOOHOO!" I really, really, don't understand that. I haven't done enough research into the psychological effects that intaking large amounts of violence in media has on people, so I couldn't confidently say that it's "evil" or not, but I certainly know that I find it quite distasteful, and highly unnecessary in most circumstances. And note that I'm not talking about a little light sprinkling of blood here and there; "16 Blocks" being a recent example that springs to mind; I can live with that. But other movies really just take it too far.
But since we're talking about books, I should point out that "too much violence" in books is quite a different thing. In that case, it's more about how much description is giving to the violent act or the suffering the person is undergoing. In Diane Carey's "The Great Starship Race," there's a scene where Romulans board a trading ship to capture some alien (I guess this will be minor SPOILERS, but it's nothing too integral to the plot), and someone sees them do it, so they decide to kill her so she can't tell. So they take her and instead of just shooting her and then hiding her in a closet, where she won't be found for days, they take her and lean her backwards over the oven and then unhook the microwave (or whatever's mounted over the oven), so that it'll fall and crush her skull. Now, first of all, the scene didn't make any sense. Like I said, if they had just shot her and stuffed her away, people would've known she was missing, but wouldn't have had reason to suspect her death. But instead, they clumsily fake her death by putting her in an unnatural position she wouldn't ever ordinarily be in, and then unfasten something so that it falls on her. This was immediately investigated and discovered to be non-accidental. So it was a weak plot point, IMHO, so that probably already rankled me about it, but the thing that really bothered me was that the author spent two or three whole pages describing what was running through this character's mind as the Romulans captured her, then held her over the stove, then the last moments before her skull is crushed in. It's not like this was a regular character, we only saw her once before. Why did there have to be so much time spent deeply describing her frustration, pain and eventual agony as she was being killed? If it had been a regular character (even just "regular" in that book), it would make more sense, since that's someone who we've come to know, and we'd probably want to read their last thoughts before their demise. But the last thoughts of a total stranger? Too much like a snuff film for me. That's really just not something I want to experience, especially when it's a weak plot point.
Sorry, I guess I had a lot of pent-up frustration.
Christopher, is that the kind of violence in books that you think can sometimes be too excessive, or am I totally off the mark?