The revised 1701 bridge needs more Leif Garrett and ABBA posters and feathered haircuts. Just sayin'.
The bridge shots (large images)
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I was WAITING for someone to comment on that.
Fell right into my bell-bottom disco trap!
Fell right into my bell-bottom disco trap!
Leif Garret?!Ewwwwww, eddie, that's sick.
Probably a bad time to mention who my teenage crush was, huh?I was WAITING for someone to comment on that.
Fell right into my bell-bottom disco trap!
Haven't read all 25 pages of this thread, but the new bridge looks like a hair salon in a mall to me. I hate it.
It looks like... liiiike...
The bridge of the Enterprise, but built in 2008.
Oh SNAP that's it!
The bridge of the Enterprise, but built in 2008.
Oh SNAP that's it!
I wouldn't worry too much about it, if I were you. You may safely assume that eddie is a TOS fan before all the rest and probably not the biggest fan of the new bridge look. After that, it's almost as safe to assume that he doesn't intend most of what he says outside of TNZ to be taken all too seriously (for all I know, the same might apply to what he says in TNZ, as well) and my response to him was made in like kind.
Leif Garrett?!
Probably a bad time to mention who my teenage crush was, huh?I was WAITING for someone to comment on that.
Fell right into my bell-bottom disco trap!
And most of those late-70s posters were pretty awful, anyway.
Looks like a return to the brightness of the TOS and TNG bridges as opposed to the moody darkness of Voyager and the Defiant.
Voyager was particularly bad. Every time they went to red alert, it got so dark I was convinced the crew were going to start tripping over each other.
Voyager was particularly bad. Every time they went to red alert, it got so dark I was convinced the crew were going to start tripping over each other.
My only problem with it is the brightness. I can live with the changes, but it's too bright.
I am hoping hard that since these are photos were released for publicity purposes--that they have been lightened to show detail. Releasing dark photos of the bridge might make the purists happy but would make for perhaps less than ideal fodder for the regular/casual fans.
Oh well, I can hope...........
I am hoping hard that since these are photos were released for publicity purposes--that they have been lightened to show detail. Releasing dark photos of the bridge might make the purists happy but would make for perhaps less than ideal fodder for the regular/casual fans.
Oh well, I can hope...........
I wouldn't worry too much about it, if I were you. You may safely assume that eddie is a TOS fan before all the rest and probably not the biggest fan of the new bridge look. After that, it's almost as safe to assume that he doesn't intend most of what he says outside of TNZ to be taken all too seriously (for all I know, the same might apply to what he says in TNZ, as well) and my response to him was made in like kind.
Probably a bad time to mention who my teenage crush was, huh?I was WAITING for someone to comment on that.
Fell right into my bell-bottom disco trap!
And most of those late-70s posters were pretty awful, anyway.
YEAH.
What M'Sharak said.
Actually I'm not totally upset about the new bridge design. I just think it looks too advanced and sleek for the 23rd century Starfleet timeline we've all grown up and become intimately familiar with.
What's funny here is that to me, it looks profoundly DATED. It represents "hi-tech" in the same way that the old "Flash Gordon" serials got their "high-tech" look by having exposed coils and vacuum tubes and so forth.
Central to anything being believable is that things are there for a purpose... besides "just to look cool." Plexiglass panels with huge inch-wide "circuit trace" patterns on them don't look "high-tech" at all... they look stupid. Or at least they do to anyone who realizes what circuit boards actually are (the traces are simply "printed wires," not anything mystical/magical/whatever).
And having lights shining INTO THE FACE OF THE OPERATOR may help the cinematographer to get the facial detail of the actors, but it certainly wouldn't be helpful in any way to anyone actually trying to work that way. Don't believe me? Go get a flashlight and set it on top of your monitor, shining into your face, and see how long you're able to use the computer before you throw the flashlight against the wall!
The "chevrons in the fabric" is, hopefully, something that nobody but the most hardcore geeks will ever notice... and in those cases, only because they're stop-framing their blue-ray version to check it out. If the general audience ever notices that, the best reaction you can expect from them is going to be "oh my God how incredibly geeky." I can't see any actual positive coming from that, and I'm really disappointed that it's turned out to be the case... PPC could have better spent the money which was used to create that special fabric on any of a million other things.
But ultimately this is all (literally) "set dressing" and, hopefully, isn't what anyone will be paying attention to. In "Generations," few people who weren't hardcore Trek fans noticed the 1701-D bridge redesign (which, when you think about it, was a huge waste of cash too, huh?). People care about whether or not the story is good. Which, in the case of Generations, it wasn't. They'd have been far better off developing a good movie and not wasting time and money rebuilding and relighting (or rather... "de-lighting?") the existing sets.
They could have used the TMP bridge set, unaltered, for TWOK, too... but few people who don't post on this website would ever have noticed that it wasn't the exact same set, would they?
The silly emphasis on changing set designs and costume designs is one of the things that Trek has been LAUGHED AT for, over the years. I fear that this (the "revised bridge" and so forth) will become another one of those things. You could easily have used the original bridge design, with "tweaks" (say, the entire "top-row display area" for each station as a single screen with various "windows" just like our computer screens have various windows... and with the "gumdrop" buttons replaced with more practical controls, and so forth).
Well, if this movie does OK at the theaters... there may be one more chance to see an updated and polished TOS design (instead of, as we see here, a new design that maybe has a few details vaguely similar to the TOS design).
Hopefully, Star Trek has entered into the same realm as Superman and Batman in the respect that one clunker of a movie doesn't necessarily kill the franchise.
If this one tanks, which I suspect it will, I think we'll get another shot in a few years, hopefully with a director who realizes that you have to take Star Trek at its own level and embrace its own reality, its own verisimilitude, and don't mess with that.
I say start talking to Richard Donner. And get Herman Zimmerman to be the production designer.
If this one tanks, which I suspect it will, I think we'll get another shot in a few years, hopefully with a director who realizes that you have to take Star Trek at its own level and embrace its own reality, its own verisimilitude, and don't mess with that.
I say start talking to Richard Donner. And get Herman Zimmerman to be the production designer.
How many have you, Sparky?
And that will fail, because if this movie totally bombs, I think that is it for a long while. This movie is as mainstream as Trek is going to get, and if it fails, then why do you think a film that is made more for fans like you would be more successful. It wouldn't.
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But I'm not going around declaring this movie to be a failure based on less than a dozen stills and a teaser trailer.
Do you honestly think that most people will care that the ramscoops are different or there's a window out of place?
Ramscoops? I don't even remember Scotty or Spock mentioning ramscoops.
The fact is, I do think people will care, and that's probably why things will look different in this movie than they did in TOS.
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Tos was overly bight except the bright lights seemed to come from nowhere giving it a surreal look - remember it's a vision of the future it doesn't really exist. no windows - viewing ports. It was aesthetically pleasing. The new bridge's lights can be seen blaring and that is a wet bar with Romulan ale on tap.
I suspect the main motivation behind the TWOK redesign was to move the science station to a location that was more conductive to the action... and to reupholster the chairs, which were undoubtedly covered in Caitian caca.
